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    Rockfish, I was talking about defending ourselves against outsiders, not our own military of government. Hopefully, though, our government will start doing the right thing, but I think it will take us forcing them to, unfortunately.
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    Socialists/leftists are either sympathetic to or complicit with Islamists. It is always interesting to me that the values that the far left cherish, i.e, gay rights, abortion, no judgments on personal behavior, women's rights, secularism, etc., are antithetical to the values of Islamists. They would be the first ones to have their heads on the chopping block; you'd think they would be the ones who are most opposed to the Islamists instead of sympathizing with them.

    The only thing I can figure is that they are using Islam to tear down capitalism and Western society in general, thinking that in the end they will be able to control the Islamists and come out on top. But in my opinion, they are underestimating Islam.

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    noyoucannot, I think you have a very good point there. It does seems so backwards that they support Islam 100% to a fault, yet the Islamic extremists, maybe even the average one, would have them dead pronto if they were in charge.

    I just think this about the socialists and anarchists......they are all plain idiots. Remember what Forest's momma said' "stupid is as stupid does"?
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    A lot of commentators have said the reason these Islamists hate us is because of a lot of what Hollywood produces. What kind of people do we have it Hollywood? Well, I haven't seen too many conservatives over there.
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    As a Christian, I think that the reason Islamic extremists hate America is that we are a Christian nation. I do not care what they try to say about the "Crusaders", that was a campaign by the Catholic Church centuries ago, most of America is Protestant, which is a completely different line of beliefs.

    We always give them room to show themselves as being kind and considerate, but those moderates never stand up to the extremists, thus giving the extremists more fuel to believe they are being supported by ALL Muslim believers.

    This leads me to believe that deep down ALL Muslims really do not want to co-exist peacefully with Christians, as well they truly do believe what they are taught in their countries, the lies and propoganda about America and Christians.

    Personally, I do not want us letting in people, into America, that view America and it's people through this way, it simply will be our downfall.

    As for Hollywood. America can do without it's glutonous and corrupt industry. I don't blame other nations or believers for their view of what Hollywood produces.
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    AmericanElizabeth wrote:

    This leads me to believe that deep down ALL Muslims really do not want to co-exist peacefully with Christians, as well they truly do believe what they are taught in their countries, the lies and propoganda about America and Christians.
    Very true, Elizabeth. They are taught that they are superior to us on several levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth
    As a Christian, I think that the reason Islamic extremists hate America is that we are a Christian nation. I do not care what they try to say about the "Crusaders", that was a campaign by the Catholic Church centuries ago, most of America is Protestant, which is a completely different line of beliefs.

    We always give them room to show themselves as being kind and considerate, but those moderates never stand up to the extremists, thus giving the extremists more fuel to believe they are being supported by ALL Muslim believers.

    This leads me to believe that deep down ALL Muslims really do not want to co-exist peacefully with Christians, as well they truly do believe what they are taught in their countries, the lies and propoganda about America and Christians.

    Personally, I do not want us letting in people, into America, that view America and it's people through this way, it simply will be our downfall.

    As for Hollywood. America can do without it's glutonous and corrupt industry. I don't blame other nations or believers for their view of what Hollywood produces.
    I agree, but it was islam that attacked the free world in the 600th hundreds. In which destroyed everything they touched. IF the liberals understanded history they would not be on their side. They made there way forcing islam on people, and destroying any one that had thought or knowledge...
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    Liberals will never understand nor accept history. They consider themselves "progressive" and see no need to live in the past.
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    Matthew, this is correct, the Moores came into parts of Europe and took over, it is something that is highly overlooked when the libs want to act as though the Christians of Europe were so awful during the Crusades.

    There is not one innocent people, culture or society that has not committed some heinous act upon another, it is the same for the supposed "peaceful Muslims".
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    One of the interesting things about he Moors invasion of Spain was that they allowed the Jews to run the banks.
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