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    Clinton Appointed Judge Rules No Fly List Unconstitutional

    Clinton Appointed Judge Rules No Fly List Unconstitutional

    Pamela Geller 16 hours ago

    In the blue state of Oregon, Clinton appointee U.S. District Judge Anna Brown ruled that the no-fly list was unconstitutional.

    U.S. officials insist that the process used to place individuals on the no-fly list is legal and well-founded, and relies on credible intelligence.

    As the global jihad escalates around the world, the question is, who will be getting on our planes now? We’ll soon find out.
    “Federal judge rules US no-fly list violates Constitution,”

    (Reuters) - The U.S. government’s no-fly list banning people accused of links to terrorism from commercial flights violates their constitutional rights because it gives them no meaningful way to contest that decision, a federal judge ruled on Tuesday.
    U.S. District Judge Anna Brown, ruling in a lawsuit filed in federal court in Oregon by 13 Muslim Americans who were branded with the no-fly status, ordered the government to come up with new procedures that allow people on the no-fly list to challenge that designation.
    “The court concludes international travel is not a mere convenience or luxury in this modern world. Indeed, for many international travel is a necessary aspect of liberties sacred to members of a free society,” Brown wrote in her 65-page ruling.

    “Accordingly, on this record the court concludes plaintiffs inclusion on the no-fly list constitutes a significant deprivation of their liberty interests in international travel,” Brown said.
    The 13 plaintiffs – four of them veterans of the U.S. military – deny they have links to terrorism and say they only learned of their no-fly status when they arrived at an airport and were blocked from boarding a flight.

    The American Civil Liberties Union, which brought suit against the policy in 2010, argues that secrecy surrounding the list and lack of any reasonable opportunity for plaintiffs to fight their placement on it violates their clients’ constitutional rights to due process.
    The government contends there is an adequate means of contesting the flight ban and that individuals listed under the policy may ultimately petition a U.S. appeals court directly for relief.

    The no-fly list, established in 2003 in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, attacks, bars those on it from flying within the United States or to and from the country. As of last year, it included some 20,000 people deemed by the FBI as having, or reasonably suspected of having, ties to terrorism, an agency spokesman said at the time. About 500 of them were U.S. citizens.


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    This issue seems to be one of balancing the government's duty to protect Americans against that of individuals' right to due process.

    Suspecting 20,000 people of having, or reasonably suspected of having, ties to terrorism sounds like the FBI is wielding too broad a brush. I hope that this designation can be independently investigated.

    During the McCarthy era this same agency was part of a campaign which damaged peoples' reputations with allegations of their being communists.
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    I support this ruling and hope it sticks.
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