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    Cars, made in Mexico.Lots of Cars!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/21/busin ... REOVERNEWS
    DaimlerChrysler plant in Toluca, Mexico, turns out Chrysler PT Cruisers, made to order, for 60 countries.

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    By ELISABETH MALKIN
    Published: July 21, 2006
    MEXICO CITY, July 20 — For Mexico, the recent groundbreaking of a new $650 million auto factory was worth celebrating. President Vicente Fox and other dignitaries attended the event. Local executives from General Motors, the investor, flew in to the central state of San Luis Potosí, where the assembly plant now under construction is expected to eventually employ up to 1,800 people and churn out as many as 160,000 compact cars a year.

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    Toyota’s Leader Expresses No Interest in Forming Alliance With G.M. (July 21, 2006) During the last dozen years, many foreign manufacturers rushed to build factories in states like Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee, inspiring the sobriquet Detroit South. Now Mexico is eyeing that nickname.

    G.M., struggling with its own problems, did little to publicize the new factory outside Mexico. But while any talk of increasing production elsewhere or adding low-wage jobs in Mexico risks creating animosity in the United States, there is no hiding the relentless advance of the auto industry here.

    Automotive production in Mexico is expected to hit record levels this year, surpassing two million cars, as automakers pour billions of dollars of new investment into their Mexican factories.

    The expansion, being fueled by Mexico’s top five automakers — General Motors, Ford Motor, DaimlerChrysler, Nissan and Volkswagen — stands in contrast to the plans by G.M. and Ford to cut 60,000 jobs in the United States and close two dozen North American plants through 2012.

    The reason for Mexico’s new wave of growth is twofold. First, it is next to the world’s largest auto market, allowing greater production integration because auto companies can easily ship cars and parts by truck and rail.

    And second, it is still cheap to operate here compared with the United States, where unionized workers earn at least $27 an hour and benefits can double or even triple the total cost. By comparison, Mexico’s typical auto industry wage of about $3.50 an hour for an experienced worker — which doubles with benefits — looks like a bargain.

    Changing tastes are also starting to work in Mexico’s favor. As Americans’ love affair with fuel-thirsty S.U.V.’s wanes, some analysts believe that Mexico’s low costs make the country the natural place for automakers to assemble the next generation of smaller, cheaper cars.

    “In the big picture,’’ asked Greg Gardner, an analyst with Harbour Consulting in Troy, Mich., “can Ford, G.M. and Chrysler build medium and small cars in the United States and survive?”

    Other forces are also at play: Mexico’s long track record of producing cars and trucks for the American market; a trained and experienced work force; a critical mass of auto parts suppliers who have migrated here and now produce $24 billion worth of parts annually with 430,000 workers. And more auto parts investments are coming, threatening jobs in the United States.

    Automakers have spent $4 billion in Mexico since the beginning of 2005, the government says. They are introducing new models — from mega-trucks to sporty compacts — assembled in factories retooled to match the sophisticated plants north of the border.

    New investments could raise Mexico’s production to three million cars by 2012, depending on growth in the United States, Mexico’s main market, according to Emilio Mosso, an official at the Economy Ministry. In part, the boom is a rebound after sales slumped for aging models made in Mexico, and automakers halted production to prepare for new models. Exports are up 50 percent in the first six months of the year from the same period last year. About three-quarters of production goes abroad, mostly to the United States. And analysts say that figure could rise.

    “When companies look at where to put a new plant, Mexico is starting to compete a lot more with Detroit South,” said Gabriel Renero, a consultant at Deloitte in Mexico City. “They are finding a very attractive work force in this country.”

    In the last year, American automakers have all introduced a variety of new models from their Mexican assembly plants. “Being able to produce any kind of vehicle looks good in the global market,’’ said Mr. Renero.

    George Magliano, director of automotive research for the Americas at Global Insight, a consulting firm, said more models were probable.

    “There’s been a conscious effort to put them here to begin with and that has accelerated in the last six months,” said Mr. Magliano. The automakers, he predicted, “will expand their thinking in Mexico.”
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    Mr. Denero of Deloitte said, “We would expect that some other companies will replace production plants in Mexico in the medium term” to sell to the nation’s growing domestic market as well as to American car buyers.

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    Toyota’s Leader Expresses No Interest in Forming Alliance With G.M. (July 21, 2006) Under the North American Free Trade Agreement, Mexican-made cars enter the United States market without duties, essentially erasing the border for the auto industry. Free trade agreements with other countries, including the European Union, most of Latin America and Japan, mean that cars from a plant in Mexico can be shipped to much of the world with low tariffs or none.

    Mexico’s share of North American production is still fairly modest, about 11.8 percent this year based on earlier forecasts, up from 10 percent last year, said Tina Jantzi, manager of North American forecasting at JD Power Automotive Forecasting in Troy, Mich. She expects that figure to reach 14 percent by 2012.

    Much of the industry expects a pickup in sales of smaller cars. The question is how sharp that rise will be and how much of that production will come to Mexico. “This is the difference between two and three million units” in Mexico, said Mr. Magliano of Global Insight. Any decision to move assembly plant jobs to Mexico raises awkward questions in the United States, which explains why automakers are all quick to point to their far larger investments back home.

    G.M., for example, is building a new plant in Lansing, Mich.; Ford underscored last month that Mexico accounted for just 5 percent of its North American investment, about the same as Canada. A Chrysler spokesman said that of $9.9 billion the company had spent in North America since 2003, Mexico received just $1.2 billion.

    As for G.M., it sought to play down the opening of its new plant, not even issuing a news release on its Web site, which is packed with company news. The factory will sell its cars mostly in Mexico, according to Stefan Weinmann, a G.M. spokesman in Detroit. The car will probably be a compact, because compacts account for about half of Mexico’s 1.13 million-vehicle annual market.

    Mr. Weinmann said that Mexico’s expanding local market, where G.M. has a 20 percent share, was the main reason for building the plant.

    Still, the plant sits on the main rail line to the United States, and the question remains how much of its production will find its way to American consumers at some point. The company says exports will be limited but declines to say where they will go.

    DaimlerChrylser and its suppliers are spending $1 billion at its plant in Toluca, outside Mexico City, which now assembles the PT Cruiser for 60 countries. The new flexible manufacturing scheme, an approach that Chrysler uses throughout its North American plants, means the plant will be able to add new models quite easily to the existing assembly line.

    If demand warrants it, the plant could increase output by a third, said its manager, José Luis Chaparro.

    Already, the plant is designed so that each PT Cruiser rolls off the line made to order for the customer, down to details like fog lights, leather seats and chrome hub caps. Nearby parts suppliers deliver pieces only hours before they go into the car.

    Ford’s plans are less clear. Last month, Detroit newspapers published articles based on what appeared to be a leaked internal memo suggesting that Ford was planning extensive investments in Mexico. In an e-mail statement, Said Deep, a Ford spokesman, wrote that reports saying the investment would reach $9 billion were inaccurate. A few days after those reports, Ford announced it would invest in its two Mexican assembly plants and its engine plant to strengthen its manufacturing presence in Mexico, though it did not say how much it would spend.

    One of those plants, at Cuautitlán outside of Mexico City, is operating at less than half its capacity. Mr. Deep would not comment on Ford’s plans for the operation. Most analysts predict that Ford will eventually put another low-cost plant in Mexico.

    Nissan’s new compact model, the Versa, rolled off the assembly line last month at its Mexico plant after a $1.3 million investment from the automaker and its suppliers. The car, one of a wave of new small cars in the United States, will be in American dealer lots later this summer.

    Volkswagen, which produces Jettas for the global market at its plant in Puebla, some 60 miles west of Mexico City, will begin production of the Jetta station wagon there in January, according to a spokesman, Thomas Karig.

    And analysts expect that Toyota may also decide to put a second plant in Mexico, where its share of the local market has been growing.

    Despite the forecasts, Mexico’s position is far from assured. Mr. Magliano of Global Insight said that the Mexican government needed to upgrade its infrastructure, cut bureaucracy and invest more in technology if it expected to compete successfully in a global auto market.

    Mexico “has got to be a better place to operate,” Mr. Magliano said. “And we’ve seen some of it, but not a lot of it.”

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    I'll bet that within a few years, there will be no cars built here, and no car parts either!!!
    Do not vote for Party this year, vote for America and American workers!

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    They want cheap labor to produce cheap products and charge us big $. I saw a pick-up truck the other day with huge holes in the side of the bed, busted to pieces, not dents, but literally busted to pieces because of the cheap fiberglass bed. This must have been a $35,000-$40,000 truck. I don't think any company should be allowed to take their business outside the U.S. and then import their products back to the U.S. to sell. And if the company is not located in the U.S. then they don't have to pay taxes here either. So by moving outside the U.S. and shipping their products back in not only do they get cheap labor and high prices for their products but they don't have to pay taxes in this country either. Americans need to stop buying these cheap products for high $. I don't need to drive a new car and I don't need to buy cheap products from Mexico or China, or any other country. Notice how the cheap junk products are going up in price, when they think they have the market cornered then they will raise the prices and we will be paying outrageous prices for cheap products from China and other countries. The same prices we use to get good quality made in the USA products for. I want products made in my own country. Anyone that has studied history has learned that one of the biggest mistakes a country can make is to take all the manufacturing out of the country. If you ever have to go to war you will be in big trouble. They say we are to be a service country, what is a service country? A country that only has jobs in restaurants, stores, transportation and government jobs? We all know that most of these jobs don't pay that well. I am sick of their plan. Americans have the power to stop this, every country in the world wants to get their products into this country to sell them to us, but we don't have to buy them. If they want to take their business outside the U.S. then they don't want my business anymore and I don't have to give it to them.

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    Sawdust,

    I emailed Ford a while back, that I hoped they had good luck selling their high priced vehicles to Mexicans, since everyone in the USA will be without a good paying job.

    Also told them they go down there and get cheap labor and expect American's to pay for their over priced cars!

    The Fed., Bernanke, said we need to learn new skills, higher level of skills....why? They would only outsource these new skilled jobs too!

    Our own government is killing off the America workers!

    If we are to become a service industry, it will only be illegal or new immigrants filling those jobs, as they are now!

    Where does our government expect true American's to find a good job?

    Anyone, including Lou Dobbs, that keeps telling us these horror stories, never tells us what American's can do about it.

    It just gets to you so much you feel like storming the gates of the White House.
    Do not vote for Party this year, vote for America and American workers!

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    And second, it is still cheap to operate here compared with the United States, where unionized workers earn at least $27 an hour and benefits can double or even triple the total cost. By comparison, Mexico’s typical auto industry wage of about $3.50 an hour for an experienced worker — which doubles with benefits — looks like a bargain.
    The rich getting richer..... This is quite a big difference in pay. You'd think new car prices would be going down instead of going up.

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