US high-tech companies lobbying Congress for more H1Bs

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US high-tech companies lobbying Congress for immigration changes

http://www.workpermit.com/news/2006_12_ ... ngress.htm

27 December 2006

Advanced technology industrial interests in the United States are lobbying members of Congress to change immigration policies toward highly skilled immigrants.

Some recent studies are being used to support the case that U.S. high-tech industries are suffering as they compete against other countries in the technology boom these past several years. These interests assert that restrictions on the number of H-1B workers available each year is hurting U.S. companies.

High-tech companies are touting these studies to show contributions made by educated immigrants, and they want updated immigration laws to expand the number of immigrants allowed into the country each year.

Present U.S. immigration law restricts H-1B visas to 60,000 available per year, down from 195,000 per year in 2004 and 215,000 prior to that. An additional 6,000 are available, but are reserved by special treaties with specific countries. 20,000 more H1-B's are exempted each year outside the 60,000 cap for advanced degrees, such as PhD's.

In an immigration reform bill passed by the U.S. Senate in May, it was proposed that the cap be raised to 115,000. Due to political disagreements that were not resolved, the U.S. House and the Senate did not pursue negotiations on their different immigration reform bills to craft a law for 2006.

Just last week, the 110th U.S. Congress, now under a thin majority control of the liberal-leaning Democratic Party, has begun bi-partisan negotiation to create new bills. The Senate version is currently estimated to be ready for a vote in April or May of 2007, followed later in the year by a House version. Addressing changes in the H-1B program is one of many expected items in these bills.

Industry studies, such as a study by the National Venture Capital Association, conclude that immigrants were involved in almost 20% of venture-capital, public companies in the last 15 years. These are companies that started high-technology businesses and employed thousands of American workers. These companies raised over $500 billion dollars in capital since 1990.

About 40% of public high-tech companies, with Intel, Google, Yahoo, E-Bay, and Sun Microsystems included on that list, had at least one foreign-born person as a least one of the founders. In the computer and software field, foreign-born entrepreneurs are behind almost half of venture capital start up companies. The bottom line is that a very significant portion of the innovation that has kept the U.S. in the forefront of technology comes from immigrants.

For decades, "Silicon Valley" industries in California attracted the best engineers and computer programmers from around the world. Companies now say that they cannot find enough U.S.-born engineers and computer experts to fill job openings.


Solutions

U.S. Senate immigration bill that proposed to increase the quotas would have helped the backlog of jobs that companies claim are going unfilled.

Some proposed solutions would to lift the caps on certain types of high-tech jobs and also allow qualified foreign students (approximately 600,000) to remain in the U.S. and fill high-tech jobs after they graduate from school. Scotland in the United Kingdom has a similar program for graduates of its universities. It is seen as so successful that the UK government is currently crafting a program for all of Britain.

Canada is another country that is considering similar measures for graduates of its universities. A number of other countries have recognized the potential of this approach during 2006, such as Australia, New Zealand and several other European Union nations.

For the H-1B program in the United States, it might be possible to keep the current quota in place if such measures are enacted. The possibility would be to allow a number of exemption categories targeted at specific needs such as the industries are interested in. Tens of thousands of potential highly skilled workers might then be eligible for work visas, potentially exceeding the proposed quota increases from earlier this year.

Meanwhile, industry players, such as Microsoft's CEO Bill Gates, continue to maintain that many more H-1B visas for skilled workers are needed this coming year. The 110th session of Congress will address this problem and, hopefully, get past the partisan rhetoric that deadlocked last year's debate.

The incoming Speaker of the U.S. House, Nancy Pelosi, has already spoken with Bill Gates about the need for reform. Both have stated that Congress needs to encourage innovation.

Well here's part of a local story in which this guys going into teaching because theres no jobs in tech field......



December 28, 2006
By Carole Schrock, The Star
A victim of the bursting technology bubble, Tim Graham recently found himself unemployed.

The Glenwood resident worked as a computer programmer for 15 years before his company went bankrupt.

"I had trouble getting back into the industry with so much experience," Graham said. "My wife, Paulette, said, 'Why don't you think about becoming a teacher?' "

Graham has a bachelor's of science degree in business management and has always liked math and science.

But he couldn't afford to spend years in college.

Then, his wife found the alternative teacher certification partnership program at Governors State University in University Park.

There are alot of Americans graduating with computer degrees already and they need jobs. My daughter's friend changed computer majors due to out sourcing to countries like India and former Soviet countries like the Ukraine. The only reason he has an advantage and a job is due to the fact that the company he works for deals with former soviet countries and as he is originally from Russia he can communicate with them much easier if their is a problem.
Bill Gates makes me sick as he hires mostly from the top high tech university in Canada. He goes up there all the time in person to assist with recruiting. I used to see it all the time as it is next to my hometown. There are not many high tech jobs in Canada as many have gone to countries such as China and India. These grads get so excited to go work for Micro Soft that they don't realize what they are getting paid compared to Americans.

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Some recent studies are being used to support the case that U.S. high-tech industries are suffering as they compete against other countries in the technology boom these past several years. These interests assert that restrictions on the number of H-1B workers available each year is hurting U.S. companies.

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The "recent studies" come from the government of India through the lobbyists they send to Washington [1]. They attempt to create the false impression that Americans can't be hired for high-tech jobs and that India is naturally "talented" in the high-tech services area. Don't believe any of their lies.

The H1-B program is a different "take" on run-away third-world immigration to the US. The government of India has convinced American politicians and business leaders to attempt to allow hundreds of thousands of desperate Indian workers, many armed with forged resumes and false credentials into the US. The only thing keeping this other form of "illegal immigration" from happening (illegal in that the H1-B system is so rife with fraud) are Congressmen like Tom Tandcredo who understand that India has as much misery to offer the United States as illegal aliens from Mexico do.

1. http://www.usindiafriendship.net/congre ... cornyn.htm

U.S. Senate India Caucus
John Cornyn, Senator Who Made the Difference
Press Release
April 23, 2004

For Mago, a successful Dallas businessman with numerous civic and social affiliations, this was his crowning achievement. The effort to form a Senate India caucus has been on the burner for several years, but with a single stroke Mago achieved it because of strong support he got from Senator Cornyn.

During his India trip, Senator Cornyn had a chance meeting with about a dozen members of the House India caucus who also were visiting the South Asian nation at the same time.

On his return from India, Senator Cornyn talked to a number of his colleagues in the Senate to join him in the bipartisan "Friends of India" Caucus.

The response was overwhelming. Among those who wanted to join the group was Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, who even agreed to be the body’s co-chair.

Matt Winslow, Senator Cornyn’s foreign policy advisor, began coordinating with every senator’s office. There was not much convincing to do as each Senator realized the importance of this body in improving Indo-U.S. relations.

Mago also convinced Kay Bailey Hutchison, the other popular and powerful Senator from Texas, to the caucus.

Here are the members of the Senate India Caucus - the usual suspects, most are also illegal alien anmnesty supporters

U.S. Senate India Caucus
Members of US Senate India Caucus

http://www.usindiafriendship.net/congre ... embers.htm

109th Congress elected in November 2004
List updated as of March 13, 2005

18 Democrats, 19 Republicans, Total 37

John Cornyn, Co-Chair
Hillary Clinton, Co-Chair
Wayne Allard
Evan Bayh
Robert Bennett
Jeff Bingaman
Barbara Boxer
Maria Cantwell
Saxy Chambliss
Thad Cochran
Norm Coleman
John Corzine
Mike Crapo
Mark Dayton
Mike DeWine
Richard Durbin
Bill Frist
Lindsey Graham
Charles Grassley
Orrin Hatch
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Daniel Inouye
Mary Landrieu
Frank Lautenberg
Carl Levin
Joseph Lieberman
Trent Lott
Barbara Mikulski
John Rockefeller
Rick Santorum
Charles Schumer
Gordon Smith
Arlen Specter
Debbie Stabenow
Ted Stevens
George Voinovich
Ron Wyden





Latest updates: October 22 , 2005
U.S. Senate India Caucus

http://www.usindiafriendship.net/congre ... caucus.htm

by Aziz Haniffa in Washington DC (March 31, 2004)

A new bipartisan organisation called 'Friends of India' has been formed in the US Senate, similar to the 10-year-old Congressional Caucus on India and Indian Americans in the US House of Representatives.

This is the first time in the history of the US Senate that a country-focused caucus has been constituted and announcing its formation was the driving force behind the move Senator John Cornyn, a freshman Republican Senator from Texas who recently visited India.

Cornyn, who was the keynote speaker at the Second Annual Capitol Hill Gala Dinner of the American Association of Physicians of Indian Origin on Tuesday night following AAPI's two-day legislative conference, said co-chairing 'Friends of India' in the US Senate would be Democratic Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

He said that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Tennessee Republican and Minority Leader Thomas Dachle,South Dakota Democrat had also agreed to become members of the Friends of India group and so had 18 other Senators from both sides of the aisle.

Cornyn said he 'undertook the job of creating an India Caucus in the US Senate, because of the incredible experience I had in India and because of the importance of US-India relations'.

"The response has been really outstanding across the political spectrum to the formation of such a Caucus and to me that says a lot to work on the good relationship we have in the Senate toward promoting ties between our two democracies," he said.

Cornyn acknowledged that it was unfortunate that over the years, and particularly during the Cold War years, despite both the US and India being democracies with so much in common 'did not have good relations', and described it 'as an accident of history', which has to be put right. "We have to make up for lost time," he said.

Indian Ambassador Lalit Mansingh who has been promoting the idea of the Friends of India Caucus in the US Senate among Indian American groups said he was ecstatic over the news.

Mansingh, who was also present at the AAPI dinner, as Cornyn was announcing the launch, said he had been in touch with the Senators and others over forming such a group. He told rediff.com: "I have to commend all the Indian leaders of the Indian American community that finally made this happen."

"Cornyn came back very charged after his trip to India and said 'I want to do something to promote US-India relations' and so we said 'this is something you can do'," Mansingh said. "So we were in contact with him."

"Even though he was aware of the formation of such a group I wanted them to say it," Mansingh said. He said there would be a formal launch.

It is believed that some of the most powerful and influential lawmakers like Senator Orrin Hatch, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Charles Grassley, head of the Finance Committee, Thad Cochran,chairman of the Appropriations Committee -- all Republicans -- and leading Democrats like Senators Paul Sarbanes, Joe Lieberman, and Edward M Kennedy have all enthusiastically agreed to be part of the 'Friends of India' Caucus.

http://americanprogrammer.blogspot.com/ ... ornyn.html

American DEvolution: Decline of the American Programmer
This blog is dedicated to exposing: 1) Corporate abuse/misuse of non-immigrant visas (B-1, H-1B, L-1, etc) 2) Discrimination against American workers in favor of hiring cheap foreign labor 3) The corruption and backscratching that occurs between corporate lobbyists/industry associations and Federal legislators.

Friday, December 15, 2006
Senator John Cornyn
(Beginning of a rant)

As an Austinite, I can't tell you how much anguish my own Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) has caused. When you think of back stabbing, sell out politicians, this man should come to mind. He has no concept of patriotism or what it means to be an American. He sells out American (and legal resident) workers at every turn. He is the chairman of the "Friends of India" caucus, the only caucus to that represents a foreign country in the Senate.

In case you didn't know, a caucus is a subgroup of Senators, like a special club, whose focus is on furthering some interest. In this particular case, its the interests of the Indian government and its largest companies, like Tata, Infosys, and others. These are body shops that take jobs away from legal residents and citizens of this country.

He makes a half-hearted attempt to redeem himself by being sort of opposed to illegal immigration. But then he'll turn right around and throw it all away in a frenzy to import workers. For example, he is one of the main proponents of the SKIL bill, which is a disasterous bill taking aim at decimating the science and engineering workers in this country. Just this month, he tried to sneak the passage of the SKIL bill through the back door of Congress. Fortunately pressure from workers got a few other Senators to block his measure (for now).

He'll be back. So will his legislation. What a pitiful excuse for an American. What a coward.

http://www.h1bvisasucks.com/H1BDiscussi ... diapac.htm

I attended a meeting of a group of unions here in the Seattle area last week The meeting was sponsored by the American Federation of Government Employees and was titled "A Congressional Innvestigation-outsourcing and privitization of government jobs". There were more than 13 different labor orginizations and unions present in the Seattle Labor Temple and I estimated the crowd to be at least 350 people.

As the presentation started each of the Congressmen was asked to give two minutes on how they stood on the "outsourcing issue". Each of these bald faced ****** were met with warm applause except for two very loud people booing and yelling "liar" and "traitor" (any guesses who that was ?). Within five minutes three of the four left the building without saying a word. I won't go into the program but I will say it was speeches by 10 different union and policy people on the effects of "outsourcing" on the services and quality of government. It concluded with a question and answer period. I jumped to the microphone and was the first one in line. The
following is what my wife and I have concluded was the exchange that followed :

Hello, My name is ################### and I am a blacklisted engineer in Seattle Washington. On behalf of the 2.5 million software engineers and it professionals how have lost thier jobs to oustsourcng and the even more insidious insourcing, the use of H1b, J1 and L1 visas, I would like to welcome you to the wonderful world of the american worker replacement program. These things have been going on for over five years now and the model is in place and it works. They tested it on my profession first and they found that they can destroy any labor force that can be created. It is too late to stop it, it is too profitable and fits too well into the Corporatacracy that has replaced democracy.

...................absolute dead silence in the room..

I only have one question for you Congressman Mc Dermott. How in God's name can you stand here in this room and tell these hopeful people that you care about thier lives and jobs or even care about this country when you belong to an organization that is directly responsible for the giving away of over 2.5 million high paying technical jobs in the last four years...when We have congressman like Jay Inslee going to India and making statments like "we aren't going do anything to stop outsourcing of American jobs" and "americans don't add value anymore".............

................the sound of 300 people sucking air through their clenched teeth..............

How can you stand there and pretend you care at all about any working Americans ?

Cgrs. McDermott.
(looking down at the table, turning red at the ears and neck, shuffles papers.....looks like one of your kids that got caught doing something really bad)
Mumbles.........."India has 3 billion people and Nuclear weapons"

I yell...."if you are giving my job away for national security...then I expect to be compensated"

Cgrs.McDermott
"well back when there was shortage"

My wife cuts him off with........"You are a Goddamn Liar" I yell "that is a lie and you know it... you have read and heard testimony in congress from Dr. Norm Matloff and yet you stand there and lie to these people" "I am not going down like Kevin Flanigan congressman, I am not !"

I agree that computer programmers lost their jobs. They are now in India and former Soviet countries. That is why my daughters friend changed majors. At least he had brains enough to see the writing on the wall.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2003 ... 331200.htm

Ban on H1-B visas will hit Indians hard


Washington Sept. 5. Educated and highly qualified Indians hoping to get cushy jobs in the United States, especially in the software sector, may have their dreams shattered if a legislation to ban the issue of H1-B visas becomes law.

Hiring outside the US has a couple of advantages. One is introducing new concepts and ideas into American buisness practices. This allows big tech to mold products to fit underdeveloped countries. Remember, buisness do what they do to maintaining a certian profit level. Another advantages is, people are more than willing to come to the US. Even if that means a lower wage. I know this to be true. They are also less likely to stir up trouble demanding more pay, benifits, and time off for fear of losing their jobs. Admit it, we Americans have a standard of living to maintain. Mostly to keep what we have and want more by doing less.

Have you seen some our college grads. My god some of the ones that call themselves engineers can't even change a car tire without watching a DIY show. School teachers who just flat out, can't teach. I guess thats what happens when you pay ten thousand dollars a year to party.

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Have you seen some our college grads. My god some of the ones that call themselves engineers can't even change a car tire without watching a DIY show. School teachers who just flat out, can't teach. I guess thats what happens when you pay ten thousand dollars a year to party.

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Alipac readers:

This is another troll, most likely from India and most likely in response to discussing H1-Bs

Read the above from "Woundedeagle". You will notice the English is quite bad since he is from India, and his ideas bash the US because he works for an organization that helps outsource American jobs to India.

All very easy to detect.

Note to woundedeagle's boss:

The English on this one is quite bad. Be sure to replace with spammer with better English. If you are going to fool people here, you will have to try harder.

Woundedeagle wrote:

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Admit it, we Americans have a standard of living to maintain. Mostly to keep what we have and want more by doing less.

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Hmmm.......that was all I needed to see. I think you accidently dropped in on the wrong boards, this is ALIPAC. We stand against illegal immigration, not working class Americans! :?

Being from Canada is not much better. When I went to school up there we had to pass or else we were failed. We learned to do math without calculators until high school, and when we wrote papers we lost marks for both spelling and grammar errors. It was quiet in the classroom. Those days are gone. Kids are not being failed or allowed to skip a grade therefore good students get lazy and bad ones just get pushed through the system.
I took college courses as an adult and had to do a test that the kids that recently finished high school also did. Many of us older people were worried as it had been a long time since we finished high school. We ended up scoring 3 times higher than those who had just finished school. Teachers in many cities in Ontario have got really good pay checks and the summer off so many people go into it for the pay and summer off.
As for university up there it is more of a party than it is here. I went to university in Florida and it wasn't as much of a party than it was in Canada. In fact in Canada you had to have the "university experience" and that does not refer to studying.

WoundedPeacock, I just don't buy your propaganda. And while you were touting the benefits of H1Bs, you left out the part about them in some cases stealing from their employers.....for example, a situation I personally know of in which an Indian was stealing equipment and sending it back home to ingratiate himself to his mentor.

I have extensive experience with H1Bs as well as with American tech workers, and in fact, receive CVs all the time from people in India, China and elsewhere looking for positions. Sorry to break this news to you.....but Americans ARE the smartest, most creative, well-trained and hard-working, hands-down. I personally will do everything I can to ensure that our young people have the job opportunities they deserve in tech areas.

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Americans ARE the smartest, most creative, well-trained and hard-working, hands-down. I personally will do everything I can to ensure that our young people have the job opportunities they deserve in tech areas.

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Thanks for saying this! It gives hope. I have spent the last ten years in Detroit where I have heard nothing but insults and racism against American citizens. I constantly hear about how Muslims are superior to Americans and will one day own the US. I keep hearing about how much better Indians are at technical careers than Americans (a total lie since they have to steal our jobs in order to have a career to begin with!). I keep hearing about Mexicans doing the jobs Americans won't do when I have heard also that up 90% of Michigan carpenters and other trades have lost their jobs to illegal Mexican aliens.

Say those above words again; we need to hear them when the battle gets tough.

I agree Americans are smart and hardworking. Americans invented many things compared to other countries in the world.
I was at Starbuck's today and spoke to a young man who does renovations. He works for his father who owns buildings that are rented out as offices. Once he finishes the work he has he will need a job elsewhere and is really concerned. Most construction workers don't speak English and many are illegal and that is two strikes against him.

First off, im not from India. Im from Americas heartland. So are my parents and grandparents. My family roots go way back to a former US President, Grover Cleveland. My linage is mostly German but is mixed with Irish, English, and Native American.

Second, I am offended to be called a troll. That is my fault though because I failed to spell correctly or perform proper grammer for some of you. I also failed to mention that I dont agree with the Tech industry hiring immigrants. I failed to mention that not all educated people have poor educations. My bad. I do get upset and angry sometimes and forget to proof read. I guess its easy to rip on someone you cant look in the eye.

I do not go back on my point about poor higher education. My youngest son is in the fourth grade at a public school. For the last two years, his education has suffered in the hands of first time teachers and a classroom full of migrant children. I don't know if they are legal or not but the entire fourth grade class failed spelling the word fire on a test except my son. There are many other points to mention on these so called teachers, I just don't want to talk about that.
I worked in the automotive industry and directly dealt with so called engineers. You would be surprised how incapable some of them are.

I bleed Red, White, and Blue. I served nine years in the U.S.A.F.. I am very upset with Illegal Immigration. hint(Woundedeagle) That is why I visit this web site. W is doing a great service to our country. But don't be so niave to think that only Americans have the highest education in the world. That kind of thinking has allowed 20 million + to illegaly cross and stay in our beloved country.

I thought in my first post that you could read between the lines about our(American) problems. Obviously it has to be correctly spelled out or one gets labeled as a troll from India. Jees! As stated eariler it was my fault. All is forgiven but just this once.

When I lived in Canada I saw the same problems with people from Asia. Some came from India claiming to have engineering degrees and had friends over there vouch for them. They would buy fake degrees or copy real ones kind of like the illegals with SSN. They would have mionr experience working in say electronics and tell employers in Canada they were engineers. Once hired they would do their best and when they would see that someone below them had them made, they would get that person fired. This happened to my exhusband and a few other coworkers of his. If they themselves would get fired the good old your racist line would go into use. This way they would be able to keep their job.
We used to joke about people from some of the countries saying that all the men were engineers and all the women were teachers because that is what they would claim when they came to Canada.
I don't think it is that much different here.

Wounded, I understand your points regarding our educational system today, which seems to be failing so many students. Our public education system has clearly deteriorated, and it seems a major contributing factor is that school systems are being overwhelmed by children of illegal immigrants and the need to provide English language instruction. This results in over-crowding, funneling of resources away from other programs, and impedes the ability of teachers to actually teach. I'm not saying this is the only factor, but it is a very significant one.

My experience of our most highly-trained students is that they are just that - well-trained and well-prepared for their chosen careers and I hate to see what is going on in this country with our politicians promoting policies that undercut these young people. What really angers me is that the likes of Bill Gates are always saying that we need to train more tech workers at the same time that they are doing everyhthing they can to pull the rugs out from under these young people. When you view it from the inside, it easy to see the scam that it is.

Kate you said it the best. The school system is suffering due to the illegals. My daughter went to high school in North Dade Country and her school comprised mostly of Jewish teens. They did well in school as their parents expect them to do so and are very interested in how they are doing in school. The drop out rate was high mostly due to illegals who pulled their kids out of school and sent them to work as they need money. I seen myself in my condo complex. They hired a new cleaning company and some of the workers were just barely 16 from what my daughter and I figured. I called ICE and not long after that the majority of the cleaning people disappeared.
Those kids who stay are in ESOL classes and are spoon fed through high school at the expense of others who have to work hard to get the same grade in a normal classroom environment. My daughter told me about that. As we speak Russian and/or Ukrainian in the home my daughter had to do the ESOL test. If she would have deliberately did poorly as other kids did she too would have had 90's without working hard for them. Some of the legal ethnic kids were on to that and did that so they had higher grades and could get into college or university easier.
It is sad that the illegals are teaching other kids how to cheat.

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They would buy fake degrees or copy real ones kind of like the illegals with SSN. They would have mionr experience working in say electronics and tell employers in Canada they were engineers. Once hired they would do their best and when they would see that someone below them had them made, they would get that person fired.

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I worked as a web developer in Detroit during the height of the dot.com boom from 1995 (when it just started taking off) to 2001 (when 9-11 saw the end of most of the "exciting" internet businesses). Although I did met a few competent and experienced computer programmers who were from India, my experience with other Indians proved that they were almost like "wallflowers" who showed up at the dance unwanted. Many of the Indians I met seemed to have little knowledge of the Internet, only knowing that once they could call themselves "web masters" they could count on life-long careers in the United States (Indians, almost universally, are in an extreme hurry to get out of India itself). If an Indian did not know anything about Photoshop, for example, they would do everything they could to learn it from someone like me, and then go around "back stabbing" in order to get that person's job. They would put on an arrogant front as if only they deserved to have the job, and the American whose job they stole (and whose mentoring they stole) was "old news" and it was better to forget them. This is where the horrible misinformation about India being better at Americans at IT has come from. Nothing but constant corporate back stabbing in an environment of extreme political correctness.

I have also heard that those few native born American citizens who are hired by Indian owned firms, both in the US and in India itself, are promptly fired when their usefulness is over; yet, Indians seem to expect that Americans are going to warmly and cordially embrace them as "lifelong" intellectuals and eagerly needed "computer experts". Indians do not play fair and as time goes on, more and more Americans are having complaints about the attitudes that they bring from their native land, a land that carries with it the stigma of racial violence, child slavery and economic poverty unlike anything else found in the third-world.

Kate you are so right. I do video games for a living and managed to survive the outsourcing craze of 2001-2003, although I had to go through my 401K and savings account to do so. The game industry licked their collective chops over cheap labor from overseas and tried to farm out as much as they could. I personally know of over a dozen instances of this practice going on--and every single time we dumb, lazy Americans had to completely re-do the work done overseas. In 2004-2005 there was another craze of having Americans flown to nations like China and the former Soviet Union to train these superior overseas workers. That didn't work either.

Today, in nearly-2007, the outsourcing craze, from what I can tell, IS OVER. This is great news folks. The truth is, most of these reptilian businessmen who wanted to line their pockets at our expense have been bitten on their fat asses as re-doing game assets put games over-budget and off-schedule. One former supervisor of mine, I'll call him Bart, referred to us game artists as "a dime a dozen" and "toilet paper" and couldn't wait to outsource as much work as possible. All of it had to be redone. Meanwhile, we lazy Americans had to work 60-70 hour weeks (of course no overtime pay) to finish the game but we did it.

Bart is now unemployed. His attitude however was/is absolutely textbook--he'd replace any of us in a heartbeat if he could put more money in his own pocket. And here's the best part--I learned from my Art Director that Bart was using company funds to fly to "video game seminars"-- but he was really flying to Thailand trying to rig up an outsourcing facility over their for his own profit. So Bart was stabbing our staff in the back AND stabbing the owner in the back. He even tried to get the Art Director, on the sly, to try to join him in this underhanded endeavor but the AD said NO.

So if anyone wants to dog Americans, start with the Barts of this world. These parasites will be the ones who eventually ruin everything.

Oh and by the way--in 2004 we advertised for an IT guy in the city newspaper. We got 600 resumes within one week. The guy we eventually hired, who is one of the most competent, dependable, hard-working guys I ever met, was unemployed for TWO YEARS before he got the job with us.

We had a handful of foreign Visa employees working on site until recently--but then word got out that Bart was paying them between 10 and 15K LESS than the Americans, so they all took off.

BobC, great story. I don't have any doubts about what you say. You should consider sending this to John Cornyn and his other H1B insourcing supporters in the Senate. They really need to hear such stories from those on the front lines.

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BobC, great story. I don't have any doubts about what you say. You should consider sending this to John Cornyn and his other H1B insourcing supporters in the Senate. They really need to hear such stories from those on the front lines.

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Hi Kate. I have sent the following series to several representatives. I doubt they paid attention to it. The H1B visa is a big joke. It looks like the 'sleepy' state of Maine is a huge storefront for phony H1B's. There is alot of information to read, but it's all here, if anyone is interested.

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/immigration/

I spoke to my friend who does computer programming about this yesterday. He told me that there are virtually no computer programming jobs in the United States. They are either in India or the Ukraine (a former Soviet Union Country that is to the west of Russia). As I said earlier he has a job as he speaks Russian and the computer programmers the company he workers for are in the Ukraine. His ability to communicate with the programmers is the reason he has a job.
We also were wondering why do so many universities offer degrees in courses like computer programming when there are no jobs here. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize no from here would want to immigrate to the countries where those jobs are.