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    Senate Could Vote on "Thought Crimes" Soon!


    When the full Senate returns to Washington in early December, they will soon begin to schedule floor votes on several pieces of legislation. One such piece of legislation is the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.
    With two versions of this bill currently in the Senate (H.R. 1955 and S. 1959), the legislation could attack First Amendment rights by mandating the government to clamp down on free speech online, among other things.

    To take immediate action on the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, click here:http://www.jbs.org/



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    SEC. 899A. DEFINITIONS.

    In this subtitle:

    `(1) COMMISSION- The term `Commission' means the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism established under section 899C.

    `(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

    `(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

    `(4) IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE- The term `ideologically based violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs.
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    DEMOCRATS - UNDERLINED
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    H.R.1955
    Title: To prevent homegrown terrorism, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Rep Harman, Jane [CA-36](introduced 4/19/2007)

    Latest Major Action: 10/24/2007 Referred to Senate committee.
    Status: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
    House Reports: 110-384 Part 1
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    COSPONSORS(14)
    Rep Carney, Christopher P. [PA-10] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 9/18/2007

    Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 8/1/2007
    Rep Dicks, Norman D. [WA-6] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Green, Al [TX-9] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Langevin, James R. [RI-2] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-18] - 9/18/2007

    Rep Lungren, Daniel E. [CA-3] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 9/18/2007
    Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 10/3/2007
    Rep Reichert, David G. [WA-8] - 4/19/2007
    Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 9/18/2007


    S.1959
    Title: A bill to establish the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Collins, Susan M. [ME] (introduced 8/2/2007)

    Latest Major Action: 8/2/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
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    Sen Coleman, Norm [MN] - 8/2/2007

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    JEEZZ O PETE! This dang bill could be used for anything! What's Ted Poe doing on there?
    "This is our culture - fight for it. This is our flag - pick it up. This is our country - take it back." - Congressman Tom Tancredo

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    DemocracyNow and others are fighting against this. They are worried it will shut down protests. I agree it is a worrisome bill but we need to look at it closer.

    I like this part:
    ‘‘( Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liberties of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents.

    However, it should also say that nothing in the law is meant to provide the same protections to others beyond citizens and lawful permanent residents.
    Normally the courts should say that it should be taken at face value, that citizens and LPR's are listed, and others are not, others would not get the protection, but you never, never know. Citizens and LPR's should have further, specific protections.

    The vote in the house was almost total bipartisian for passing it.

    Democrat Republican
    Aye 94% 219 185
    Nays 6 3 3
    No vote 22 10 12

    Tancredo voted Aye.
    Ron Paul was a No Vote.

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    That's because Ron Paul knows how they twist things.
    "This is our culture - fight for it. This is our flag - pick it up. This is our country - take it back." - Congressman Tom Tancredo

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