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    What Trump's Border Wall May Look Like: Here Are The Proposed Designs

    We have seen some of these previously but not all.
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    by Tyler Durden
    Apr 6, 2017 9:29 AM

    While Trump's push to build a wall along the Mexican border has quietly moved to the backburner in recent weeks, especially with the expiration of the Continuing Resolution looming on April 28, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection has continued to receive proposals from numerous companies for what Trump's wall could look like. As we discussed previously, CBP has called for two designs, one made of concrete and one of alternative material, for a wall to be built across the nearly 2,000-mile border.

    Among the requirements: the wall should stand at least 18 feet high, be able to withstand significant physical force, prevent climbing and tunneling, be aesthetically appealing (on the U.S. side at least), allow for surface drainage and so forth.

    In the current phase of the contracting process, companies are required to submit their qualifications and concepts for the wall, but not detailed renderings. However, as the WSJ observes, some companies have them and have provided them to The Wall Street Journal, although the proposals shown below do not have to include cost estimates.

    For the next round, the government will select at many as 20 finalists, who will then be asked to provide more detailed plans. Potential bidders had until Tuesday to submit preliminary plans.

    Here are some of the proposed wall designs as seen by the WSJ:

    “As Pretty as the Parthenon”



    RENDERING BY CRISIS RESOLUTION SECURITY SERVICES, INC.

    WHO Crisis Resolution Security Services of Clarence, Ill., a global security management firm

    DESIGN CRSS says the wall is meant to evoke famous walls in history, using crenellations, parapets and buttresses, and would be “as pretty as the Parthenon.” The wall would be built on a 30-foot-high dirt berm, graded to prevent vehicles from approaching. It also would follow existing interior roads and highways, which the company says would make it easier to transport materials and to maintain, while avoiding private-property issues. It would also create a wide zone in some places between the wall and the border. Bridges and gates would allow the inhabitants of that zone to cross.

    * * *

    Doubling as Nuclear Waste Facility



    RENDERING BY CLAYTON INDUSTRIES

    WHO Clayton Industries of Pittsburgh

    DESIGN Owner Christian Clayton has proposed devising a wall that would carry electricity generated from municipal, medical and nuclear waste. “The wall is just a building block,” Mr. Clayton said. “Think of the wall as big conduit." Mr. Clayton declined to detail many specifics of his plan, which would involve plants to convert the waste into power. Spent nuclear fuel rods and other waste would be buried 100 feet deep in a buffer zone between the border and the wall.

    * * *

    At an Angle



    RENDERING BY CHANLIN INC.

    WHO Chanlin Inc., of Middle River, Minn., a steel-fabrication construction company

    DESIGN Chanlin’s design for a concrete wall consists of using 10-foot-wide by 30-foot-high panels with embedded steel plates welded in a vertical position. To prevent climbing or scaling with a hook, the design would be tilted 30 degrees toward Mexico and include a smooth concrete finish with a steel cap plate. Steel bars would allow border patrol to be able to see through the fence.

    * * *

    Design Beyond Reach



    DRAWINGS BY J.M. DESIGN STUDIO

    WHO J.M. Design Studio of Pittsburgh, an all-women team of designers and artists

    DESIGN In a submission meant to protest the project, J.M. Design Studio's proposals are designed to “invite other realms of thought and consideration." One sketch shows nearly three million hammocks, for anyone’s use, strung across the border with 30-foot trees for support. Another one has a semicontinuous wall of nearly 10 million 30-foot-tall pipe organs, with openings every 20 feet allowing for people to pass through. Jennifer Meridian, a Pittsburgh artist involved in the submissions, called the actual border wall project "preposterous for so many reasons."

    * * *

    Memorial Wall



    RENDERINGS BY REILLY CONSTRUCTION

    WHO Reilly Construction and Croell Inc., both of Iowa

    DESIGN This joint venture would use tilt-slab construction consisting of concrete with reinforced fibers that the company says would make the wall more durable and resistant to damage. The panels would be 30 feet high and 15 feet wide with a footing underground to prevent tunneling. The concrete material could be engraved, colored or etched to make it more aesthetically appealing or should there be an interest in establishing a memorial in some places.

    * * *

    Hadrian’s Wall



    HADRIAN CONSTRUCTION

    WHO Hadrian Construction Co. of Carlsbad, Calif.

    DESIGN Company owner Rod Hadrian says his prefabricated product would make the wall cheaper and easier to install in remote border areas. The tridipanel wall system could be made to any thickness or color, and the diagonal pattern is meant to give the wall extra strength.

    * * *

    One-Way Visibility



    RENDERING BY MICHAEL EVANGELISTA-YSASAGA, PENNA GROUP

    WHO Penna Group of Fort Worth, Texas

    DESIGN Penna Group’s proposal is for a double wire mesh fence that has a sheet of plexiglass lined with a one-way mirror allowing border patrol agents to see the Mexico side, but not the reverse. The fence would be 30 feet tall with a 6-foot footing, and both would be designed to sustain tampering by pickaxes, hammers, hand-tools, and torches for over an hour and a half. The double-lined, double-wire mesh design is often used in maximum-security prisons.

    * * *

    Perch



    SAN DIEGO PROJECT MANAGEMENT, PSC

    WHO San Diego Project Management, PSC, a full-service design-build organization

    DESIGN This firm submitted a design for a wall similar to the ones used to protect medieval castles in Europe, according to the company. Most notably, the proposal includes a walkway on top called a “chemin de ronde” that allows for border agents to see Mexico through optical ports.

    * * *

    Camouflage



    RENDERING BY CONCRETE CONTRACTORS INTERSTATE, SINGLE EAGLE INC.

    WHO Single Eagle Inc. of Poway, Calif., a structural and decorative concrete specialist

    DESIGN This proposal has a design option that could incorporate artistic representations of local cultures. The walls are built using a tilt-up method that is cast onsite and then put into position, making it easier to built the wall in remote areas.

    * * *

    Sensors



    RENDERING BY DARKPULSE TECHNOLOGIES INC.

    WHO DarkPulse Technologies, based in Arizona and New York

    DESIGN Ballistic concrete is used, which the company says could withstand more than 12 hours of tampering. Using sensors, the wall and below-ground structure would notify border agents of the exact location of any tampering in real time. The wall would also include coating designed to prevent climbing and the use of grappling hooks.

    * * *

    Technology First



    RENDERING BY VSCENARIO

    WHO vScenario, a San Diego construction-technology company

    DESIGN vScenario’s design would begin by using drones to develop a 3-D spatial model of the terrain. The proposed wall would feature cameras, volumetric microwave sensors and fiberoptics designed to detect intrusions.

    * * *

    Fitting In



    WTC CONSTRUCTION

    WHO WTC Construction

    DESIGN This design aims to mimic a “rammed-Earth” construction style, which uses natural raw materials. The goal is a wall designed to look like an “extension of the surrounding landscape,” says the company. The system would include panels attached to reinforced concrete piers nested together to form a solid structure.

    * * *

    Mesh Fencing



    RIVERDALE MILLS

    WHO Riverdale Mills of Northbridge, Mass.

    DESIGN A galvanized welded wire mesh called WireWall, which the company says is virtually impossible to climb or cut. The company’s fencing is in use along the U.S.-Mexico border in California, as seen above. The fencing could be up to 20 feet tall and could be installed to reach 6 feet below ground.

    * * *

    A Twist on Steel



    HELIX STEEL

    WHO Helix Steel, a unit of Pensmore Reinforcement Technologies, of Ann Arbor, Mich., and Leesburg, Va.

    DESIGN Helix would mix concrete with its Twisted Steel Micro Rebar, a reinforcement designed to prevent cracking. The material is now used at some residential and commercial sites.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...oposed-designs
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    Here's a series of 25 charts and maps of Texas, the US and the world showing smuggling routes, concentrations of gangs, narcotic distribution routes, production areas, etc.
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-...photo-10702507

    There is so much knowledge already established why not make use of our present means plus the extra personnel that will be assigned to DHS? Sure, add some sections of fencing or wall where it is badly needed. But I would bet that there is a huge supply of knowledge, research and professional feedback that has been going to waste for the last two decades.

    No one is going to argue with intercepting drug supplies. And few are going to argue with breaking up tax and benefit fraud rings, vice, welfare abuse. Congress really needs to set its sights on controlling the chain migration mechanisms, and the lax awarding of visas to people considered 'victims' who may be just as responsible as the perps.

    If we get the DHS operating the way it is supposed to be, and if the USDOJ can successfully block the sanctuary policies there may be so few illegals attracted to the US that a wall across the whole continent isn't needed.
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    Can we utilize the nuclear waste facility model as a weapon for our unfriendly neighbors?

    Also, there are regions of the border that are actually animal refuges. There is available technology that can differentiate between man and creature and that should be used in those areas. Bare in mind we have NO jaguars in USA anymore, Fish & Wildlife Services killed our last one, MACHO B, a few years ago. Recently, another has been spotted crossing the border into USA - there are many creatures that might be affected by a concrete border wall in the wildlife refuges.

    Macho B, our last remaining jaguar in the US was killed/euthanized by misdirection after caught in a trap.
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    I will say Our President sure know how to Build . he will do a very good job Good luck Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by southBronx View Post
    I will say Our President sure know how to Build . he will do a very good job Good luck Trump
    Hello southBronx!! Wow, we have missed you! So good to see you and hope all is well with you!!

    Yes, our President does know how to build and he will do a great job!!
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    Here's an article on small border patrolling drones. It's interesting, also, that DHS has a Silicon Valley office to study new technology. They want firms to approach them with ideas, but can provide up to 200,000 dollars in venture capital. I like this method better than something which is going to be spread all over the news.


    http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/6/152...con-valley-dhs
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    How does marijuana move through America





    Marijuana is everywhere, with major flows originating from Mexico. However, this map is a bit out of date and was produced before recreational weed became legal in Alaska, Colorado, Oregon and Washington so we can assume that legalization may have reorganized some things.

    According to the DOJ: "Mexico-produced marijuana enters the country primarily in Arizona, California, and South Texas, while high-potency Canadian marijuana is usually smuggled through and between POEs in Washington, Michigan, New York, and Vermont. Both forms of marijuana are distributed nationally. Similarly, domestically produced marijuana is transported from grow sites to markets nationwide."


    Cocaine trafficking around the world


    This is one of the most interesting UN maps in the collection, showing the main routes that cocaine takes around the globe in 2016. It's crazy to think that cocaine that could get a user arrested in say, Australia, could have been brought from Central America, Mexico, the United States, Canada, and then on to Sydney and into the hands of a club kid.




    Where is cocaine seized


    The Americas appear to have a marked interest in seizing cocaine from Canada down to Chile, according to this map from the United Nations. While comparatively small when matched against the western hemisphere, areas in the Middle East and East Asia have also seen a significant increase in the number of number of seizures. According to the UN: "Cocaine trafficking via Africa may be regaining importance, and there are signs of increases in the trafficking of cocaine to Asia, particularly to East and South-East Asia and the Middle East, as cocaine seizures in Asia tripled from an average of 0.45 tons per year over the period 1998-2008 to 1.5 tons per year over the period 2009- 2014. In Oceania, the cocaine market appears to be stabilizing, following rapid growth over the past decade."

    Heroin trafficking across the world


    This map shows how heroin and other opiates move across the globe, with production centered in Mexico, Colombia, Myanmar, Loas and most importantly Afghanistan. Much of the American supply of opiates comes from Mexico, while Myanmar and Loas send product largely to China and their Southeast Asian neighbors. Afghanistan, which is one of the world's biggest producers, sends it's product all across the globe.
    Reported heroin seizures


    This map shows where heroin and morphine are being seized and how much is being seized. China looks to be cracking down, along with Western Europe. According to the UN report, "there are indications that heroin use may be undergoing a resurgence in some countries where it was previously declining. Heroin use increased in North America in the past decade, which resulted in an increase in the level of heroin-related deaths."

    Reported opium seizures in Asia


    Opium seizures in Pakistan appear to have climbed in 2016, but not as much as in Iran. According to the UN report: "The global interception rate for opiates doubled from the period 1980-1997 (particularly after the special session of the General Assembly on the world drug problem in 199 to the 2009-2014 period. The largest amount of opiates seized takes place in South-West Asia, followed by Europe. Accounting for 75 per cent of global opium seizures, 61 per cent of global morphine seizures and 17 per cent of global heroin seizures, the largest aggregated opiate seizures worldwide in 2014 were reported by the Islamic Republic of Iran."

    Meth trafficking across the world


    This UN map shows how meth flows across the planet. According to the UN: "For the past few years, methamphetamine seizures have accounted for the largest share of global ATS seizures annually, but, although methamphetamine is a feature of ATS markets worldwide, it is particularly dominant in East and South-East Asia and North America. Since 2009, those subregions together have annually accounted for most global methamphetamine seizures. Compared with other subregions, North America has consistently reported the largest amount of methamphetamine seizures each year, whereas between 2009 and 2014, methamphetamine seizures reported in East and South-East Asia almost quadrupled."

    Maps from the UN Office On Drugs and Crime....

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    Exclusive: No wall, but more high-tech gear, fencing sought by U.S. border agents
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0XP28J
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    I wish we didn't need the wall, but it's either a wall for at least 1,000 miles or a Wall of Americans guarding all 2,000 miles, 40,000 Americans strong, 20 per mile, 6 per shift x 3 shifts plus 2 floaters for sick leave and vacations, at $40,000 a year plus 25% benefits = $2 billion a year plus $1 billion a year for supplies, equipment, gear, weapons, radios, camping equipment, food, water, supplies, night goggles, vehicles and so forth. $3 billion a year for 40,000 men and women guarding our 2,000 mile border with 20 personnel manning their mile.

    It's one or the other. The present situation can't stand. The border has to be secured. I've always preferred the Wall of Americans over a physical wall and have posted the idea for years. For some reason people would rather pay contractors than American Workers. So okay, go with Plan B for the Wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post

    Also, there are regions of the border that are actually animal refuges. There is available technology that can differentiate between man and creature and that should be used in those areas. Bare in mind we have NO jaguars in USA anymore, Fish & Wildlife Services killed our last one, MACHO B, a few years ago. Recently, another has been spotted crossing the border into USA - there are many creatures that might be affected by a concrete border wall in the wildlife refuges.

    Macho B, our last remaining jaguar in the US was killed/euthanized by misdirection after caught in a trap.

    I say that reworking the internal DHS policies, which they are already doing, would be more effective and without the bad press of a continuous wall.

    (from: Yahoo News)
    Conservationists fear Trump's vow to build a wall the length of the border to keep criminals out of the United States will doom the beasts to extinction.

    It would stop them getting where they need to go to feed and mate.
    - 'Fauna crossing' -
    "Caution, fauna crossing," reads a sign among the cactus and wild bushes in the northeastern desert, where deer, wild cats, coyotes and wolves crisscross the frontier.
    The habitat spans the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge in Arizona and the Pinacate and Gran Altar Desert over in the Mexican state of Sonora.
    The latter is certified as a world heritage site by UNESCO.
    The reserve is divided only by a simple fence with gaps big enough for the animals to pass through.
    "It was designed specially so as not to hurt the animals and so they would have no problem crossing," said Miguel Angel Grageda, head of natural resources at El Pinacate.
    - Food and water -
    Rain is scarce in the parched desert, where the heat soars as high as 55 degrees Celsius (131 Fahrenheit).
    The animals have to trot long distances to look for water, food and shelter.
    They must also be mobile to keep their numbers up when drought or sickness kill off the species in certain areas.
    "If you just go and put a giant border wall between their habitat then you can cut movements off for some species which will prevent them from recolonizing their habitat," said Aaron Flesch, an environmental specialist at the University of Arizona.
    "When animals have trouble moving across the landscape to recolonize those places, the population in those places will never be restored."

    It is not just the animals who would suffer from a wall, experts say, but the whole desert ecosystem.
    Desert mammals break up the sun-baked ground with their hoofs so that when it does rain, the water drains underground.
    By tearing up the vegetation to eat it, they help spread the seeds so that desert flowers bloom anew.
    A wall could have "a big impact" by blocking and shifting watercourses, Ceballos said.
    That, and the untold impact on the soil and atmosphere, could affect humans too.

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