Beer Tax

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05-22-2009, 07:19 PM
USAFVeteran

Beer Tax

O.K. This midwestern boy is GETTING REALLY PISSED OFF!!! I grew up on BEER :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

BEER DRINKERS - Let's contact these bastards below and stop this nonsense!!!

BID FOR 145% BEER-TAX HIKE

May 21, 2009

WASHINGTON -- Drunk on power and dazed by ambition, members of Congress have stumbled upon a novel way to keep their spending binge rolling -- and leave American taxpayers with the hangover.

Under a Senate proposal, Congress would raise the federal excise tax on beer by 145 percent to more than $3 a case.

Uncle Sam also would snatch an additional $7 on a case of wine -- a staggering increase of 233 percent and an additional 20 percent on hard liquor sales.

"Buzz-kill doesn't even begin to describe this invasion," said a GOP congressional aide.

Not content just sticking it to alcohol drinkers, the lawmakers also proposed slapping new taxes on soda.

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) were quick to say they do not necessarily support the proposals they pitched. They were tossing them out there only as options for paying for President Obama's proposed massive government takeover of the health- care industry.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05212009/ne ... 170336.htm
05-22-2009, 07:37 PM
AirborneSapper7

theyre going to bleed you dry one way or onother... first was the smokers and you didnt say anything, then the health care and the cap and trade

suck it down beer and wine drinkers... Obama and the New World Order needs your Monopoly Money
05-22-2009, 07:39 PM
USAFVeteran

I'm against them taxing my cigars, too :evil:
05-22-2009, 07:46 PM
wilma1

They reward illegal activites and illegals yet punish ANYTHING LEGAL. Cigarettes, soda,cigars.beer whatever. It is still legal. Yet illegals getting millions in healthcare,education,free food (on taxpayer's dime) no thats ok. We had really etter wakeup. What the heck is going on????? So bass akwards
05-22-2009, 07:47 PM
vortex

One interviewee on CNBC quoted Ronald Reagan: if it moves, tax it; if it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving subsidize it. We are well on that path.
05-22-2009, 07:53 PM
USAFVeteran

Illegals seem to get sll the benefits. What crap!!!
05-22-2009, 09:54 PM
redpony353

If we dont stand up to these people, they will continue on this path. Dont get suprised if they start taxing milk because it has unhealthy chemicals and hormones in it.....to pay for the healthcare costs associated with milk. Dont get suprised. Hey, you let them do it with cigarettes. Oh ya....even though cigarette smokers actually do not cost more overall because they die younger. It is a lie. And taxing cola? It is just sugar. It is not the sugar but how much you drink in a given time. There is really nothing wrong with sugar. This will snowball into every single thing. All they have to do is say they did a "study" lol....and the tax comes right behind it....lol....for the children....to protect the children. It is all bs.
05-22-2009, 10:20 PM
vortex

I am beginning to think that the major healthcare problems in this country are due to genetically modified crops, imports of all kinds of things grown in sewage water, and all the nifty chemicals we use, plus all the illegal migrant workers who have never gone through health screenings to see if they should be handling foodstuff. There is too much wrong: the greed of our healthcare system and greed of the food producers--it just is about nothing but money.
05-22-2009, 10:26 PM
jshhmr

Now this is wrong. WHEN I get to buy beer, it is expensive Belgian beer, so an addition fee is out of the question.

How about we get rid of illegal immigrants instead? Or how about legalizing marijuana and taxing the crap out of it? Is our government completely ignorant? Don't answer that :D
05-22-2009, 10:41 PM
redpony353

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I am beginning to think that the major healthcare problems in this country are due to genetically modified crops, imports of all kinds of things grown in sewage water, and all the nifty chemicals we use, plus all the illegal migrant workers who have never gone through health screenings to see if they should be handling foodstuff. There is too much wrong: the greed of our healthcare system and greed of the food producers--it just is about nothing but money

I am inclined to agree with you vortex. As kids we ate tons of sugar and we were healthy and skinny as bean poles. I dont think soda is to blame for this. Or even candy or snacks. Why is it that kids now are getting fat from this, and in the past kids did not get fat from it? Makes no sense. It seems to me that the food producers are systematically poisoning us and then blaming our eating habits. But this was never a problem in the past.
05-22-2009, 10:53 PM
redpony353

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Originally Posted by jshhmr

Now this is wrong. WHEN I get to buy beer, it is expensive Belgian beer, so an addition fee is out of the question.

How about we get rid of illegal immigrants instead? Or how about legalizing marijuana and taxing the crap out of it? Is our government completely ignorant? Don't answer that :D

There should not be additional tax on anything. They already gouge us for regular sales tax and that is more than enough. The budget problems are being caused by corruption, mismanagement and waste. They keep asking for more and more and we get less and less.
05-23-2009, 12:06 AM
vortex

Agree with you, red. As a kid it was a treat at the neighbors for me too have Kool-Aid, and I would have to tromp to the store in summer heat to get a candy bar. I was never plunked in front of the TV and we had no home computers or computer games (Pong was absolutey amazing to me). We played like maniacs in the neighborhood, and I had never seen a corn dog until I was cutting high school and went to the Maryland beach. In those days, the majority of ingredients in that corn dog, including the stick, were probably produced in this country. These days we don't know crap about anything in food and where it came from.
05-23-2009, 12:14 AM
vortex

jshhmr, BELGIAN BEER? Fie on you! You should be drinking American beer with the hops being imported from wherever and the malt being genetically modified to be Round-Up ready. :wink:
05-23-2009, 12:37 AM
jshhmr

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Originally Posted by vortex

jshhmr, BELGIAN BEER? Fie on you! You should be drinking American beer with the hops being imported from wherever and the malt being genetically modified to be Round-Up ready. :wink:

I USED to be able to drink Bud etc. Then I went to Belgium for 2 days. Once I got back, I popped open a Bud, took a sip, and nearly threw up. My taste for beer changed. I do like American micro-brews, but only one brewery here in America comes close to a TRUE Belgian. Ommegang brewery in New York makes great Belgians. Their "Three Philosophers" is better than most Belgians. Very dark with lots of flavor. The New Belgium brewery in Fort Collins Co tries very hard, but they end up being a little too watery. The lowest quality of beer that I can drink is Sam Adams.
05-23-2009, 01:08 AM
MW

USAFVeteran wrote:

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O.K. This midwestern boy is GETTING REALLY PISSED OFF!!! I grew up on BEER

Did you have it in your breakfast cereal as a child? :lol:

Jshhmr wrote:

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I USED to be able to drink Bud etc. Then I went to Belgium for 2 days. Once I got back, I popped open a Bud, took a sip, and nearly threw up. My taste for beer changed. I do like American micro-brews, but only one brewery here in America comes close to a TRUE Belgian. Ommegang brewery in New York makes great Belgians. Their "Three Philosophers" is better than most Belgians. Very dark with lots of flavor. The New Belgium brewery in Fort Collins Co tries very hard, but they end up being a little too watery. The lowest quality of beer that I can drink is Sam Adams.

Wasn't it you that said, in another thread, that you had a blood pressure problem? Well, alcohol intake clearly increases blood pressure. 8O

We shouldn't be surprised because we knew going in that Obama's increase in social programs was going to mean some serious increases in future taxes. Supposedly, the Obama administrations planned health care program is going to cost trillions of dollars during the first five years. I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly, the plan was going to cost 15 trillion dollars during the first five years. :cry:

Vortex wrote:

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One interviewee on CNBC quoted Ronald Reagan: if it moves, tax it; if it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving subsidize it. We are well on that path.

Are you sure he wasn't referring to liberal philosophy. :)
05-23-2009, 09:42 AM
USAFVeteran

jshmr,

Sam Adams Boston Lager is the BEST BEER!!! It's the ONLY American Beer I drink!

Boston Lager - Gold Medals
IBC Top 50 Beer, Monde Selection (2006, 2007), DLG Germany (2006), World Beer Championships (2006)

Sam Adams Light - Gold Medals
Monde Selection (2006, 2007), LA County Fair (2006, 2007), World Beer Championships (2006)

Gold medal Boston Lager
Stockholm Beer Competition
Stockholm, Sweden

Gold Medal Boston lager
Helsinki Beer Festival
Helsinki, Finland

Best In Class - Octoberfest. Gold medals - Octoberfest, Millennium, CHocolate Bock. Sivler medals - 2 Silver Boston Lager, 2 Silver Light, 2 Silver Octoberfest, Double Bock, Pale Ale
Australian International Beer Awards
Melbourne, Australia

Bronze Medals - Boston lager, 3 Bronze winter lager, Vienna Lager, Wiess Bier, Scotch Ale, Utopias, Triple Bock,Hefeweizen, White Ale
Australian International Beer Awards
Melbourne, Australia

SILVER Medals - Boston Lager, Light, Weiss Bier, Hefeweizen, Scotch Ale, Utopias, Cranberry Lambic.
Monde Selection
Brussels, Belgium
05-23-2009, 02:33 PM
jshhmr

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAFVeteran

jshmr,

Sam Adams Boston Lager is the BEST BEER!!! It's the ONLY American Beer I drink!

Boston Lager - Gold Medals
IBC Top 50 Beer, Monde Selection (2006, 2007), DLG Germany (2006), World Beer Championships (2006)

Sam Adams Light - Gold Medals
Monde Selection (2006, 2007), LA County Fair (2006, 2007), World Beer Championships (2006)

Gold medal Boston Lager
Stockholm Beer Competition
Stockholm, Sweden

Gold Medal Boston lager
Helsinki Beer Festival
Helsinki, Finland

Best In Class - Octoberfest. Gold medals - Octoberfest, Millennium, CHocolate Bock. Sivler medals - 2 Silver Boston Lager, 2 Silver Light, 2 Silver Octoberfest, Double Bock, Pale Ale
Australian International Beer Awards
Melbourne, Australia

Bronze Medals - Boston lager, 3 Bronze winter lager, Vienna Lager, Wiess Bier, Scotch Ale, Utopias, Triple Bock,Hefeweizen, White Ale
Australian International Beer Awards
Melbourne, Australia

SILVER Medals - Boston Lager, Light, Weiss Bier, Hefeweizen, Scotch Ale, Utopias, Cranberry Lambic.
Monde Selection
Brussels, Belgium

Darn right! Sam Adams makes better Oktoberfest than German breweries IMO. Sam Adams has so much flavor it makes Bud and others taste like beer flavored water.
05-23-2009, 07:16 PM
USAFVeteran

jshmr,

I took your post wrong. At first, I thought you were Sam Adams is crappy beer but now that I re-read your initial post, I see my error. I also like Sam Adams Lite but it's not offered over here in Japan. I don't however like their special seasonal brands.

Sam Adams Light®

The Boston Beer Company once again revolutionized the beer industry in 2002 with the introduction of Sam Adams Light. Although there is more light beer brewed in the U.S. than regular beer, consumers had lacked a truly flavorful light beer until the arrival of Sam Adams Light. This brew balances a clean, flavorful taste and smooth finish. Its bright amber color and creamy head are the complex result of using the world’s best ingredients and insisting only on perfection.

Sam Adams’ brewers create the light beer using only the four classic ingredients of beer: water, yeast, hops and malt. The Spalt Spalter hops used in this brew are among the world’s most expensive and are grown only in the Spalt region of Germany. The brewers of Sam Adams Light use only two-row malt and 100% Noble hops in the recipe. Sam Adams Light uses no adjuncts, is 4% alcohol by volume and has less than 124 calories.

The brew is delicious when paired with fish, chicken or spicy fare and as an ingredient in barbecued seafood.

Samuel Adams Light's Award Winning Taste

* 2004 World Beer Cup
o Bronze in Best American-Style "Light" Amber Lager
* 2006 World Beer Cup
o Bronze in Best American-Style "Light" Amber Lager
05-23-2009, 09:50 PM
vortex

:roll: The only beer I kick back with these days, and the only one my budget will support is Milwaukee's Best Light, even though in Europe I loved Pilsner Urquell. Budweiser has always had the bouquet of formaldehyde.
And MW, my high blood pressure is hereditary for the most part. Doctors always told me to stay away from sodium and I did as much as I could. Latest blood test showed that I had too little sodium in the blood. :roll: Meanwhile, my elderly mom cannot have sodium nor potassium which makes for some interesting meals. :roll: