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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    No, if they are citizens, they can easily get the ID.

    So voter fraud is a legitimate issue!
    Then go sell it in California where you live. We don't live in your state and my state doesn't require it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    And that is their choice. If voting is not that important to them, then it's better if they don't vote.

    You have pages and pages of opinions about that. CAN'T YOU READ?
    YES!! That is their .... choice!!

    Finally, you get it! Their choice is not to vote. That is voter suppression, a reduction in the number of people voting by choice due to a voting policy or requirement causing low voter turn-out, many of them Republicans!! Go win some elections without them. Good luck with that!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! Who said she didn't have an ID when she registered to vote?? Like most people who lose their driver's license for reasons other than being drunks, Mom's driver's license expired after her stroke. Mom registered to vote many years before her stroke.

    Her doctors know her so they probably already have everything they need on file.


    My Doctor's know me...they always ask my ID and insurance card. They have my info on file. So I should refuse to give them the information?

    "And there are exceptions for people who have a reasonable impediment to go get an ID. They sign an affidavit and have to have a document showing proof of residency in that State like a bank statement or utility bill."

    She already has ID and is in the system...expired or not. Like they are going after 70 year old liars. That is not the issue here.

    What percentage of the population in this country has no ID? .00000000000000001 %

    What percentage of the population who are males and want to relive themselves in the ladies room? .00000000000001 % I am not for that either.

    How many non-citizens, illegal aliens have FAKE ID's and vote? MILLIONS


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    My Doctor's know me...they always ask my ID and insurance card. They have my info on file. So I should refuse to give them the information?

    "And there are exceptions for people who have a reasonable impediment to go get an ID. They sign an affidavit and have to have a document showing proof of residency in that State like a bank statement or utility bill."

    She already has ID and is in the system...expired or not. Like they are going after 70 year old liars. That is not the issue here.

    What percentage of the population in this country has no ID? .00000000000000001 %

    What percentage of the population who are males and want to relive themselves in the ladies room? .00000000000001 % I am not for that either.

    How many non-citizens, illegal aliens have FAKE ID's and vote? MILLIONS


    I don't know what your situation is or why you're going to the doctor. I know it's never been an issue for my Mom, and can't think of any possible reason why there ever would be. If you have ID, why would you not present it?

    I think there's a lot of Americans who don't have a photo ID for one reason or another. To register to vote you need your birth certificate or a driver's license whose history tracks back to your birth certificate when you first got your license. So, if you're registered, you're a legal citizen voter and should not be hassled at the polls if you're on their list as registered to vote in that voting district.

    What do you mean by "not going after 70 year old liars"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    YES!! That is their .... choice!!

    Finally, you get it! Their choice is not to vote. That is voter suppression, a reduction in the number of people voting by choice, low voter turn-out, many of them Republicans!! Go win some elections without them. Good luck with that!!

    Well...to date we have no National Voter ID and we have a Republican President and the House and the Senate.

    Nobody was suppressed...the 63 MILLION deplorables got out and voted, changed parties and we won...despite the ILLEGAL ALIENS AND DEAD PEOPLE who voted with NO ID.

    People suppress themselves with their bad attitudes and chip on their shoulder.

    People are in poverty and jail for their bad decisions in life. Did WE suppress them or did they put themselves in that situation.

    We are talking about a PHOTO ID. Not brain surgery!

    I do not want to take that risk again.

    So...how many illegals vote in the next election? 10 million? 20 million?

    You keep saying "many are Republicans"...I do not believe this at all.

    Pass the National Voter ID Law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Why would my Mom be "scrutinized" because she had a stroke and her driver's license expired?
    She is NOT scrutinized...you scrutinized her. There are exemptions and affidavits for people who are unable to get out. There are rules and procedures in place for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    She is NOT scrutinized...you scrutinized her. There are exemptions and affidavits for people who are unable to get out. There are rules and procedures in place for that.
    Then why were you wailing about "who doesn't have a photo ID"?

    I gave you a real example of a real person who is a Republican who doesn't currently have a photo ID because her driver's license expired after an illness. In her circumstance, no photo ID is required for her to vote. If it were, she wouldn't vote. That is just a simple fact of the matter. If she didn't vote because she didn't get a voter ID, then the result is voter suppression, a reduced vote as a result of the new requirement. That's just what it is by definition in our language, and no amount of insults, rudeness, mockery, inquisition or other bad behavior is going to change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    YES!! That is their .... choice!!

    Finally, you get it! Their choice is not to vote. That is voter suppression, a reduction in the number of people voting by choice due to a voting policy or requirement causing low voter turn-out, many of them Republicans!!
    And you want to give illegal aliens "the choice" to vote, if they want to!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I don't know what your situation is or why you're going to the doctor. I know it's never been an issue for my Mom, and can't think of any possible reason why there ever would be. If you have ID, why would you not present it?
    Another Judy diversion!

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    What do you mean by "not going after 70 year old liars"?
    Oh, are you 70? I guess a little sensitive about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I gave you a real example of a real person who is a Republican who doesn't currently have a photo ID because her driver's license expired after an illness. In her circumstance, no photo ID is required for her to vote.
    So it was an irrelevant example!

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    If it were, she wouldn't vote. That is just a simple fact of the matter.
    Her choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Judy
    If she didn't vote because she didn't get a voter ID, then the result is voter suppression, a reduced vote as a result of the new requirement.
    And that would be a good thing if it suppresses voting by non-citizens!

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