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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's still what I said it was, jtdc, which is restriction and suppression of the vote.
    No, you framed it as a inalienable right to vote. IT IS NOT. It is an "earned right", which can be forfeited.
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    No, I didn't. I framed it for what it is, your right to vote and when you take that right away from prisoners and felons, that is a restriction and suppression of the vote. It is NOT an earned right. It is a right that states have chosen to abridge for prisoners and felons, which is a clear-cut restriction of that right to suppress the vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No, I didn't. I framed it for what it is, your right to vote and when you take that right away from prisoners and felons, that is a restriction and suppression of the vote. It is NOT an earned right. It is a right that states have chosen to abridge for prisoners and felons, which is a clear-cut restriction of that right to suppress the vote.
    So I guess we can also assume you don't support the requiring of a photo I.D. for voting?
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    I'm mixed on it, because I know it keeps some citizens from voting, so it's voter suppression and that isn't fair to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I'm mixed on it, because I know it keeps some citizens from voting, so it's voter suppression and that isn't fair to them.
    Voting has been erroneously pushed into the category of a civic duty. It should be a right, but as with everything that has come out our goverment, there's a full implementation of another agenda waiting just below the "surface of the typeface".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    So I guess we can also assume you don't support the requiring of a photo I.D. for voting?
    I know I couldn't stand on an evil evolution to the old poll tax: Voter ID. I refuse to stand by such a policy.

    If the ID was free for the people and hardlined into the state budget, I would be in favor of an ID to vote.

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    It's not just the cost, it's the hassle of it if you don't have a driver's license. It's especially hard on older people and even young people who don't have a driver's license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's not just the cost, it's the hassle of it if you don't have a driver's license. It's especially hard on older people and even young people who don't have a driver's license.
    I understand your position clearly. I wouldn't have a (false) leg to stand on, if the 24th Amedment had not passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I'm mixed on it, because I know it keeps some citizens from voting, so it's voter suppression and that isn't fair to them.


    You oppose voter I.D., you oppose the death penalty, you support the legalization of all schedule 1 drugs, you support homosexual marriage, you support homosexual adoptions, you oppose the Republican Party platform that affirms the rights of states and the federal government not to recognize same-sex marriage, you support homosexuals and transgenders in the military, you support all abortions under all circumstances, including late term, you support federal funding of planned parenthood, you support on demand abortions for illegal alien teenagers, you support prisoner voting, you oppose the Patriot Act, you support affirmative action, you oppose nationally mandated E-Verify, you oppose school/locker room/sports field prayer, etc., etc., etc.

    I don't think I got any of these wrong, but if I did, I'll apologize in advance.

    Are you sure you're a Republican?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No, I didn't. I framed it for what it is, your right to vote and when you take that right away from prisoners and felons, that is a restriction and suppression of the vote.
    A right given by the Constitution, with restrictions! It is not a right given by a creator.

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    It is a right that states have chosen to abridge for prisoners and felons, which is a clear-cut restriction of that right to suppress the vote.
    IT IS A FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL PRIVILEGE, WHICH AS YOU NOTED THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE THE "RIGHT" TO WITHHOLD!
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