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    Let me guess ceyaotl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marineinspector
    Quote Originally Posted by ceyaotl
    I am proud to be Chicano and I do not dispute that and I am also proud to be an American as I have said you can not separate the two.
    I've got no problem with you being proud of your heritage, what I do have a problem with is calling yourself Chicano. Any use of the term coined and used by the leftist/socialist Cesar Chavez bothers me, but it does make me understand why you support the President on his leftist/socialist agenda to grant amnesty to criminals. Unfortunately, Bush is a RINO.

    I do agree that going after employers is the key to this fight against illegal immigration, but I will never agree to amnesty for criminals. It sends the wrong message and is a slap in the face to every legal immigrant and every immigrant that is currently waiting in line.
    Get over it. I am this and that is it. So now the Republican President is a Leftist when it fits you? HA!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubayons
    Let me guess ceyaotl.
    You are also a member of LuLac
    As a matter of fact I am a Council President. I do not however agree with all LULAC speaks out on. I am not very well liked by those that do not like my anti-left stances. I don't really care. I made President for my ability to organize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceyaotl
    So now the Republican President is a Leftist when it fits you?
    It has nothing to do with fitting me; it has to do with his actions and politics. If you want and support the leftist/socialist agenda, then you are a leftist/socialist in those areas.

    Bush is very much a socialist. He supports big government and a few other leftist and socialist views. That’s is what fits him, not me.

    Amnesty for criminals is not a conservative position and goes against all conservative principals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    Now, why is DD's minion over here defending her this late in the game? Must be a lame distraction tactic or the OBL is upset about our recent sucessful campaigns so they are trolling our boards. Glad you noticed!

    A well written congratulatory letter would have been better received!

    Dixie
    Hey Dixie, don't flatter yourself or think you are on top of your game. You missed it by a mile. I am no ones minion for one and I am not defending her I am simply state the facts that all of you missed or refuse to see due to your head being in your duffle bag. If there is a lame distraction it is your distraction from the issue by making it about DD and defending SOS. To relate all those that disagree with you to OBL is so very lame it makes me laugh. You are sure you are not kidding? HA! Your board is a success due to the fact that there are many that hide behind the constitution in order to get there way. The hard left is notorious for that tactic and in that aspect you are no different.
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    ceyaotl - If you have never been Chicano then you can never understand what we encounter in our lives and you should not speak from a place you know nothing about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceyaotl
    hide behind the constitution
    That says all I need to know. The Constitution is what makes America, America! It’s not something you can hide behind, it is what it is.

    The fact that you do not support nor defend the Constitution speaks volumes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    Now, why is DD's minion over here defending her this late in the game? Must be a lame distraction tactic or the OBL is upset about our recent sucessful campaigns so they are trolling our boards. Glad you noticed!

    A well written congratulatory letter would have been better received!

    Dixie
    I think he is just bored. Their web site is about dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loservillelabor
    I think I do know what is wrong. And I'm sorry. Hope you can make it to just "American" and be proud.
    There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, but you can't put it before being an American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marineinspector
    Quote Originally Posted by ceyaotl
    So now the Republican President is a Leftist when it fits you?
    It has nothing to do with fitting me; it has to do with his actions and politics. If you want and support the leftist/socialist agenda, then you are a leftist/socialist in those areas.

    Bush is very much a socialist. He supports big government and a few other leftist and socialist views. That’s is what fits him, not me.

    Amnesty for criminals is not a conservative position and goes against all conservative principals.

    You seem to be in the dark. And here I thought all you dudes here were informed activist.

    If Bush was a socialist he would not have passed the bills he has passed and nor would he have went to war as good socialist run from any fight so as to keep the money for the government programs. Unless of course they are killing helpless peasants that have very little or no weapons (i.e. Cuba). Also not one Socialist/Communist government has the upward moving numbers that this economy has. You should really look at the state of the union before you make closed cut and dry statements like you did. The President is a great President that has led by his belief in what is right and wrong. He has pissed everyone off and that means he is doing his job. He has not bowed the hard right nor the hard left. He is a smart man that everyone in underestimating. He and Rove like it that way.

    The border needs to be secured that is no argument the employers need to be held responsible and the Guest Worker Program needs to be written into law. It stops the illegal question, makes instant tax payers and makes the employers pay what they should and brings fare competition back to the job markets. Not all 11 million will stay, that is the misunderstanding. I would be willing to bet that only 7 to 8 million will stay. If there are no jobs for them and there are not places they can get help then they will gladly catch a ride back home.

    I have spoken to Mexican American Democrats. As a son, nephew, Family friend and so on. I was able to extract the thoughts of these older Mexican Americans without letting them know that I was digging for political information and the bottom line is that they too are not happy with the cost to our tax pocket. These are die hard Dems. I mean they are down right upset they are footing the bills for people they don’t even know. So in that aspect I understand and I see there is a hidden attitude. Believe me I know for a fact that these people would not come out and speak against the Democratic Party in public. I think if there was a vote that the hard left would be surprised at the outcome.

    Life and politics is about compromise. As long as we are not compromising National Security I think the Guest Worker Program is doable.
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