Thread: Committee Confirms: Comply With Pelosi-Care Or Go To Jail

Yea, exactly, they'll let the illegals go without insurance, judges let them go all the time, but they won't stand for you and I not buying this traitous, unjustified and unConstitutional peice crap health care premium they want to shove down our throats.

One of the Republicans said that if this insurance is so great why are people that don't comply with it going to be fined 250,000 and five years in jail. I think it's a wonderful question.

This entire bill sucks. It covers illegal aliens. Who do you think is going to pay the illegal aliens tab? We are. And it will pay for abortions. Who do you think has more underage pregnancies than any other group? Hispanics do.
There is no health insurance crises. All we need is tort reform and competition accross state lines. How simple can it get?

Ladies and gentlemen, read the constitution. Congress has no authority to mandate anything like this coverage. This is a time of crisis in our country. Either the people will stand up and revolt against this BS or we will see the last vestiges of our rights ripped from us. The scoundrels in power are testing us to see how we respond. It is one thing to go after someone's pay through the courts, but when they start jailing people, I say the spit needs to hit the fan. I personally am not going to pay this corrupt government one red cent, and I would hope that all true citizens would join me. Let the chips fall where they may. No justice! No peace!

This bill won't pass in its present form. All this irrational stuff will have to be cut out and even then it probably won't pass.

If you go to jail or prison you get free health care, by current federal law.

[quote]• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.â€

These are not sections of the House bill itself. Rather, they are sections of the current Internal Revenue Code, laying out the consequences of willful tax nonpayment. (Here’s section 7203, section 7201, and an additional section that sets a higher fine than 7201, as noted in the letter’s footnotes.)

Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

â–*Section 7203 - misdemeanor wilful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
â–*Section 7201 - felony wilful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.

As Barthold points out in his letter, "the majority of delinquent taxes and penalties are collected through the civil process," without resort to criminal penalties. Prison terms are relatively rare. Barthold notes that in 2008 a total of 498 persons were incarcerated for federal tax crimes, while the Internal Revenue Service assessed 392,000 civil penalties for inaccurate tax returns. Imprisonment would require the government to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the tax evasion was "willful" and the accused had the ability to pay.

In the Senate, the Finance Committee’s health care bill was amended to nullify the possibility of jail time for not paying the penalty tax. It stipulates that in the case of nonpayment, "such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure." Instead, the Senate measure would allow the government to collect the tax by deducting it from any IRS tax-refund checks or other government payments. Should the full Senate approve that language, a House-Senate conference committee would have to wrestle with the question of whether or not a person who refuses to obtain coverage and refuses to pay the penalty can be charged with criminal tax evasion.

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Sources

Barthold, Thomas. Letter to Rep. Dave Camp. 5 Nov 2009.

U.S. House. "H.R. 3962, Affordable Health Care for America Act." (as passed 7 Nov 2009.)

"Willful failure to file return, supply information, or pay tax." Title 26 U.S. Code, sec. 7203.

"Attempt to evade or defeat tax." Title 26 U.S. Code, sec. 7201.

"Sentence of fine." Title 18 U.S. Code, sec. 3571.

U.S. Senate. "S.1796, America’s Healthy Future Act of 2009." (as introduced 19 Oct. 2009.)

Imprisoned for Not Having Health Care?

November 13, 2009

Q: Could somebody be imprisoned for not purchasing health insurance under the House health care bill?

A: Both House and Senate bills would levy a tax on persons who refuse to obtain coverage. Willfully evading that tax could result in jail time under the bill passed by the House – but not the bill approved by the Senate Finance Committee.

http://factcheck.org/2009/11/imprisoned ... alth-care/