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Trump's deportation idea similar to 1930s' mass removals

By RUSSELL CONTRERAS 3 hours ago

This 1932 photo from the Los Angeles Herald Examiner Collection of the Los Angeles Public Library shows hundreds of Mexicans at a Los Angeles train station awaiting deportation to Mexico. During the Great Depression, counties and cities in the American Southwest and Midwest forced Mexican immigrants and their families to leave the U.S. over concerns they were taking jobs away from whites despite their legal right to stay. (Los Angeles Herald Examiner Collection/Los Angeles Public Library via AP)

ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's call for the mass deportation of millions of immigrants living in the U.S. illegally as well as their American-born children bears similarities to a large-scale removal that many Mexican-American families faced 85 years ago.

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During the 1930s Great Depression, counties and cities in the American Southwest and Midwest forced Mexican immigrants and their families to leave the U.S. over concerns they were taking jobs away from whites despite their legal right to stay.

The result: Around 500,000 to 1 million Mexican immigrants and Mexican-Americans were pushed out of United States during the so-called 1930s' repatriation.

At that time, immigrants were rounded up and sent to Mexico, sometimes in public places and often without formal proceedings.

Others, scared by the violence, left voluntarily.

About 60 percent of those who left were American citizens, according to various studies on the 1930s' repatriation. Later testimonies show families lost most of their possessions and some family members died trying to return. Neighborhoods in cities such as Houston, San Antonio and Los Angeles became empty.

The impact of the experience on Latinos remains evident today, experts and advocates say.

"It set the tone for later deportations," said Francisco Balderrama, a Chicano studies professor at California State University, Los Angeles.

Two weeks ago, Trump said that, if elected president, he would expand deportations and end "birthright citizenship" for children born to immigrants who are in the Unites States illegally. Under his plan, American-born children of immigrants also would be deported with their parents, and Mexico would be asked to help build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

"They're illegal," Trump said of U.S.-born children of people living in the country illegally. "You either have a country or not."

Polls now show negative impressions of Trump among Latinos. A Gallup poll released Aug. 24 found that Hispanics were more likely to give Trump unfavorable ratings than favorable ones by 51 percentage points.

Some immigrant advocates pointed to the removal of prominent Latino journalist Jorge Ramos from an Iowa press conference last week as a metaphor for the candidate's desire to remove Latinos from the United States.

"Mr. Trump should heed the following warning: Our Latino and immigrant communities are not going to forget the way he has treated them," the Washington, D.C.-based Fair Immigration Reform Movement said in a statement.

Ramos, an anchor for Univision, was escorted out by a Trump aide after Ramos tried to question Trump about his immigration plan.

Trump interrupted Ramos, saying he hadn't been called on and ultimately told Ramos, "Go back to Univision."

Ramos was saying, "You cannot deport 11 million people," as he was escorted away. He was later allowed to return.

Trump has provided few details on how his proposed deportation effort would be carried out. The conservative-leaning American Action Forum concluded in a report it would cost between $400 billion to $600 billion and take 20 years to remove an estimated 11.2 million immigrants living in the country illegally.

The large-scale deportation Trump envisions would be impractical to enact, due to the extent to which Mexican immigrants have integrated into U.S. society, said Columbia University history professor Mae Ngai.

U.S.-born children of immigrants have been automatically considered American citizens since the adoption of the Constitution's 14th Amendment in 1868. A Supreme Court ruling in 1898 halted previous attempts to limit the birthright of Chinese-American citizens after the passage of the Chinese Exclusion Act.

The ruling upheld the clause for all U.S.-born children, Ngai said, and there have been no successful challenges to the clause since.

In the 1930s, Balderrama said, officials skirted the issue of birthright citizenship by saying they did not want to break up families.

"But they did break up families and many children never saw their parents again," said Balderrama, co-author of a book about the 1930s' repatriation.

http://news.yahoo.com/trumps-deporta...124816801.html

And what's your point with this article? That foreign nationals can invade our country and not be deported because it might break up their families?

That's the risk they take coming here illegally. They all know that. They don't care. They don't care about their families. They care about money and drug running more. These aren't normal people. These are crazy people who sneak into a foreign country for money, send their children on long unsafe journeys, and have no cause or purpose to be here except to steal jobs from Americans, run drugs for the cartels, and rob benefits from our government.

If you deport the whole family the family doesn't get broken up.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

If you deport the whole family the family doesn't get broken up.

Exactly, which is why families should be deported intact, no child left behind, regardless of what citizenship rights their parents think the children have here, because they are already citizens of the country of their parents.

http://www.alipac.us/f12/l-ca-deport...1944-a-251562/

This member of the National Association of Hispanic Journalist, supposed reporter, RUSSELL CONTRERAS , like Jorge (Hore -Hey) Ramos, is an open borders activist that in my opinion uses the bully pulpit of the Associated Press to promote an agenda.

Illegal aliens form Mexico have no business here and they have been chucked back across border on several occasions for the same reasons. It seems that with the help of globalist politicians, they have been allowed to remain longer over the past few decades and embed themselves through thir children.

A little bit more on Russell Contreras the new President of a group that seems to view "diversity" not as a blending of all races and ethnicities but a tool to promote "people of color" . This group appears to be mired in racism and sexism to me.

UNITY: Journalists For Diversity Elect New President

DECEMBER 14, 2014
BY TRACIE POWELL

Russell Contreras covers the American Southwest for the Associated Press.

Russell Contreras, a reporter for the Associated Press who covers the American Southwest, was elected president of the troubled UNITY: Journalists For Diversity on Sunday.

Contreras, who will assume office in January, will have his hands full trying to repair damaged relations with former association partners representing black and Hispanic journalists.

“Our opponents are those who don’t support diversity, not each other,” Contreras told All Digitocracy by phone. “UNITY is no longer in competition with any other group advocating for journalists of color. Whatever UNITY is will be in addition to what those other groups do. They can continue to exist under their sovereign missions and not worry about another group like UNITY coming along and fighting for sponsor dollars.”

The association, which formerly represented a unified quadrennial gathering for journalists of color, has been beset with infighting for years. The National Association of Black Journalists left the group in 2011 following disputes over governance and loss of direction. Less than two years later the National Association of Hispanic Journalists followed suit citing similar reasons.

Months earlier UNITY’s board of directors voted to change its name, dropping the “of color,” and elected David Steinberg to preside over the organization as president, which caused further consternation since Steinberg is both white and male. Steinberg, who Contreras will replace, did not seek re-election.

Last month UNITY announced that it would no longer host conventions, but would focus on offering programming instead. The organization also announced that its executive director, Roberto Quinones, who had only been on the job for six months, would be leaving.

Meanwhile, newsroom diversity is on the decline.

Contreras is a life-time member of the National Association of Hispanic Journalists who ran, unsuccessfully,for president of that organization in 2012. He is also a member of the Native American Journalists Association and NABJ. It’s unclear whether his roles with the other associations, and his appointment as UNITY president, will bring NAHJ and NABJ back to the UNITY camp.

“The same things that forced NABJ to leave UNITY in the first place have not been resolved and I don’t know that having Russell as president will change anything,” NABJ president Bob Butler said Sunday evening.

NAHJ president Mekahlo Medina sent best wishes to Contreras but said he doesn’t see his organization returning to the UNITY table. “I wish Russell good luck in trying to figure out what this organization is, but the issues that NAHJ had are still there and I don’t see that changing,” he said.

While UNITY will not host a convention in 2016, NABJ and NAHJ will hold a joint gathering. Contreras said that while there will be no UNITY convention in two years, his plans include producing regional programming events that focus on poverty and/or immigration, perhaps in partnership with other journalism associations.

His first order of business, however, is to shape a strategic plan with both long-term and short-term goals. “UNITY needs to re-position its mission and come up with new revenue sources,” Contreras said. “Raising money through conventions is outdated. …We need to be issue driven.”

This story was updated on Monday, Dec. 15, 2014 with a quote from NAHJ president Mekahlo Medina.

http://alldigitocracy.org/unity-jour...new-president/

Donald Trump's immigration plan was tried in the 1930s, and the results were disastrous


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's call for the mass deportation of millions of immigrants living in the US illegally, as well as their American-born children, bears similarities to a large-scale removal that many

Mexican-American families faced 85 years ago.

During the Great Depression, counties and cities in the American Southwest and Midwest forced Mexican immigrants and their families to leave the US over concerns they were taking jobs away from whites,

despite their legal right to stay.

The result: Around 500,000 to 1 million Mexican immigrants and Mexican-Americans were pushed out of the country during the 1930s repatriation, as the removal is sometimes called.

During that time, immigrants were rounded up and sent to Mexico, sometimes in public places and often without formal proceedings. Others, scared under the threat of violence, left voluntarily.

About 60% of those who left were American citizens, according to various studies on the 1930s repatriation. Later testimonies show families lost most of their possessions, and some family members died trying to return.

Neighborhoods in cities such as Houston, San Antonio, and Los Angeles became empty.

The impact of the experience on Latinos remains evident today, experts and advocates say.

"It set the tone for later deportations," said Francisco Balderrama, a Chicano studies professor at California State University at Los Angeles.

Two weeks ago, Trump said that, if elected president, he would expand deportations and end "birthright citizenship" for children born to immigrants who are here illegally.

Under his plan, American-born children of immigrants also would be deported with their parents, and Mexico would be asked to help build a wall along the US-Mexico border.

"They're illegal," Trump said of US-born children of people living in the country illegally. "You either have a country or not."

Amid his comments on immigration, polls show negative impressions of Trump among Latinos. A Gallup poll released August 24 found that Hispanics were more likely to give Trump unfavorable ratings than favorable

ones by 51 percentage points.

Some immigrant advocates pointed to the removal of prominent Latino journalist Jorge Ramos from an Iowa press conference last week as a metaphor for the candidate's desire to remove Latinos from the US.

"Mr. Trump should heed the following warning: Our Latino and immigrant communities are not going to forget the way he has treated them," the Washington, D.C.-based Fair Immigration Reform Movement said in a statement.

Ramos, an anchor for Univision, was escorted out by a Trump aide after Ramos, who had criticized Trump previously, tried to question Trump about his immigration plan. Trump interrupted Ramos, saying he hadn't been called on, and ultimately told Ramos, "Go back to Univision."

Ramos was saying, "You cannot deport 11 million people," as he was escorted away. He was later allowed to return.

Trump has provided few details on how his proposed deportation effort would be carried out.

The conservative-leaning American Action Forum concluded in a report it would cost between $400 billion and $600 billion and take 20 years to remove an estimated 11.2 million immigrants living in the country illegally.

The large-scale deportation he envisions would be impractical to enact, due to the extent to which Mexican immigrants have integrated into US society, said Columbia University history professor Mae Ngai.

US-born children of immigrants have been automatically considered American citizens since the adoption of the Constitution's 14th Amendment in 1868. A Supreme Court ruling in 1898 halted previous attempts to limit the birthright of

Chinese-American citizens after the passage of the Chinese Exclusion Act.

The ruling upheld the clause for all US-born children, Ngai said, and there have been no successful challenges to the clause since.

In the 1930s, Balderrama said, officials skirted the issue of birthright citizenship by saying they did not want to break up families.

"But they did break up families, and many children never saw their parents again," said Balderrama, coauthor of a book about Mexican repatriation in the 1930s with the late historian Raymond Rodriguez,

who testified before a California state committee about seeing his father for the last time at age 10, before the father left for Mexico.

That legacy lingers in songs, often played on Spanish-language radio stations, that allude to mass deportations and separation of loved ones, said Lilia Soto, an American studies professor at the University of Wyoming.

For example, the lyrics to "Ice El Hielo," by the Los Angeles band La Santa Cecilia, speak of a community afraid that federal agents would arrive and launch deportations raids at any moment.

The ballad "Volver, Volver," sung by Mexican ranchera performer Vicente "Chente" Fernandez, speaks of someone vowing to return to a lover despite all obstacles.

"They're about families being apart," Soto said. "The lyrics are all indirectly linked to this past."

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