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    Climate Change Bill - This tax is only the begining

    CLIMATE CHANGE AND THIS BILL IS ONLY THE BEGINING!
    My Rant and common sense 6-07-08
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    As they have stated themselves, this bill won't make that much difference in climate change and global warming.
    SO THAT MEANS THEY WILL EVEDENTLY NEED MORE RIGHT?!
    This is guaranteed! As soon as other countries are hornswaggled into doing their part and contributing (which sells the program even more by giving it legitimacy-in the politicians eyes) then we will once again have to lead the effort and we will hear President Oboma or McCain say "If greenland can give this much money, surely we can do more since we are the richest nation on earth (if we didn't have $10 trillion in debt which makes us the poorest country on the earth) and America needs to lead. This is how we will continue to get suckered time and time again on global warming and climate change. They already admitt that this won't even touch the problem, so obviously we're going to be asked to do more and more right? You better believe it!

    You can believe this, once this is started like every government program before it, it will never stop, it will consume more and more of our daily lives as time goes on. Just like every country we've ever fought or been in, we've never left. Every goverment program we've ever started has never ended. Every tax we've ever levied on the American people have never be been abolished, they might have been cut but the reasons are not for the benefit of the masses or the majority. Just as Bush made the tax cuts, he has taken more out of the American people in way of laower wages due to illegal immigration while the corporations made huge profits, so you could say what we really had was a fake tax cut, then more taxes put on the American people (in washington a wage cut is a tax) and then the corporations saw a huge tax cut in the way of more profits from illegal and cheaper labor brought on by those illegals. In other words, any program to benefit the middle and lower classes that could help them financially to better their lives and get out of the government system, never happens, its always for the rich and the government benefit, just as this climate change bill will also be.

    Have you ever notice the government claims all thiese bogus issues are to protect us, though we can't see them physically, yet the things we clearly see like illegal immigration, they seem not to see. It just seems interesting that the Trillions of dollars Americans pay, we never can physically see the benefits of it can we? Why is this?

    The politicians and global elite that run things say ....
    We can't stop globalization, its already here.
    We can't stop global trade, its already here.
    We can't stop Illegal Immigration, its already here.
    We can't stop the war, we're already there.
    They will say the same thing about global climate change, once we're in, we're in a bottomless cash sink hole which will only get bigger and consume more of our hard earned labor while the rich and politicians continue to travel in their private jets, yhats and $250,000 sports cars and the little people will be eating beans and bread and sweating to death without air conditioning.

    They will come back in a year or two and say we need to be even more aggressive to combat the problem, just like they do with every other tax.

    If this global warming is soooo bad and auto's are the major factor then why are we prepared to spend trillions of dollars when the government could just give the inventor of the air car $50 Billion dollars, the government could easily start mass producing these cars and be rolling them out in 6 months. The government could even let Americans invest in the venture so we could make money as well and that way it isn't a nationaly run facsist endeavor, sell stocks and let the public own it. The company making the air car has an investor link on their website and I'm sure they would love for the United States to mass produce and sell the cars, why are we not pursuing this on a massive scale?

    Once the goverment (or stock holders) owned the patents they could easily have the many scientist we have on the payroll quickly develop the technology to other areas and improve the existing technology pretty fast. Within a year or two we could really be free of foreign oil and at the same time the fake global warming could be helped.

    Why won't they do this when it seems like the government wants to step in just about all other areas of our lives?

    The reason they won't is because there is no global warming and if there really were and it was so dire as Barbra Boxer claimed today on the floor of the senate envoking every heart string emotion she could including the children, this would be an obvious choice. But obviously it isn't that dire is it?

    Another clue that it isn't that dire is all these scientist that claim global warming say they haven't heard about the air car, the car that runs on compressed air. They haven't heard about the water car either but when I hear and read about scientist in the know of these pollution free technologies they say the government is looking into the technologies for the military use. So what gives?

    If global warming was so dire and I knew that cars were the major contributor to greenhouse gases then I'd do an internet search to see what technology might be out there, and if a person was to do that they would surely run across these two new pollution free technologies as I did. If I can do it, they can too, which just goes to show they either haven't done it or want to look the other way because global warming really doesn't exist.

    Does investing in the water and air car make sense or does paying out trillions of dollars to the big global corporations that will be manufacturing all the supposedly new green technology? Its a no brainer and thats why we know global warming is a total fabrication and a lie.

    Another oxymoron about the politicians view on global warming from the believers is ... ok, we're going to turn every building green. I will say that will create jobs for more illegals and that will mean millions more pouring in here as soon as they know the climate change legislation is going to pass. They'll say "We have alot of buildings that are going to be converting to green, and right now we just don't have the labor supply" Once again they will hit us with the bogus un-employment numbers and shove amnesty along with 10's of millions more legal immigrants coming here. When is the last time you heard of a recession with a 4.5% unemployment rate? Someone is lying and we know who it is don't we?

    So, they get all this done and then to turn every building green I'd say it going to take alot of building materials to do that about 4.5 Billion tons of materials. Isn't that going to use a hell of alot of energy and natural resources to do that? Isn't that the complete opposite of what global warming activist are trying to do? Lets see, raise hell about to much pollution and then make 10 times the pollution to fix the pollution?

    The building materials will need earth, water, air and everything we are claiming to want to preserve, this is being a good stewart of the earth? They complain about us not taking care of the earth God gave us and then want to reak havoc on that same earth to protect that same earth? Does someting sound funny here?

    I know, they will say the sooner we wreck the earth the sooner we can start protecting it. You know, sorta like saying lets pull all your teeth out now, that way you won't have to worry about them getting rotten, its all handled, we can put the false teeth in right now, then its done! No more worries. except this climate change bill will be like pulling all your teeth and getting one false tooth every year or two, while your still paying for a full set every year.

    Lets see, we can't use plastic, paper, petroleum, tree's, coal, nucelur, or even water dams for power, even if its clean burning. We can't drive anywhere, we can't throw anything out, we can't breathe or anything like that. We barely get to see our kids much less spend anytime with them because we'll have to work all the time. And the government wants to start raising and brainwashing them at 4 years old now, in 5 years it'll be by 3 years old. So I guess all we can do is move to the city take a $10 an hour job, walk to work and work for 8 hours then leave work and walk to the next job that'll we'll need to pay our bills, work 4 or 6 hours there, walk back home, eat rice and bamboo shoots, have sex, do drugs and be poor. We could just make little bedrooms at the factories and then we could work more, walk less, use less electricity since everyone will live in one big room. Less air conditioning and heat, have the daycare and the schools right there at the factory as well then after the kids get out of school they can go striaght to work too! Less walking around endangering ourselves in the horrible outside world they've created and live happy after. We can be like China and save the enviroment just like they do.

    The way it seems now is that most Americans will just jump on the hell trian if the CNN's, Fox News and NSNBC say its good long enough, people would actually believe it and they'd be waiting in line to get on that hell train. It used to be Americans weren't fools. We needed positve proof before we would pull our wallet out or believe in some hoax like this. But now I guess the people just refuse to question anything. They have no drive to research and relate that back to the common sense of the common man and the protocol of life and where hard work comes from and that it is theirs and everything it produces should be theirs and theirs alone, not the governments. But I guess they'd rather pay the government big taxes and then sit around and wonder why they are broke and can't afford anything. They will work for $10 an hour while the company makes $50 an hour off of them. They do it and don't complain to the management. I guess when the employers came up with that rule that you can't talk to other employees about wages. it sorta nipped any talk of workers dicussing anything at all. And the workers abide by these rules, even away from work. Seems stupid to me, you should be able to talk about anything you want off work hours, But, I guess They never add it up to see that you can't really prosper or have a future on those wages but they just do it and then complain about being broke and then do nothing but turn on some stupid no account TV show and get lost in it. I sure was hoping for that Ron Paul Revolution but the thing is, we don't have enough people with a brain in this country. Not enough people with common sense and the Umph to do something besides turn the channel. I guess thats why China is still the way it is, because people really don't want more, they really don't want to make the sacrifices, they want me and you to do it. But, its going to take five out of ten people to do it. One person out of a three hundred just isn't going to do it. I digress
    Unless we get those criminals & make them pay for what they have done to our country and the lawlessness they have sponsored, we are just another Mexico ourselves!

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    Lets see, we can't use plastic, paper, petroleum, tree's, coal, nucelur, or even water dams for power, even if its clean burning. We can't drive anywhere, we can't throw anything out, we can't breathe or anything like that. We barely get to see our kids much less spend anytime with them because we'll have to work all the time. And the government wants to start raising and brainwashing them at 4 years old now, in 5 years it'll be by 3 years old. So I guess all we can do is move to the city take a $10 an hour job, walk to work and work for 8 hours then leave work and walk to the next job that'll we'll need to pay our bills, work 4 or 6 hours there, walk back home, eat rice and bamboo shoots, have sex, do drugs and be poor. We could just make little bedrooms at the factories and then we could work more, walk less, use less electricity since everyone will live in one big room. Less air conditioning and heat, have the daycare and the schools right there at the factory as well then after the kids get out of school they can go striaght to work too! Less walking around endangering ourselves in the horrible outside world they've created and live happy after. We can be like China and save the enviroment just like they do.
    Live with chickens and our own filth and create more new strains of diseases to figure out.
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