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    Viva Hispanic fertility!

    Viva Hispanic fertility!
    Wednesday August 20, 2008




    News from the US Census Bureau: http://tinyurl.com/6k4z9t

    If it weren't for Hispanic births, the U.S. could be confronting long-term population declines similar to those in Germany, Japan and other industrialized countries.

    Hispanics are the only ethnic group now producing more than two children per family, according to a Census Bureau report released Monday. That's the number necessary to replace the mother and father and keep the population stable.

    "The Hispanic population is growing; whites and Asians are not replacing themselves," said Jane Dye, the Census Bureau demographer who wrote the study.
    The average U.S. woman produces 1.9 children, but broken down by ethnicity, the numbers are 1.7 for Asian Americans, 1.8 for non-Hispanic whites, 2.0 for blacks and 2.3 for Hispanics. American Indians and Native Americans weren't included in the report. The fertility rates are sufficient, combined with immigration, to keep the U.S. population growing.

    Another press report on the same Census findings pointed out that the longer a Hispanic mother has been in the US (over generations), the less likely she is to maintain an above-replacement fertility rate. So it's Hispanic immigrants who are keeping the US from turning into a nursing home in the near long term.

    Some non-Hispanics may not like the Hispanicization of the US, but if they aren't going to have bigger families, or families at all, they ought to be grateful for it, considering the alternative. Here's Philip Longman (published by the CFR in "Foreign Affairs" http://tinyurl.com/2qjw6 :

    Declining fertility rates at first bring a "demographic dividend." That dividend has to be repaid, however, if the trend continues. Although at first the fact that there are fewer children to feed, clothe, and educate leaves more for adults to enjoy, soon enough, if fertility falls beneath replacement levels, the number of productive workers drops as well, and the number of dependent elderly increase. And these older citizens consume far more resources than children do. Even after considering the cost of education, a typical child in the United States consumes 28 percent less than the typical working-age adult, whereas elders consume 27 percent more, mostly in health-related expenses.

    Largely because of this imbalance, population aging, once it begins creating more seniors than workers, puts severe strains on government budgets. In Germany, for example, public spending on pensions, even after accounting for a reduction in future benefits written into current law, is expected to swell from an already staggering 10.3 percent of GDP to 15.4 percent by 2040 -- even as the number of workers available to support each retiree shrinks from 2.6 to 1.4. Meanwhile, the cost of government health-care benefits for the elderly is expected to rise from today's 3.8 percent of GDP to 8.4 percent by 2040.

    Population aging also depresses the growth of government revenues. Population growth is a major source of economic growth: more people create more demand for the products capitalists sell, and more supply of the labor capitalists buy. Economists may be able to construct models of how economies could grow amid a shrinking population, but in the real world, it has never happened. A nation's GDP is literally the sum of its labor force times average output per worker. Thus a decline in the number of workers implies a decline in an economy's growth potential. When the size of the work force falls, economic growth can occur only if productivity increases enough to compensate. And these increases would have to be substantial to offset the impact of aging. Italy, for example, expects its working-age population to plunge 41 percent by 2050 -- meaning that output per worker would have to increase by at least that amount just to keep Italy's economic growth rate from falling below zero. With a shrinking labor supply, Europe's future economic growth will therefore depend entirely on getting more out of each remaining worker (many of them unskilled, recently arrived immigrants), even as it has to tax them at higher and higher rates to pay for old-age pensions and health care.
    My complaint has always been with the illegality of much of the Hispanic immigration to this country. But there's a good economic case to make that in the macro sense, we need these immigrants and their children. But this is only a temporary fix to the birth dearth problem; fertility rates have collapsed in Mexico and elsewhere in Latin America -- and indeed, as Longman writes, the world over. Where are tomorrow's fertile immigrants going to come from? At some point, Americans who have lived here for generations are either going to have to start having bigger families, or get used to a very different way of living. Which is to say that no matter which option we choose, we're going to have to get used to a very different way of living.
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    The only reason that we would have any need for an expanding birthrate---and the concurrent population increase---is that Americans are gradually turning from being a nation of producers to being a horde of paper pushers. More and more people are lured into thinking of careers that involve no manual labor or skills. Any amount of these beyond necessity---and the quantity of them could be reduced by improving organization and efficiency---just requires more inflow of workers who can keep the wheels turning, i.e. producing a tangible product.
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    The other reason we are being fed the line that we need an expanding birthrate is so that big business can have more consumers. It doesn't matter to them if our standard of living declines due to a population explosion. They don't care that our natural resources will be depleted much more rapidly. All they care about is having more people to buy their crap.

    I was listening to a program yesterday that predicts our population will increase to 400 million in 42 years. What will the standard of living be in the US when that happens???? Notice the candidates aren't talking about that.
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    Maybe the elitist owned-and-operated U.S. government anticipated this population explosion, recognizing the benefits of re-populating this country with third-world, un-educated, and low-wage earning Hispanics for slave labor and civil obedience. American citizens and their way of life have become too expensive to maintain and they have acquired too much knowledge. They have forced too much transparency upon the elitists, challenging and disrupting their plans for the One World Order.

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    fertility rates have collapsed in Mexico and elsewhere in Latin America
    Why do their fertility rates of illegal aliens increase once they are in the US, hmm? Could it be because of nanny-WELFARE-state that enables them? Well hell, what if ALL US citizens became babymaking machines and not have to worry about affording it, WELFARE will keep you living large!

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    Actually Hispanics have failed at the job. 2.3 is just barely above replacement rate. Though they've tried desperately to maintain their male dominated culture here in the U.S. it's overall a failure. Hispanic women see opportunity and are not willing to be baby machines. Additionally, urbanization decreases the need for children to help with labor so fewer births. The government is abandoning the Hispanic invasion now in favor of African refuges. Birth rates of 7 per woman are much more attractive. Push 2 for Somali will be next. Obama's the man to get it done.
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