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    TRUMP ALLOWING TOURIST VISAS FOR ELDERLY MEXICANS TO VISIT UNDOCUMENTED FAMILY IN US

    REPORT: TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ALLOWING TOURIST VISAS FOR ELDERLY MEXICANS TO VISIT UNDOCUMENTED FAMILY IN US

    4:16 PM 05/28/2019 | POLITICS
    Shelby Talcott | Contributor

    Since 2017, the U.S. government has been granting tourist visas to elderly Mexicans to visit their undocumented children currently residing in the United States, according to the Washington Post.

    The program, dubbed “Palomas Mensajeras Michoacan,” isn’t officially endorsed by the U.S. government, according to a statement given to WaPo. However, it has officials in Michoacan, Mexico, working with the U.S. State Department to reunite families with three-week-long visits to their families across the United States, WaPo reported.


    Some of the organizers of this program, such as Jose Luis Gutierrez, the secretary of migration in Michoacan, told WaPo that they have even met with the State Department before the program began in 2017 to talk about why the initiative is important.


    This is a contrast to the Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigration, with some of the people in the groups worrying it is a trick to catch their undocumented family members in the U.S.
    Romero Leon, who was granted a visa and used the program earlier in May to visit her three undocumented children and three grandchildren, two of whom are U.S. citizens, had this concern, WaPo reported. Twenty-one other elderly residents joined her on a flight to Chicago to visit their respective family members.

    “That’s what I’m worried about,” she said, according to WaPo. “Are they going to use this to arrest them?”


    President Donald Trump in particular has been hard on illegal immigration, proposing a border wall and implementing other measures to reduce the amount of illegal immigrants in the U.S.

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    Officials began having interview days at the U.S. embassy in Mexico City in 2018 for groups of elderly applicants, a State Department spokesperson told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

    “These Mexican senior citizens frequently travel in groups to the United States for a variety of reasons including tourism, cultural programs, and to visit friends and family such as U.S. citizen grandchildren,” the statement to TheDCNF said.


    The department has also begun to give 10-year, multiple-entry visas to Michoacanos who are 60 years and older that haven’t been in the U.S. illegally. No one from the program has overstayed their visa, with over 5,000 visitors having been sent to the U.S. over the past 30 months, according to Gutierrez, WaPo reported.


    “Group scheduling of visa applicants, including elderly visa applicants, is a standard practice at a number of U.S. embassies and consulates all over the world,” a State Department spokesperson told TheDCNF.


    Those who partake in the program are called “Palomas Mensajeras” (Messenger Pigeons), and the group is always made up of parents and grandparents living in Mexico who haven’t seen their children, currently living undocumented in the U.S., for many years, according to organizers.


    There are other places in Mexico that have started similar programs, such as “Heart of Silver” in Zacatecas and “Roots of Puebla” in Puebla, Mexico. Organizers tell those living in the U.S. not to meet their family at the airport, because they could get in trouble if they are asked for identification.


    Because of this, those visiting from Mexico put down the names of family members who are legally residing in the U.S. when asked who they are visiting, WaPo reported.


    Many of these undocumented immigrants left family members behind in Mexico and haven’t been able to see them because they lack the papers necessary to travel safely between the U.S. and Mexico.


    As of 2016, there were an estimated 5.4 million undocumented Mexicans in the U.S. with roughly 80% having lived in the U.S. for more than 10 years, according to Pew Research Center.

    Mexicans make up about half of the 10.7 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., the Pew Research Center found.


    A State Department spokesperson told TheDCNF that “the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City does not endorse any specific migrant club or organization that assists elderly applicants through the visa application process” but did not comment on whether they have direct knowledge of groups like Palomas Mensajeras Michoacan.

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    NO...KEEP THEM OUT!

    SEND THEIR ILLEGAL ALIEN FAMILIES BACK!

    OVER 60 YEARS OLD...AND I DO NOT WANT TO PAY THEIR MEDICAL BILLS!

    STOP REWARDING THESE CRIMINAL TRESPASSERS!
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    Wow, you've got to be kidding me! Just another encouragement for illegals to stay put here in the United States.

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    Federal visa and visa waiver laws apply to this. This has absolutely nothing to do with who is President.
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    Coming here to visit their ILLEGAL FAMILIES who should be reported to I.C.E. and deported and OUR government has a program to assist them to see these criminal trespassing lawbreakers!!!

    Our government is our own worst enemy!

    How much money did these ILLEGAL FAMILIES bilk the U.S. taxpayer out of with their stolen identities, welfare, food stamps, medical care, school and anchor baby birth? They need to pay it back and get out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Federal visa and visa waiver laws apply to this. This has absolutely nothing to do with who is President.


    It absolutely does!!! The Trump administration can immediately and lawfully cease issuing waivers. The federal government is under no obligation and there is no law that requires us to allow visitors into this country for the purpose of visiting their family members here illegally.

    If you think otherwise, prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post



    It absolutely does!!! The Trump administration can immediately and lawfully cease issuing waivers. The federal government is under no obligation and there is no law that requires us to allow visitors into this country for the purpose of visiting their family members here illegally.

    If you think otherwise, prove it.


    The visas aren't issued on that basis. The US government has no "program" for such a thing and the State Department has said so in the article. There's some crazy group out there trying to encourage people to visit the US from Mexico.
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    "However, it has officials in Michoacan, Mexico, working with the U.S. State Department to reunite families with three-week-long visits to their families across the United States, WaPo reported."

    SHUT THIS DOWN!

    NO VISITS TO ILLEGAL ALIENS IN OUR COUNTRY!

    SEND IN ICE TO THOSE FAMILIES AND DEPORT THEM ALL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post



    It absolutely does!!! The Trump administration can immediately and lawfully cease issuing waivers. The federal government is under no obligation and there is no law that requires us to allow visitors into this country for the purpose of visiting their family members here illegally.

    If you think otherwise, prove it.


    A waiver of what? They don't need a "waiver" to come here for 3 weeks. The standard tourist visa is 30 days.
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