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    ZUCKED UP: Why Silicon Valley is Scared to Death of Trump Part 1

    28 May 2016

    California’s high-tech business wizards like Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg are in full freak-out mode over Donald Trump, and the key to understanding why lies in the H-1B visa program. As a recent L.A. Times story titled “Donald Trump has done the unthinkable: Unite Silicon Valley” reports:

    Ambitious start-up CEOs who swore off talking politics for fear of offending investors are enlisting in campaigns to discredit Trump. Longtime valley Republican stalwarts who have voted for every GOP nominee for decades say they can’t do it this year. The libertarian-minded innovators who just want to get government out of their way have less faith in Trump than they do in even Hillary Clinton, the Democrat with big plans to grow the bureaucracy.

    “At least Clinton is not going to go in and burn the place down,” said Reed Galen, a GOP consultant who advises tech companies. “But Trump comes in, and God knows what happens.”

    What’s wrong with Silicon Valley? Why the fear of the pro-business Donald Trump, and why is the California GOP establishment joining in the scrum?

    Just follow the money.

    For years, President Obama and the comprehensive immigration reform crown has distracted the American public masterfully, getting people to focus on low wage workers and ignore the more perilous drag on our economy; the devastating impact of immigration policy on the middle and upper-middle class due to guest worker programs that have led to stagnant wages and massive American job losses.

    Both Democrat and Republican advocates of comprehensive immigration reform were happy to let both citizens and pundits focus on the problems at our southern border. When President Obama announced his executive action on immigration, he focused on the “bedmakers and fruit pickers” that he claimed were doing jobs Americans didn’t want to do.

    Obama’s messaging wizards kept the frame of the debate on low skill, low wage workers. Abracadabra: it worked. Both liberals and conservatives were debating immigration after his address, and opinions flew on the issue of the millions of mostly Mexican and Central American immigrants who would now be able to work legally under Obama’s executive action and how these low wage workers would impact the economy.

    There’s no doubt that the issue of border security and low skill workers are important, but they were being used as a focal point of the immigration debate for a self serving reason.

    If Americans started focusing on the impact of guest worker programs like H-1B, the results would be bad for both Democrats and Republicans, costing them both the trust of voters and millions in lobbying money.

    Then along came Donald Trump, backed by immigration experts like Sen. Jeff Sessions. Suddenly, the H1-B issue became a focus. The public interest began lighting up the phones at SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Daily morning radio show, and the more the public learned, the angrier they became.

    There’s a lot to be angry about. The H-1B program has caused massive layoffs of American workers and over a decade of wage stagnation. More infuriating is that the victims of H-1B are Americans who played by the rules, got an education in a growing field, and thought they’d have a career future.

    There have been bipartisan reasons to keep the public in the dark about H-1B and keep them focused on low wage workers.

    If you want to see what’s really going on with immigration policy, look at the cash.

    Take a look at a list of the top lobbyists on the issue of immigration and it’s a high-tech wonderland. Microsoft, Intel, Oracle, Qualcomm, Motorola, Google, and, of course, Facebook are all the household names that are spending millions of dollars to influence politicians on immigration.

    You may also remember that Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg went all-in on the immigration issue, forming a new pro-comprehensive immigration reform group called and even having a computer “hackathon” for illegal immigration as a promotional event.

    For a “hackathon” Wednesday, Zuckerberg brought together a group of undocumented immigrants, the youngest of whom are known as “dreamers” because of the DREAM Act, a proposed immigration reform that would give legal residency to young immigrants who meet certain educational or service requirements.

    Those high tech giants aren’t investing on immigration lobbying and doing hackathons because they are concerned about bedmakers and fruit pickers. No, these companies are making a business decision based on getting a return on investment; they spend money on lobbyists, and in exchange, they save more money by taking advantage of immigration programs like the H-1B visa program.

    Here’s the official government description of the H-1B program:

    U.S. businesses use the H-1B visa program to employ foreign workers in specialty occupations that require theoretical or practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge, including, but not limited to: scientists, engineers, or computer programmers.

    Don’t let the language about “specialty occupations” mislead you. H-1B workers are taking basic, bread and butter tech jobs. In practice, most of the these jobs involve working in I.T. or programming. They don’t require advanced degrees, either: the vast majority of H-1B workers have the equivalent of a Bachelor’s degree.

    Microsoft has been a major player in H-1B lobbying and has also used the program extensively. Founder Bill Gates has even testified about the program to Congress, as part of his ‘sky is falling’ policy proposals that’s included the controversial Common Core education plan. Ars-Technica wrote:

    In probably the most controversial portion of his testimony, Gates said that the shortage of trained scientists and engineers had grown so severe that it required a dramatic increase in the number of highly-skilled immigrants permitted to enter the country. He charged that the current limit of 65,000 H-1B visas per year “bears no relation to the U.S. economy’s demand for skilled professionals,” and noted that all of the visas for fiscal year 2008 were snapped up on the first day they were available. As he has done before, Gates asked for a dramatic expansion of the H-1B cap.

    Despite the Gates’s claims, there doesn’t appear to be any such labor shortage. One indicator is that college-educated workers in computer and math occupations saw their average hourly wage rise 5.3 percent from 2000 to 2011. That’s an average wage increase that’s just less than half a percent per year. If there were such a dire shortage in a market based economy, you’d expect wages would have risen.

    The real problem isn’t a shortage of workers, it’s that H-1B workers have two big advantages over American workers that make them highly desirable to companies like Microsoft and Facebook.

    First, H-1B workers are locked into jobs at much lower wages than average United States salaries. Those cost savings are part of what drives down U.S. wages. This caused even famed free market economist Milton Friedman to say in 2002 that “there is no doubt that the H1-program is a benefit to their employers, enabling them to get workers at a lower wage, and to that extent, it is a subsidy.”

    There’s another advantage to H-1B for employers that’s harder to quantify but very real: because they operate under the fear of being sent back to their country if they lose their jobs, H-1B workers are easier to manage.

    President Obama talked about workers living in the shadows, but it’s fair to say the entire H-1B guest worker program is living in the shadows.

    In part two this report, we’ll examine the secrecy surrounding the impact of H-1B and a bizarre ruling by the Obama administration that makes the cloak of darkness even harder to pierce.
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    I've had discussions with people who oppose illegal immigration(but are not activists or a member of any anti-illegal immigration organizations), yet are active on facebook(but not active in opposing illegal immigration on there). I'd tell them, you know every person who goes on facebook is making Zuckerberg rich and Zuckerberg is spending millions of dollars to do pretty much the opposite of what people who oppose illegal immigration want. They say, I don't spend any money on there so he isn't making any money off of me. Then I tell them, even if they never spend a cent on facebook it's making him richer(he gets money through advertising, and the more people who are on facebook, the more money he gets). It's different if you are posting anti-illegal immigration posts on there to wake people up(even though those posts could be censored by liberal pro-illegal immigration people who are working for facebook), but these people were not doing that. I just think there are a lot of people on facebook who are opposed to illegal immigration, but don't realize that just by being on facebook, they are making Zuckerberg richer, giving him more money to promote his seemingly very pro-illegal immigration agenda.
    Then, from what I recall, Zuckerberg basically said that people who trusted him on facebook with their personal info that they put on their facebook pages were dumbf**ks. Those reasons is why I decided to delete my facebook page for good years ago. I am hoping someday facebook will go the way of myspace, and Zuckerberg's wealth will go down the drain and he'll end up living in a cardboard box somewhere in an alleyway near the southern border in a high crime neighborhood where he'll have to deal firsthand with illegal immigrant criminals. That would be karma.
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    Secrecy Zucks: Why Silicon Valley Is Scared of Donald Trump, Part 2

    29 May 2016

    Frightened political and business insiders have gone to great lengths to keep the American public from learning about the controversial H-1B guest worker visa program, which helps explain why the Silicon Valley elites and the Republican old guard are coming together to try and destroy Donald Trump.

    The lengths the H-1B advocates have gone to keep their secrets hidden is cause for alarm and shows exactly why the whole rotten immigration system needs to be exposed.

    The high-tech community are in screaming full-throated fear of Donald Trump, and with good reason. Silicon Valley’s current business model is based on two things that presumptive GOP nominee Trump has spoken out against: cheap overseas manufacturing and a cheaper, more malleable domestic labor force created through government programs like the H1-B foreign guest-worker program.

    Silicon Valley has been used to the Republican political establishment playing nice with them on programs like the H-1B guest-worker visa program that keeps their cheap labor pipeline rolling.

    As the Los Angeles Times reported in their article Donald Trump has done the unthinkable: Unite Silicon Valley

    From the corner conference room in his 23rd-floor office, with its sweeping views of San Francisco Bay, high-stakes tech investor and longtime GOP activist Alex Slusky talked about how Florida Sen. Marco Rubio sat in that very room for a tutorial on the innovation economy. He talks about how former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush was also enamored with the sector’s inner workings, as was Ohio Gov. John Kasich and, of course, Rand Paul, the Kentucky senator who made tech a central focus of his campaign.


    “He hasn’t done anything to reach out,” said Slusky, who has voted for every GOP presidential nominee since he organized his high school’s Ronald Reagan reelection effort

    That list is GOP politicians who do “reach out” is notable for the amount of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” supporters on it, including Jeb “Acts of Love” Bush and “Gang of Eight” member Marco Rubio.

    In part one of this series, we talked about how following the lobbying money on immigration reform leads to high-tech companies like Facebook and Microsoft spending millions to promote immigration in order to save money and have employees that they can control. Facebook isn’t just a top contributer: founder Mark Zuckerberg has been a relentless public advocate for more immigration.

    While the public has been focused on the immigration crisis involving low-wage workers from the southern border, we showed how the estimated two million workers imported using programs like the H-1B visa has caused salaries for Americans with computer science degrees to go flat for over a decade may actually be a bigger problem, one that neither the Democrats or Republicans want to talk about.

    The story has been both underreported and shocking but if you go to do research on your own, you’ll run into a problem: the people behind the guest worker program have made sure that very little information is available.

    When news stories say things like there an “estimated two million” workers in the United States on guest worker visa, that’s an estimate: no exact figures are available.

    As website explains:

    U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and the State Department publish almost nothing about the programs, except for a general annual report and the total number of visas issued. Only the Labor Department publishes detailed labor certifications, but stops short of providing petition or visa data. Without access to substantive information about guest workers, public debate over any reform of the programs is stymied.

    The companies and politicians promoting the guest worker corporate giveaways have a very good idea that if the public catches on to the fact that Americans are losing their jobs and having their wages stagnate, it further enflames a public that is already at a boiling point across the political spectrum.

    To keep the H-1B program under wraps, the political class have quietly used policy to make the data about the program even more difficult to assess. Take the bizarre 2014 edict by the Department of Labor about H-1B data as reported by ComputerWorld:

    In a notice posted last week, the U.S. Department of Labor said that records used for labor certification, whether in paper or electronic, “are temporary records and subject to destruction” after five years, under a new policy.

    There was no explanation for the change, and it is perplexing to researchers. The records under threat are called Labor Condition Applications (LCA), which identify the H-1B employer, worksite, the prevailing wage, and the wage paid to the worker

    Yes: the policy actually destroys the electronic records that would be used for research into the H-1B program.

    Of course, the policy barely made a blip in the political media but the article in ComputerWorld exposes the problem, including the fact that the data in question takes up very little space.

    The cost of storage can’t be an issue for the government’s $80 billion IT budget: A full year’s worth of LCA data is less than 1GB.

    The change in retention policy was approved last year by the National Archives and Records Administration, but this action appears to have escaped notice until the Labor Department posted a note (See Oct. 17 note titled “H-1B legacy records no long available.”)

    LCA records are used by people on all sides of the H-1B issue, and their research usually goes beyond five years. The H-1B visa itself is for six years, with one renewal after three years.

    Norm Matloff, a computer science professor at the University of California at Davis and an H-1B visa researcher and critic, said he doesn’t understand the government’s action.

    “Paper records, sure, but electronic?” Matloff said

    When ComputerWorld asked the Department of Labor to explain, they got no response.

    While the government and high tech companies don’t want you to know anything about guest worker programs, the people whose lives have been ruined really want you to know and they are making their voices heard. Since the issue gets almost no media traction, they’ve been left to try and get the word out on their own.

    An example of the revolt agains the media goes back years to when one tech worker posted a video that revealed the shocking story of how companies openly and actively scheme to NOT hire Americans.

    This practice runs counter to the stated intent of the guest worker programs which is to not displace American workers. Proponents of the guest worker programs say that there are safeguards in the law to make sure the visa programs like H-1B, L-1 and PERM are triggered only when companies simply can’t find Americans to do the jobs.

    In 2007, a YouTube user account posted a video that showed the reality. As the video is described on YouTube, immigration attorneys from the law firm Cohen & Grigsby explain how they assist their high tech clients in running classified ads with the goal of NOT finding any qualified applicants, and show the steps they go through to disqualify even the most qualified Americans in order to secure green cards for H-1b workers.

    As the Christian Science Monitor reported on the video:

    “Our goal is clearly not to find a qualified US worker,” says the attorney in the video, an immigration lawyer at Cohen & Grigsby, a firm in Pittsburgh. “In a sense, that sounds funny, but it’s what we’re trying to do here.”

    The video is a real “Gruber Moment” for the guest worker program and has garnered close to half a million views. It was originally available on the Cohen & Grigsby website but it was quickly pulled down once it started getting exposure.

    The other place that angry Americans hurt by guest worker programs are telling their stories is the website Hire Americans First, which lists hundreds and hundreds of first person accounts. Click to any page and you’ll see stories like this one:

    I watched as 80% of the US citizens in my department were replaced with foreign visa workers while I was employed at GE Healthcare. Even though I have 15 years of experience in my field working with Fortune 500 companies- and a college degree I have remained either unemployed or under employed since September 2006.

    Or this one:

    With a 4 year degree in computers and 21 years experience I have not been able to find a job for almost 4 years. Recently I did a contract at Verizon in Tampa, Florida where out of approximately 1000 employees over 800 were H-1B visa from India.

    Or this one:

    Over the past five and a half years I have applied to at least 760 IT job openings, I have had at least 150 phone screens, and at least 50 in person interviews, yet I have never received even one job offer. Given the fact that my professional experience is in compiler development makes this problem even more shocking than normal, because my background is so rare that I have been contacted by employers in Canada, the United kingdom, the Netherlands, Germany, and even a recruiter from Patni Data Systems. Because of the H-1B and L-1 visa I have estimated that I have been defrauded of anywhere from $400,000 to $500,000 in income.

    These are American workers with skills and college degrees, not the fruit pickers and bedmakers that President Obama claims are doing jobs Americans don’t want to do. They’ve been sold out by politicians on both sides of the aisle but their stories have to be sought out because the debate has focused on the low skill workers; a much safer debate for the political establishment and Silicon Valley.

    A system that brings truly skilled, exceptional people into the United States to work helps our country but the current system is fraught with abuse and just the lobbying on the issue is a multi-million dollar drain on the economy.

    Donald Trump, backed by such immigration stalwarts as Sen. Jeff Sessions, represents an existential threat to this abuse. If Trump is elected, immigration policy will be given a going over that it hasn’t had in decades.
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    Every Sunday newspapers run ads with thousands of fake jobs. Fake ads are also run on company websites & sites like These ads demonstrate no qualified American workers are available in order to secure Green Cards for foreign workers
    Exactly - always seemed a bit strange so many jobs posted yet never come to fruition if you apply. Well some people are fooled into thinking all those jobs are available for American citizens, they are not.

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