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12-05-2007, 01:48 AM #61
From their description and the last names, I am 90% sure that the men are Dominican.
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12-05-2007, 02:00 AM #62Originally Posted by LawEnforcerServe Bush with his letter of resignation.
See you at the signing!!
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12-05-2007, 02:03 AM #63
With names that end in "z" they certainly aren't from Nevis or Trinidad, that's for sure.
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12-05-2007, 02:46 AM #64Originally Posted by Shapka"We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to racism, not because it is racism, but because it works." --- Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant.
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12-05-2007, 05:13 AM #65
Mr. Horne is a homeowner who was protecting HIS PROPERTY.
Malik Abdul Asshat, Kwanele X-prick and the rest of their merry brigade of black supremacist imbeciles are vigilantes. Very stupid, unintimidating vigilantes at that.Reporting without fear or favor-American Rattlesnake
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12-05-2007, 05:50 AM #66Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic
I heard the family members being briefly interviewed on Fox. They said the same thing----through tears----as the Black Panther guy-----that these guys were doing wrong and deserved to go to jail-----but Mr. Horne acted like a vigilante----being the prosecutor, judge, and executioner."We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to racism, not because it is racism, but because it works." --- Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant.
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12-05-2007, 05:57 AM #67Originally Posted by Shapka
You are right that the Black Panthers DEFINITELY should not have showed up in that community. Showing up at the courthouse to protest would have been okay, but not in the neighborhood to intimidate.
However, I cannot agree that these men should have been shot and killed in the manner that they were-----ESPECIALLY now hearing that they were both shot in the back-----which means that they were not lunging at him----as Mr. Horne claimed.
If you lived in Texas-----and your 18 year old kid and a bunch of his friends decided to break into someone's house to steal their nintendo------would you still support Mr. Horne's actions if your kid was shot and killed?? Sure, it is definitely true that they should not be stealing, but does that mean that they deserve to die over it???"We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to racism, not because it is racism, but because it works." --- Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant.
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12-05-2007, 10:51 AM #68
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Joe Horn was basically placing the criminals under a Citizens Arrest to await the cops. He told them not to move. They moved. He shot. Were these two criminals actually shot in the back, or were they shot in the chest and the bullets traveled thru to their backs? Unless I see a copy of the Coroner's report, I don't believe a WORD the MSM spews.
He was well within his rights to try to detain the criminals. Sometimes you have to make split second decisions and it seems this was one of those times.
Mr. Horn has already shown how upset this whole situation has made him too, being an ELDERLY citizen and all. His own remorse for having to do the right thing should be enough evidence to everyone that he wasn't looking to kill anyone.Proud wife of an undocumented ICE agent.
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12-05-2007, 10:59 AM #69
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This morning on Channel 11 news in Houston, it was reported that these 2 men had documents stating they were Puerto Rican. However, these documents were false and they were from Columbia. There is also a task force investigating this as it is believed they were part of a ring that was tafficking stolen arms and obtaining driver's licenses using false Puerto Rican paperwork.
Here is the story.
DPS was watching burglars shot by Horn
10:16 PM CST on Tuesday, December 4, 2007
By Rucks Russell / 11 News
Rucks Russell's 11 News report
Even before their deaths prompted a series of heated debates about the use of deadly force, detectives at the Department of Public Safety had their eye on Diego Ortiz and Miguel Dejesus.
The two were shot and killed by Joe Horn, a Pasadena man who thought they were burglarizing his neighbor’s home last month.
According to a DPS memo obtained by 11 News, the department was investigating the use of Puerto Rican birth certificates by Colombians seeking to obtain Texas driver’s licenses.
Both Ortiz and Dejesus had applied for licenses. Dejesus listed his country of origin as Puerto Rico, but both men were Colombian.
Apparently, the DPS is investigating hundreds of immigrants who may have used illegal papers to get Texas licenses.
But that’s not all.
A much wider probe has been launched into an organized syndicate of Colombians who are engaged in illegal weapons sales and home break-ins – just like the one Ortiz and Dejesus were involved in last month in Pasadena.
That day, Joe Horn and a shotgun stood in the way of the suspected thieves, but in many instances the suspects have gotten away.
The ATF, ICE and DPS have reportedly formed a task force to bring the crime wave to an end.
The burglars are said to be very effective at what they do, conducting extensive surveillance on their targets before striking. Some of the suspects are extremely violent.
The investigations have already led to several arrests.
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/ ... 89aae.htmlTo stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men. Abraham Lincoln
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12-05-2007, 11:37 AM #70
The REAL Dept. of Homeland Security is a well-armed citizenry.
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