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    Police avoid actively seeking out illegals

    Police avoid actively seeking out illegals
    Andrew Edwards, Staff Writer
    Article Launched: 05/11/2008 11:44:26 PM PDT


    Representatives of multiple Inland Empire law-enforcement agencies said they do not seek out illegal immigrants while patrolling the streets and investigating other offenses.
    "That's a big federal issue. It's definitely not a local issue," San Bernardino police Lt. Brian Boom said.

    Immigration policies are often at the center of intense debates, and the issue has risen to prominence lately in Los Angeles because of a proposal called "Jamiel's Law."

    The proposed law is named after Jamiel Shaw Jr. of Los Angeles, who was shot to death in March.


    The Daily News of Los Angeles has reported that police have arrested a suspected gang member in connection with Shaw's death. Police say he was brought into the United States illegally as a boy.

    The suspect was released from jail one day before Shaw's killing.

    Jamiel's Law would mandate Los Angeles police to cooperate with the federal government to find and deport gang members who are illegal immigrants.

    Jamiel's Law proponent Walter Moore could not be reached for comment for this article. His Web site promotes the idea as a way to deport illegal-immigrant gang members before they commit crimes.

    Local police said their departments can contact U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement when officers come across a suspect who might be an illegal immigrant.

    But as in Los Angeles, police in San Bernardino and other local cities said their departments do not pursue


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    illegal immigrants based only on their immigration status.
    Redlands police Capt. Tom Fitzmaurice said his officers can contact ICE if they come across someone who might be an illegal immigrant, but that does not happen frequently.

    Fitzmaurice, like Boom, said enforcing immigration laws is the responsibility of federal authorities, not police.

    A suspect's immigration status can become relevant after the person is in custody.

    Ontario police Detective Jeff Crittenden said officers can alert federal authorities when a suspected illegal immigrant is believed to have committed a crime.

    "They don't just go out and stop someone and find out if they're an illegal immigrant," Crittenden said.

    Pomona police Sgt. Mike Olivieri said officers contact ICE if they learn that a suspect has been previously deported or is eligible for deportation.

    Pomona officers do not otherwise enforce federal immigration law, Olivieri said.

    In San Bernardino County, jailers at West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga interview some inmates to determine if they are subject to deportation proceedings. That policy is set to be expanded to other county jails.

    Upland police Sgt. Cliff Matthews and San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Jodi Miller both said their departments don't want to frighten illegal immigrants from reporting crimes by having police and deputies inquire into people's immigration status.

    "It's our rule to investigate all types of crimes, and we want people of all types of immigration status to speak with us," Matthews said.

    "If we can solve a murder because someone with questionable immigration status can talk to us, so much the better."

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    La desperately needs someone like Walter Moore who will step up and clean the city .
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    I think we need to look into the constituionality of sanctuary city policies. After all we, the people, pay taxes to police departments and have a right to protection from proven dangers. Also, with other acts of Congress that are designed to protect battered and abused individuals tying the hands of the police departments is a potential conflict of interest.

    There are probably a lot of constitutional arguments that could turn back these sanctuary laws. It took the US Congress a great deal of time and effort to draft the Immigration Acts that are controlling law in this issue, and we had to pay for all of that. We should have a right to the full perceived value of that investment.
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    And people still wonder how it is that an illegal invader who has multiple priors and who finally kills and American Citizen was never deported when the authorities had the chance to do so.

    Police agencies who look the other way under the pretense "it's a federal issue" are directly responsible for any American citizen who is injured or killed by an illegal who was in prior police custody and could have been deported.
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    They do it so they are not RACECIAL profiling.
    We are the ones who are RACIEST remember because we dont want ILLEGALS invading our country.
    But, yet if we went to their country ( in which I have NO desire to go to mexico) They would watch us, and be on our heels. We have to also have identification, to prove who we are. They dont want AMERICANS in THEIR COUNTRY. Especially ILLEGAL AMERICANS.
    Proud to be an AMERICAN

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    Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

    * Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
    * Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
    * Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;

    has committed a federal crime.

    Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.
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    * United States Code
    o TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
    + CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
    # SUBCHAPTER II - IMMIGRATION
    * PART VIII - GENERAL PENALTY PROVISIONS

    U.S. Code as of: 01/03/05
    Section 1325. Improper entry by alien

    (a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
    misrepresentation and concealment of facts
    Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
    at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
    officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
    officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
    States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
    willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
    commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
    imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
    commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
    imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
    (b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
    Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
    enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
    designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
    penalty of -
    (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
    attempted entry); or
    (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
    an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
    this subsection.

    Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
    in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
    imposed.
    (c) Marriage fraud
    Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
    purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
    imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
    $250,000, or both.
    (d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
    Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
    for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
    shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
    with title 18, or both.

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