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    Governors from U.S., Mexico to meet at Puerto Peñasco

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    Governors from U.S., Mexico to meet at Puerto Peñasco
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    Tucson, Arizona | Published: 09.26.2007
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    PHOENIX -- Border governors are set to meet this week in Puerto Peñasco, Mexico, to discuss various issues including immigration reform, drug smuggling and truck inspections.
    Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will be representing U.S Border states during the two-day meeting at the popular Gulf of California resort, known to Americans as Rocky Point.
    Also expected to participate in the talks Thursday and Friday are Mexico's President Felipe Calderon, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Carlos Slim, said to be the world's richest man.
    "This shows the states taking the initiative, trying to discuss their common interests and coming to some solutions," said Mario Welfo, a spokesman for Sonora Gov. Eduardo Bours Castelo.
    A spokesman for Chertoff says his participation is partly aimed at keeping tabs on what immigration measures states are considering. "There are clearly states that are taking measures because of the failure of the U.S. Congress to enact immigration reform," said Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke.
    The governors also hope to hear more from Chertoff and Calderon about a proposed multibillion-dollar aid package being negotiated between Mexico and the United States. The package is aimed at fighting drug smugglers.
    Napolitano plans to push for a resolution urging the U.S. government to keep better track of sales of the cold remedy pseudoephedrine, a key ingredient in methamphetamine, said Marco Lopez, Napolitano's senior adviser on international issues.
    As Mexico cracks down on pseudoephedrine imports, smugglers are turning to U.S. suppliers to keep their clandestine drug labs running, Lopez said. Arizona and other states have restricted over-the-counter sales of pseudoephedrine pills, but federal controls on the importing of bulk pseudoephedrine remain weak, Lopez said.

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    CA and AZ governers talking to Mexico about immigration reform? I thought that immigration was a "Federal" issue? They always hide behind this excuse whenever they are blasted for not doing enough to curb illegal immigration, especially when it comes to illegal alien criminals, their use of social services, education and the cost to taxpayers, etc.
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    CA and AZ governers talking to Mexico about immigration reform? I thought that immigration was a "Federal" issue?

    I don't understand why the governors of AZ and CA are meeting with not only the President of Mexico, but with Carlos Slim, the world's richest man?

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    It is my understanding that it is a violation of federal law for any US government official (other than designated state department representatives )to discuss any aspect of foreign policy with another government. This was one of the issues raised when Speaker Pelosi traveled to the middle-east and discussed international issues with the heads of state of several middle eastern countries, including I believe Syria and IRAN. The point is to ensure that continuity and consistency of foreign policy is not undermined by individuals outside the normal diplomatic loop.

    The law was passed I think in the 60's. I will try and dig up the specifics. However, don't hold your breath waiting for the Bush Administation to do anything about it.
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    The law is called the Logan Act, and was originally passed in 1799, and amended in 1994. It makes it a felony for any "unauthorized" citizen to negotiate with a foreign government.
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    A spokesman for Chertoff says his participation is partly aimed at keeping tabs on what immigration measures states are considering.
    I thought he was supposed to be in charge.

    If he was, he wouldn't have to "tag along" to listen in on this meeting and their plans.

    His plans would automatically be their plans.

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    This is crazy and absoultly out of hand, these governors have no business discussing forign policy with anthor country.

    We should e-mail our Senator and ask them where the hell is their oversight again.

    Can't anyone stick to doing their own job. Even Chertoff doesn't have the right to go around making deals with other countrys, his job is our security and enforcing our immigration laws.

    I also have to wonder whose billions of $$$$ this is going to Mexicos drug problem



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    U.S. Security Chief Calls Gangs Threat To Mexican Government, Defends 'Virtual' Fences
    AP - 9/28/2007 8:48 PM - Updated 9/28/2007 8:49 PM
    PUERTO PENASCO, Mexico (AP) _ Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Friday that the United States and Mexico were discussing joint programs to fight drug gangs and organized crime, and defended a plan to install ``virtual'' fences along the border.

    Speaking before the 25th annual meeting of U.S. and Mexican border governors at this gulf of California resort, Chertoff said his department is on target to reach goals for strengthening the Border Patrol to 18,000 agents nationwide and approving the virtual fences, which use sensors and cameras to detect border crossers.

    Chertoff defended the project but acknowledged that ``we're slightly delayed _ this is not uncommon for high-technology projects.'' He said he hopes final testing on the components of the virtual fences will be held within a month.

    He also praised the Mexican government for a nationwide offensive launched early this year against drug cartels, including the deployment of more than 20,000 soldiers and federal police agents in states hit hard by violence blamed on the gangs. The country has also been rocked by a series of gas-pipeline bombings claimed by leftist rebels.

    ``I have nothing but good things to say about the approach that President (Felipe) Calderon has taken to dealing with organized crime in Mexico, which is a very serious threat to the authority of the government and law enforcement in parts of Mexico,'' Chertoff said.

    On Thursday, Calderon called on the United States to do more to stem the flow of weapons and drug money into Mexico, noting that the illegal weapon trade has resulted in the deaths of dozens of Mexican law enforcement officials.

    ``We have to tackle crime on both sides of the border, that means the flow of drugs, the flow of weapons and the flow of money,'' Chertoff said.

    ``We have been working with the Mexican government to talk about some partnership activities we could undertake, working on both sides of the border to deal with this issue,'' he said, without giving details. Mexico has done ``an outstanding job in identifying major drug-trafficking king pins and extraditing them and incapacitating them,'' Chertoff added.

    At the meeting, Calderon and governors from both sides of the border called for federal help in alleviating massive traffic jams at U.S.-Mexico border crossings, saying the U.S. need to address security concerns should not mean long bottlenecks.

    Describing the gridlock, Baja California Gov. Eugenio Elorduy said, ``We have the biggest parking lots in the world, at all times of day, and moreover, it is creating a pollution problem.

    ``Unfortunately, we are not getting any response from the U.S. government.''

    Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano said the long border waits were part of the conference's discussions Friday.

    ``Our missing partner is the federal government, and that is where we need to put our efforts next,'' said Napolitano, a Democrat. ``Our federal governments can no longer satisfy us simply by coming to a meeting and giving a speech. What we require is resources and dedication and priority setting that has yet to be seen.''

    The governors agreed to support the use of ``tandem'' inspection booths at crossings, where one booth located immediately behind another allows two vehicles to pass through at a time.

    But U.S. officials were focused largely on security issues.

    The U.S. government has announced proposed routes and designs for some of the 370 miles of fencing and 200 miles of vehicle barriers to be put in place by the end of 2008.

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