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09-01-2018, 01:35 PM
Jean

Trump Blasts Newsom’s Universal Healthcare Plan for Illegals: What Happens if Whole W

Trump Blasts Newsom’s Universal Healthcare Plan for Illegals: What Happens if Whole World Goes to CA?

August 31, 2018
Tony Lee
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President Donald Trump on Friday blasted California Lieutenant Governor and gubernatorial candidate Gavin Newsom for supporting universal health care for illegal immigrants, asking, “What happens if the whole world decides to go to California?”

Speaking at a North Carolina event, Trump said Newsom wants “health care for everyone. He wants everything for everyone. He wants to open up the borders. He wants to take care of everyone.”

“And I was just saying, what happens if the whole world decides to go to California?” Trump continued.

Trump said Newsom’s plan means “they’re going to take care of the whole world.”

“Where do you stop?” Trump asked. “You’re going to take care of a lot of people, but they’re not going to be able to do it for very long because it’s not going to work.”

Earlier this week, Newsom said he would like to extend San Francisco’s universal healthcare plan for illegal immigrants that he ushered in when he was mayor to the rest of the state.

“I did universal health care when I was mayor. Fully implemented, regardless of pre-existing conditions, ability to pay, and regardless of your immigration status,” Newsom said. “San Francisco is the only universal health care plan for all undocumented residents in America. Very proud of that. We proved it could be done without bankrupting the city. I’d like to see that extended to the rest of the state.”

Newsom also claimed on Twitter that offering universal health care to illegal immigrants is “the economically smart thing to do.”

“If we don’t offer coverage to everyone – regardless of income or immigration status – we will still carry the expense,” Newson said. “Universal access isn’t just the right thing to do – it’s the economically smart thing to do.”

(video within tweet)
Gavin Newsom
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@GavinNewsom
What the @GOP is too scared to admit:
If we don’t offer coverage to everyone - regardless of income or immigration status - we will still carry the expense.
Universal access isn’t just the right thing to do - it’s the economically smart thing to do.
8:57 AM - Aug 29, 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/california...ld-goes-to-ca/
09-01-2018, 01:40 PM
Judy

He's an idiot.
09-01-2018, 01:43 PM
stoptheinvaders

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Originally Posted by Jean

Trump Blasts Newsom’s Universal Healthcare Plan for Illegals: What Happens if Whole World Goes to CA?

My question to Trump

What Happens if/when Whole World comes to the United States of America?

oh, and by the way, they have Universal Health Care nation wide under your watch.
09-01-2018, 01:51 PM
Beezer

President Trump...when are YOU going to stop the whole world coming across our Southern border!

SIGN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER NOW!

SLAM THAT BORDER SHUT AND DEPORT THEM BACK OVER THE 1ST BORDER THEY ILLEGALLY CROSSED

NO ASYLUM AT PORTS OF ENTRY!
09-01-2018, 02:43 PM
Judy

The DemoQuack is calling for universal health care for illegal aliens, why bash Trump for that?!! Geez. Bash the gawd damn DemoQuacks behind this whole travesty of illegal immigration for the past 40 years and:

VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2018!!!
09-01-2018, 02:50 PM
Beezer

These illegal aliens are already getting FREE healthcare!

Mandatory e-verify...get them OFF our healthcare and OUT of our country!
09-01-2018, 03:31 PM
Judy

Round 'em up and deport them, authorize all 800,000 state and local law enforcement officers to arrest, detain and assist in the deportation and removal of any and all illegal aliens in their state or community. Implement Judy's Plan B, tell these countries if their citizens don't stop entering our country illegally, then your country will have no aid from or trade with the United States. These are cheap means to solve this problem, Judy's Plan B costs nothing, using state and local law enforcement officers to enforce US immigration law who are willing costs nothing, they are already paid by their community, county or state to protect their citizens from foreign illegal invaders.

WAKE UP!!

BRING THE HAMMER DOWN ON ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THE HOME COUNTRIES WHO BENEFIT, NOT AMERICANS!!

Plus Trump can do this through a simple Executive Order authorizing the states and locals to enforce if they want to (not force them) reassuring them they will not be targeted by the US DOJ or any other agency for lawsuits if they choose to and making the calls to the countries advising them if they do not stop, then no aid or trade with the US. This stops the flow in and allows ICE to focus on those few areas who will not want to participate in immigration enforcement.

If Congress wants to whine, if the Courts want to try to stop it, well, good luck with that, because both decisions are totally within the existing Authority of the President of the United States.
09-01-2018, 04:30 PM
stoptheinvaders

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Originally Posted by Judy

The DemoQuack is calling for universal health care for illegal aliens, why bash Trump for that?!! Geez. Bash the gawd damn DemoQuacks behind this whole travesty of illegal immigration for the past 40 years and:

In no way I am defending the D's just pointing out that Trump is allowing nation wide the same thing he is bashing a D for doing in California.
09-01-2018, 04:31 PM
jtdc

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Originally Posted by Judy

The DemoQuack is calling for universal health care for illegal aliens, why bash Trump for that?!! Geez. Bash the gawd damn DemoQuacks behind this whole travesty of illegal immigration for the past 40 years

Because, Newsom can only offer coverage to illegal aliens who are here. President Trump has the power, with an EO, to stop them from getting here! CLOSE THE BORDER NOW!
09-01-2018, 04:37 PM
jtdc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judy

Round 'em up and deport them, authorize all 800,000 state and local law enforcement officers to arrest, detain and assist in the deportation and removal of any and all illegal aliens in their state or community. Implement Judy's Plan B, tell these countries if their citizens don't stop entering our country illegally, then your country will have no aid from or trade with the United States. These are cheap means to solve this problem, Judy's Plan B costs nothing, using state and local law enforcement officers to enforce US immigration law who are willing costs nothing, they are already paid by their community, county or state to protect their citizens from foreign illegal invaders.

https://www.alipac.us/images/icons/icon14.png

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Originally Posted by Judy

Plus Trump can do this through a simple Executive Order authorizing the states and locals to enforce if they want to (not force them) reassuring them they will not be targeted by the US DOJ or any other agency for lawsuits if they choose to and making the calls to the countries advising them if they do not stop, then no aid or trade with the US. This stops the flow in and allows ICE to focus on those few areas who will not want to participate in immigration enforcement.

If Congress wants to whine, if the Courts want to try to stop it, well, good luck with that, because both decisions are totally within the existing Authority of the President of the United States.

Right! And he can also, by EO, order troops to the border to close it now!https://www.alipac.us/images/icons/icon14.png
09-01-2018, 04:51 PM
Judy

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Originally Posted by jtdc

Because, Newsom can only offer coverage to illegal aliens who are here. President Trump has the power, with an EO, to stop them from getting here! CLOSE THE BORDER NOW!

What EO would that be?
09-01-2018, 06:08 PM
jtdc

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Originally Posted by Judy

What EO would that be?

From all I have read, the President can order our military to guard/close the border by EO. Since they would be under authority of the President, and not "deputies" of any state or local authority, and enforcing federal laws, not local laws, Posse Comitatus does not apply. Our military is better equipped to defend our borders than the National Guard.
09-01-2018, 06:15 PM
Judy

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtdc

From all I have read, the President can order our military to guard/close the border by EO. Since they would be under authority of the President, and not "deputies" of any state or local authority, and enforcing federal laws, not local laws, Posse Comitatus does not apply. Our military is better equipped to defend our borders than the National Guard.

There's two issues, the new ones coming in and the ones already here. State and locals deal with the ones already here. Judy's Plan B, Military, National Guard, "close the border now", all deal with new ones coming in. It's not an either or, it's both to deal with both problems.
09-01-2018, 06:16 PM
stoptheinvaders

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Originally Posted by jtdc

From all I have read, the President can order our military to guard/close the border by EO. Since they would be under authority of the President, and not "deputies" of any state or local authority, and enforcing federal laws, not local laws, Posse Comitatus does not apply. Our military is better equipped to defend our borders than the National Guard.

Agree, and I think the excuse that the Posse Comitatus Act applies is a leftist and those who want open borders excuse.

The Posse Comitatus Act does not prohibit US Military on our borders.

US Military is allowed as authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress This is from Carlton Meyer’s new book: The Spectrum of Future Warfare.
http://www.g2mil.com/border.htm

Myth #1 The US Constitution prohibits posting US troops on the border.The US Constitution says no such thing. In fact, Article IV states: Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence. So the US Constitution clearly requires the federal government to protect states from invasion. Almost a million aliens illegally pouring across the border into states each year is clearly an invasion.

Myth #2 The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits US troops from guarding US borders.
This 1878 act was enacted to prevent Union troops from continuing to enforce federal laws in the defeated South after the American Civil war. Here is the text as modified by Congress in recent years:

Sec. 1385. – Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatusWhoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Guarding US borders from foreign invasion is not “law enforcement.” The US Army exists to defend the US from foreign invasion, which is expressly authorized by the US Constitution. Guarding the Mexican border was the Army’s primary peacetime mission until 1940, and no one ever declared this was in violation of this 1878 act. The US Border Patrol wasn’t even formed until 1924, so claiming the intent of this law was to prevent US Army troops from guarding the border is absurd. The map at left shows US Army forts in Texas in the late 1880s when the entire US Army had fewer than 40,000 soldiers; it has 500,000 today. Clearly, defending the US border was a primary mission of the US Army for decades after this act was passed.Some may argue that Chapter 18, Section 375 of Title 10 US Code prevents military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement. However, defending US borders from foreign invaders is not law enforcement, it’s the basic purpose of the US military. While defending these United States from invasion, civilian law enforcement may be called upon to assist the US military. Does anyone believe the Border Patrol must operate fighter aircraft because the US Air Force can’t intercept aircraft crossing into the US because that’s “law enforcement”? When you read about proposals in Congress to put US troops on the border, those are not proposals to allow US troops on the border, but proposals to force the President to put troops back on the border. However, recent Presidents have listened to their corporate advisors and their slogans and ignored the threat of unsecured US borders.

Myth #3 The National Guard should guard the border, not active duty troops.
The National Guard is an organized militia to deal with state and national emergencies. Guarding the US border is a full-time mission that the federal government is required to perform by Article IV, Section 4 of the US Constitution. The few states along the border shouldn’t be expected to defend the entire country from invasion. This myth is also spread by imperial minded Generals who prefer to rule an empire overseas than to defend their own citizens. Whenever citizens demand the Army protect their nation, Generals dodge this issue by stating that it may be a mission for the National Guard, so as not to waste resources of the US Army. This is absurd; the primary mission of the US Army is to protect US citizens, and the US Constitution requires the federal government to protect states from invasion. If there is a major war and the Army would like to deploy its border troops overseas, then National Guard troops from any state can be mobilized to guard the border until the war ends.

Myth #4 The US Army hasn’t the resources for border troops. The active duty army has 500,000 full-time troops supported by over 300,000 civilians. The Border Patrol has 9700 agents. Certainly, the Army can form a infantry division of 10,000 troops to actually defend the USA, or Congress can authorize more troops. This G2mil article: Cut Surplus Army Units identifies more than 10,000 unneeded positions in the US Army that can be cut to form an infantry division. There are several US military bases along the border that can host an infantry battalion for border security: NAS Whidbey Island, WA; Minot AFB, SD; Selfridge ARNG base, MI; Fort Drum, NY; Laughlin AFB, TX; Fort Bliss, TX; Fort Huachuca, AZ, Yuma Proving Grounds, AZ; and NAS El Centro, CA; plus several military facilities in the San Diego area. Some Army officers may express concern that border duty will hurt readiness for Army missions overseas. They don’t understand that defending the USA is their primary mission!

Myth #5 Soldiers aren’t trained for such missions Soldiers are ideally trained to guard remote areas of the border. All they need are a few days of orientation training and to learn some Spanish or French phrases they can shout into a bullhorn: “Stop, you cannot enter the United States here, go back!” They will not process arrestees, fill out paperwork, search houses, run checkpoints, appear in court, or conduct investigations. They will just confront people who they directly view invading the USA. They will insist that foreign intruders turn back or face arrest by the Border Patrol. This will prevent odd incidents like in 1997 when a marine on drug war duty near the border shot a local goat herder who had fired in his direction. Some suspect this young man was paid by drug dealers to provoke an incident in hopes of getting the marines removed. He succeeded, but didn’t expect to die. The marines were there because the President had authorized their use after Army Generals refused. The Marine shooter was there on temporary duty and did not view the goat herder entering the USA illegally. The establishment of orientation training and strict rules of engagement can ensure that US troops have no contact with US citizens.

Myth #6 Illegal immigration cannot be stopped Of course it can. There is no illegal immigration from North to South Korea because that border is heavily guarded. Perhaps some of the 20,000 US troops there can transfer to the US border. Guarding the border will not stop the hundreds of thousands of visitors who overstay their visas in the USA, but at least they were checked and inspected prior to arrival. The Border Patrol estimates that 700,000 unknown persons slipped past them last year, cutting that to 7000 a year is not unrealistic. Some claim that illegals will just find another way to cross. However, most illegals cannot obtain a visa or shopping pass because they haven’t an address and job.

http://www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.c...r-borders.html