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    'We can't deport 12 million illegals!' Oh really...

    'We can't deport 12 million illegals!' Oh really...

    by Bobby Eberle
    June 10, 2008 at 6:01 am

    When discussing the problems massive illegal immigration has caused for the American taxpayer, many are at a loss when it comes to what to do with the millions of illegals who are already here. The majority of Americans want tougher border controls (are you listening up there in Washington?). People want immigration laws enforced, they want employers to be responsible for hiring legal workers, and they don't want to reward law-breaking with amnesty. What Congress and many Americans don't realize is that by doing the basics to stop the hiring of illegal aliens, deportation will take care of itself. It's the basics of supply and demand.

    As Rachel Alexander noted in a recent posting in The Loft, "Since Arizona's local law enforcement began enforcing illegal immigration laws and an employer sanctions law went into effect, illegal immigrants have been fleeing the state in large numbers."


    Fewer illegal immigrants are using hospital emergency rooms, so waiting times have decreased. Although the rest of the country is in an economic slump, unemployment is going down in Arizona, from 4.5% in January to 4.1% in March. Day laborers loitering outside of Home Depot and other stores have mostly disappeared, ending months of confrontation between illegal immigrant sympathizers and protesters. Desert lands near the border are returning to their pristine condition and the wildlife is coming back. Identity theft and car thefts are decreasing.

    That's right.... by simply enforcing immigration laws and penalizing employers for hiring illegal aliens, the numbers of illegal aliens went DOWN. Does this mean they all left the country and returned home? No, of course not. Some probably did, while others went to another area of America where laws are not respected or enforced.

    The point, however, is that this crackdown on illegal immigration did not involve "rounding them up," or mass deportation. This phrase is often used by immigration reform critics as a way to demonstrate the "mean spiritedness" of those who want illegal immigration to stop. As readers can see from the Arizona example, deportation takes care of itself by simply enforcing the laws regarding the hiring of illegals. Stop the demand, and the supply goes away.

    Now, it appears the White House is ramping up its efforts to go after employers who hire illegal aliens. As noted in the Associated Press story Bush orders contractors to check legal status of employees, "President Bush has signed an executive order requiring contractors and others who do business with the federal government to make sure their employees can legally work in the U.S."

    The federal government has had some embarrassing moments when illegal workers have been discovered to be working for contractors they've hired, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said in a news conference. For that reason it's trying to get its own house in order, Chertoff said.

    ''The federal government should lead by example and not merely by exhortation,'' he said.

    Rep. Brian Bilbray, a California Republican who heads the Immigration Reform Caucus, is quoted in the story as saying, "I think it's a great decision. I think it's what the American people have been asking for, common-sense, basic things that are not Draconian or dramatic. Employer verification addresses the real problem and that is illegal employment."

    If there are no jobs available for illegal aliens, they will return to their own countries. They will go where the jobs are. It's a simple concept. Yes, we can deport 12 million illegal aliens. We can do it without "rounding them up" or using extra resources. All American employers need to do is dry up the jobs.

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    This great country has sent a man to the moon and spacecraft to every planet’s solar system; mapped the human genome, cured incurable diseases, defeated the most powerful army in the world up to that time in the Revolution; defeated the most powerful armies in the world up to that time in WWI and II; rebuilt the warn torn countries of Japan and Germany, blunted the great Communist Soviet Union empire during the Cold War, established and built the greatest free nation ever on the face of the earth; but yet we hear people say that we can’t put 12 to 20 million people on busses and send them home…Hmmmmmmm..


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    This entire illegal immigration mess could've been cleaned up a long time ago if we had a government that represented the people and this great country.
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    If there are no jobs available for illegal aliens, they will return to their own countries. They will go where the jobs are. It's a simple concept. Yes, we can deport 12 million illegal aliens. We can do it without "rounding them up" or using extra resources. All American employers need to do is dry up the jobs.



    A thought came to me yesterday. We're fighting the wrong fight by going after the poor people sneaking across the border to work in this country. Along with the employer sanctions , we need to go after the people who have ignored all the labor rules and regulations we have fought for for so many years to make working conditions safe and fair for the American worker or any worker in this country. We should have safe working conditions and be paid a fair (minimum wage) salary for our efforts. Business has tried to reduce our wages and working conditions for ever and we have fought back. They found their solution by using people to do their work who had no wage or workplace protections and dumped the American worker to achieve their goals. We must insist that the laws protecting the workers in this country are followed to the letter . No one should be paid $5 an hour with no safety conditions. If business was forced to follow the labor laws of the state and federal governments, as well as worker verification laws then the illegal workers would disappear.

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    Attrition through enforcement works, is humane, and would likely have the added benefit of forcing the Mexican government to reform if enough IAs returned there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Attrition through enforcement works, is humane, and would likely have the added benefit of forcing the Mexican government to reform if enough IAs returned there.
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    Don't forget "Zeezil" this country has also secured the borders of several other Nations.
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