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    British students pushed out of universities by EU applicants

    British students pushed out of universities by EU applicants

    British sixth formers could be "crowded out" of university places because of an increase in applications from candidates from the rest of Europe, according to vice-chancellors.

    By Julie Henry, Education Correspondent
    Published: 9:00PM BST 13 Jun 2009

    An unprecedented surge in applications by young people to start higher education in the UK in September has seen the number of British candidates rise by 8.8 per cent from last year.

    Applications from the rest of the European Union are rising even more quickly, up by 16.4 per cent.

    'Yet even though 43,367 more Britons and 3,576 more Europeans are chasing places, the Government has set a controversial 10,000 cap on the number of additional places available across the sector.

    A combination of the cap, the rise in EU applicants and a rule that prevents universities from discriminating in favour of homegrown talent means that British sixth formers risk losing places to well-qualified rivals from abroad.

    Students from the EU are funded by the Government in the same way as British students, and count in an identical way towards universities' student quotas.

    "We have never seen anything like the upsurge in applications," said Malcolm Grant, the provost of University College London.

    "It is across all sectors, postgraduate, international and even our conventional UK and EU undergraduate applications.

    "EU students have to be treated the same. There is a crowding out possibility – if you take an EU student it is a place that is not available to a UK student.

    "We get superb overseas students, especially from France and Germany, and we must treat them on the same basis and offer them places on the same basis.

    "They turn up here and they are dead keen to have come to London on their own initiative. They have studied English in a formal way and are pretty impressive."

    The number of EU students studying in the UK is already on the rise. Between 2006/07 and 2007/08 there was a six per cent increase to 112,150, while enrolments of Britons actually fell by one per cent.

    Over the same period, the number of non-EU overseas students increased by four per cent.

    The squeeze on places this year will mean even greater competition for courses. It is estimated that as many as 80,000 applicants could fail to find a place.

    Les Ebdon, the vice-chancellor of Bedfordshire University, who has condemned ministers for restricting higher education at a time of recession, warned that if British students are turned away, while EU students win places, it could lead to a backlash that mirrors the "British jobs for British workers" row.

    "Institutions are not allowed to discriminate against any student in the EU," said Professor Ebdon, chairman of the Million+ group of newer universities.

    "And for EU students, the UK is an increasingly popular destination.

    "But in a situation when you have increased applications, a cap on places and few places through clearing it will be difficult for the public to understand why a Polish student can get a place but their own kids can't."

    EU nationals face the same £3,145-a-year tuition fees as their UK counterparts and are entitled to the same grants and subsidised loans, to cover the cost of fees and living expenses.

    Non-EU overseas students are charged full tuition costs by universities, which average £10,000 a year for arts students, and they do not count against Government student quotas.

    Since 2006, EU citizens studying in Britain have been eligible to take out low interest loans to pay for tuition fees, in the same way as British students.

    They are supposed to pay back what they owe when they graduate. But figures published earlier this year revealed that among the 2,240 EU students who have so far become eligible to start paying back such loans, some 1,580 were not doing so, leaving taxpayers with a £3.8 million bill.

    David Lammy, the universities minister, claims that the figure is misleading because a proportion of the 1,580 students will have changed courses and not yet graduated, or are earning below the salary at which loans have to be repaid - £15,000 in the UK, or an equivalent level in their homeland.

    Students from the EU currently studying currently studying at British universities have borrowed, between them, a further £124 million to cover tuition fees and living costs.

    It is feared that many who return to their home countries will never repay the money because there is no repayment mechanism outside of the UK.

    The Student Loan Company has to rely on students informing them of their earnings and making their own arrangements, although it said measures to track EU students will be in place by April next year.

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    Are American Students getting Displaced by Undocumented Students? YES!

    ALIPAC: Lifting ban on illegal immigrants may profit
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    Everyone needs to understand what the non college route undocumented students are doing to the Class Ranking of American Students trying to get into American Colleges.

    There needs to be a class action lawsuit against the public school systems for defrauding American Students/Citizens out of College.

    I firmly think the Dream Act is trying to do a cover up of the mess our government is in. The government is trying to make it legal the abuse to American Students with the Dream Act.
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    Does this mean that British students who wish to pursue a higher education will be forced to move to a different EU country to attend a university??? This is completely asinine!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinamtnwoman
    Does this mean that British students who wish to pursue a higher education will be forced to move to a different EU country to attend a university??? This is completely asinine!!!
    They would have to be Bi-Lingual as the students from France and Germany are. So it would seem that another English speaking society is being punished for knowing only one language.
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