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    No Amnesty In Arizona

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    Tue Feb 19, 6:55 PM ET



    Immigration Reform: The problem of illegal immigration seems to take care of itself if laws are obeyed and enforced. For the latest evidence, we turn to Sen. John McCain's home state.


    Arizona is seeing signs of a flight by Mexican immigrants out of the state and back across the border. Local reformers credit the state's recent crackdown on illegal immigration. Indeed, sanctions against employers are playing a key role.

    The new state law -- which goes into effect March 1 -- punishes employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants by suspending their business license for 10 days on the first violation and revoking it for a second offense.

    At the same time, the county sheriff in Phoenix has been helping enforce federal immigration laws by rounding up people living there illegally.

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection has given arrest authority to many deputies. So in the course of a traffic stop, illegal aliens without driver's licenses for the first time now stand a real chance of being deported.

    In response to the crackdown, illegals are flooding the Mexican consulate in Phoenix to obtain papers to move back across the border and enroll their children in school.

    The consulate is reporting an "unusual" 400% increase in parents applying for Mexican birth certificates for their anchor babies and other documents they need to return to Mexico.

    They're also requesting a paper known as a "menaje de casa," which allows illegals living in the U.S. to cross into Mexico without paying a tax on their furniture and other household goods.

    How charming that they follow their own immigration rules, but not ours. And how telling that the Mexican government makes it hard for its citizens to return, while making it easier for them to break into our country by handing out thousands of maps to border tunnels and water tanks in the Arizona desert.

    Some immigrants' rights groups are claiming U.S. citizens, not just illegals, are crossing into Mexico, because the Arizona economy is flagging, and construction and retail jobs are drying up. That makes little sense. Americans don't flee to Mexico to find work.

    Fact is, some 30,000 illegal immigrants plan to leave Arizona sometime before March 1, when the state's tough new immigration laws kick in, according to a survey conducted earlier this month by Chicanos Por La Causa. And CPLC can hardly be accused of anti-immigrant bias -- it's a nonprofit immigrant-support group.

    State lawmakers who pushed through the crackdown are already heralding its success. The desired effect was having illegals see that the red carpet would no longer be rolled out for them.

    Arizona has borne the brunt of the Mexican invasion, and its citizens are fed up. According to a study last year, 12% of Arizona workers are in the U.S. illegally -- the highest share in the country.

    Illegal immigrants and their families are not only a burden on public services, but many of them join gangs and commit violent crimes while living here.

    Amnesty advocates argue it's not feasible to deport millions of illegals. They say it's impossible to round up 12 million people and kick them out of the country.

    But the out-migration in Arizona proves you don't have to. Just making a strong show of law enforcement at the work site and on the street corners is enough to discourage illegals from staying.

    Arizona is a model for other states being overrun by illegals. If they just send a clear message to immigrants living here illegally that they're serious about enforcing the law, they'll pack up and leave. And they'll tell their friends and relatives waiting to break in on the other side of the border that it just ain't worth it.

    It costs a lot of money to hire coyotes and smugglers to get here. They'll see in due order that they'll be wasting their money and will stay home -- or get in line with law-abiding immigrants who actually want to come to America and be American citizens.

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    Watch for buzz word during this years' prez campaign that immigration is 'broken'-what they mean by 'broken' is that deportations are taking place.Any form of amnesty,even for a small group will have every illegal claiming to fit somehow into this group, even if common sense says they do not.The federal government would have to spend 10s of thousands proving each one of these people do not fit in that group. You would even have people coming in the counrty years later claiming they have been here all along and belong in that group.Meanwhile they would stay in the country.Remember any amnesty is also AMNESTY FOR EMPLOYERS!!!!

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    The consulate is reporting an "unusual" 400% increase in parents applying for Mexican birth certificates for their anchor babies and other documents they need to return to Mexico.
    Don't get too excited about the 400% increase--it may have increased from 1 to 4 and thats a 400% increase.

    Some immigrants' rights groups are claiming U.S. citizens, not just illegals, are crossing into Mexico, because the Arizona economy is flagging, and construction and retail jobs are drying up. That makes little sense. Americans don't flee to Mexico to find work.
    Next thing you know Mexico will DEMAND a wall be built to stop the invasion by 'U.S. citizens' into Mexico.

    "When in Mexico the U.S. State Department reminds U.S. citizens to avoid participating in demonstrations and other activities that might be deemed political by Mexican authorities. The Mexican Constitution prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detention and/or deportation."
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    Some immigrants' rights groups are claiming U.S. citizens, not just illegals, are crossing into Mexico, because the Arizona economy is flagging, and construction and retail jobs are drying up. That makes little sense. Americans don't flee to Mexico to find work.
    Those "US citizens" they refer to are most likely anchor babies of illegals.
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    In Obama's winning speech tonight he talked about giving amnesty to those here and locking down the borders. He spoke of of having illegal's pay a fine to stay, which we know won't happen. He spoke of corporations treating them fairly and humane. Do you know what that means? Higher wages, paying for insurance and paying taxes. Do you think the illegal will want to do that? I don't. Do you think a failing economy can take care of them the way they are? I don't think so. Do you think Americans will scream while our jobs are gone and they are working? Obama has his hands full. Promise, promise, promise. I just don't think it is going to be as easy as that. Especially if he is going to keep making the states fit the bill without the help of the Government.
    It would just be easier on all of them if they would just fine employers who hire them and shore up the border. We have to much on our plate as it is.
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