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    US National ID Cards by May 2008

    US National ID Cards by May 2008

    Nancy Levant / Al-Jazeerah | October 30 2006


    At large, the American people are still unaware of the issuance of the Real ID card forthcoming in May of 2008. This new national/international ID card, and its interactivity with national/international databases, can access our medical, financial, driving, Social Security, license(s), firearms registrations, and political status inside its high tech/little nano brain. In essence, it holds our private lives on a swipe-able card that is then privy to any organization, retailer, or person requesting our identification or our money. In other words, our life histories accessible upon command from one 2X3 inch card.

    Having no choice but to comply, most American people will accept their new national/international ID card. It is my understanding that without the card, we will be denied bank accounts in the United States of America, a driver’s license, and the right to fly on airplanes unless we have been issued a Real ID card. One might imagine that global retailers might require the Real ID to purchase food and gasoline. Take a look at your current driver’s license. Check the expiration date. 2008 would be a good global guess.

    For those of us who have seen United Nations military vehicles in the United States, and who have also noticed convoys of military tanks being transported through the wilderness areas of our nation – the same areas that have been locked down and away from the American people via Biosphere Reserves and conservation corridors - we have realized for a great many years that, as one patriot stated, the “stage was being set” for difficult times on American soil – the key issue that mass media ignores at its professional finest. So, with stages being set, one must also look to the timing of the Real ID card, and to 2008 in general. Let us not forget all the other paramilitary systems in our nation, like the Department of Homeland Security, FEMA, Citizens Corp groups, Neighborhood Watch groups, C.O.P.S. (Community Oriented Policing Services), the militarizing of law enforcement departments, and the many new for-hire corporations that offer private armies with weapons for a price. And then, of course, there are the U.N. peacekeeping forces, which the American military has been actively involved with for many, many decades while, simultaneously and incrementally, our “leaders” have been closing our homeland military bases during these same decades.

    The professional timing of the Real ID card in 2008, and its mandatory issuance, brings to mind several forthcoming coincidences and issues. The collecting and databasing of all personal information of every American adult – coinciding with the CFR’s North American Community – and all global government infrastructures in place and play, one must consider the following:

    • How are “domestic terrorists” determined and identified?

    • Who will be held in the Civilian Labor Camps on American soil?

    • What is the real issue behind the “identity theft” propaganda?

    • Why are the off-limits American wilderness areas crawling with secret military operations?

    • And why the mandatory issuance of an ID card that sums up every American citizen with one swipe?

    One cannot help but to almost laugh when it comes to considering how directly global intentions rest beneath our noses. So easy to see, yet so blindly the public goes about its merry and dull way. On that note, the Real ID card will ultimately seal your fate. You will be a compliant and completely identifiable slave to the New World Order, or you will be its enemy – and your Real ID will determine which global creature you shall be.

    Therefore, America, let us not in-fight. The fact of our demise as free people exists no matter whose research is right or wrong. The stage is, in fact, being set for our nation’s conquering. The Democrats and Republicans have seen to this fact and have worked steadfastly to raise their one-world government. They knew from the beginning that people with property, firearms, and rights were their primary problems, or in other words, the people of the United States of America and other westernized nations. Our “leadership” is not what they seem.

    The public acceptance of the Real ID in May of 2008 seals the deal. It will be more than interesting to see which of our friends, neighbors, and family members will willingly sign onto their fate as new “citizens” of the global police state. Just keep telling yourselves that you voted them into office. So did I. As such, we have a lot of soul searching to do and very, very little time – about 21 months. Are we going to continue to allow our “representatives” to march off with this nation and our Constitutional freedom, or are we going to unite and reclaim OUR nation? Ignorance is never bliss. It is abject slavery, and this time, the enslavement is backed by a system far greater than concepts or perceived notions of freedom. It’s past time to do more than wave flags, wear patriotic tee shirts, hats, and pins. It’s time to serve through action and duty to this nation. Start an A.C.E. (Americans for Constitutional Enforcement) chapter in your neighborhood NOW. Request an information packet (contactus@a4ce.org) and create your local chapter. It’s YOUR job and Constitutional duty to save our nation and to preserve freedom. We have been betrayed. For the sake of your children, open your eyes and act. The only potential answer is to UNITE for freedom and to command that freedom with one voice. Then, as a nation UNITED in knowledge, we can rid ourselves of our “representative” globalists. Now, please stop the bickering and bitching, especially of the partisanship flavor, and get to WORK. Global government is non-partisan minus the master-slave divide.

    You may also request a mailed copy of the A.C.E. Information Packet by sending $10.00 to A.C.E., P.O. Box 293, Iron Mountain, MI 49801.


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    Summary of Real ID Act

    Summary of the Real ID Act
    http://www.numbersusa.com/PDFs/Sensenbr ... 201pgr.pdf

    I checked my license, it need not be renewed untill 2009. It's unfortunate that terrorists attacks have robbed us of our security. Our open border and open society enables anyone to attack us. I am afraid that securing our border and ports will require secure IDs for all of us.

    It's impossible to only track only "them". I believe we will all surrender some freedom for the safety and security of the nation.

    Without a secure ID system, how do we secure our border, ports, cities and towns ? How do we prevent ID theift, benefit theift, job theift ?

    Fairly soon, a scan of our thumb print will be required to make a retail purchase. If a scan of my thumb print verifies my identity, a theif can't use my credit card. However, Homeland Security will be able to track and verify my every purchase. Not that they're looking for me, but they could.
    Presently they can track all my credit purchases, but it's a little more labor intensive.

    The police do not even investigate identity theift. They know where the theif used my card. They may even have it on video. However this doen't enable them to pursue the theif, let alone catch him. They can't identify the person in the video, linked to the fraudulant purchase, so he goes free. ID theift is BILLIONS of dollars a year.

    If the theif needs my card and thumb print scan, hopefully he will no longer steal my credit card numbers. If he steals both, I'm really in trouble.

    I think a secure ID system and thumb print scans will be two POWERFUL tools of law enforcement. Could they be abused ? Anything is possible.
    So, I ask God for assistance and keep my guns.

    I'm willing to sign on to a secure ID system, which no doubt will give the govt. more information about me and enable them to better track my purchasing activities. If the govt. wants information about me, they can get it. They have the resources to get almost anything. The real id act will just make it easier. Hopefully, it's more difficult for terrorists and crooks to operate in our society.

    This is part of the reason future terrorists & crimmminals will be off the grid (system). To be successful they will need to use cash and NEVER use a cell phone.

    If you don't want to be on the grid, use cash for 100% of your transactions.

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    Re: Summary of Real ID Act

    Quote Originally Posted by magyart
    Summary of the Real ID Act
    http://www.numbersusa.com/PDFs/Sensenbr ... 201pgr.pdf

    I checked my license, it need not be renewed untill 2009. It's unfortunate that terrorists attacks have robbed us of our security. Our open border and open society enables anyone to attack us. I am afraid that securing our border and ports will require secure IDs for all of us.

    It's impossible to only track only "them". I believe we will all surrender some freedom for the safety and security of the nation.

    Without a secure ID system, how do we secure our border, ports, cities and towns ? How do we prevent ID theift, benefit theift, job theift ?

    Fairly soon, a scan of our thumb print will be required to make a retail purchase. If a scan of my thumb print verifies my identity, a theif can't use my credit card. However, Homeland Security will be able to track and verify my every purchase. Not that they're looking for me, but they could.
    Presently they can track all my credit purchases, but it's a little more labor intensive.

    The police do not even investigate identity theift. They know where the theif used my card. They may even have it on video. However this doen't enable them to pursue the theif, let alone catch him. They can't identify the person in the video, linked to the fraudulant purchase, so he goes free. ID theift is BILLIONS of dollars a year.

    If the theif needs my card and thumb print scan, hopefully he will no longer steal my credit card numbers. If he steals both, I'm really in trouble.

    I think a secure ID system and thumb print scans will be two POWERFUL tools of law enforcement. Could they be abused ? Anything is possible.
    So, I ask God for assistance and keep my guns.

    I'm willing to sign on to a secure ID system, which no doubt will give the govt. more information about me and enable them to better track my purchasing activities. If the govt. wants information about me, they can get it. They have the resources to get almost anything. The real id act will just make it easier. Hopefully, it's more difficult for terrorists and crooks to operate in our society.

    This is part of the reason future terrorists & crimmminals will be off the grid (system). To be successful they will need to use cash and NEVER use a cell phone.

    If you don't want to be on the grid, use cash for 100% of your transactions.

    Quote Originally Posted by magyart
    "It's impossible to only track only "them". I believe we will all surrender some freedom for the safety and security of the nation. "
    "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither" ... Benjamin Franklin



    Quote Originally Posted by magyart
    "This is part of the reason future terrorists & crimmminals will be off the grid (system). To be successful they will need to use cash and NEVER use a cell phone.

    If you don't want to be on the grid, use cash for 100% of your transactions "

    So people who don’t want to be tracked by their government are terrorists or criminals? I think NOT!

    If I refuse this ID as an American, I cannot get a bank account, I cannot get social security benefits, I cannot get on a plane, I cannot enter a federal building. With the exception of banking, why should I be forced to pay taxes if I cannot enter a federal building, collect social security benefits? I pay into the beast that builds such things.

    Criminals and terrorists are not stupid. If they cant do things without an ID, do you think they wont figure out other ways to do their dirty deeds?

    What’s next, a chip in the hand or the forehead?

    And if this is an ID to protect America, why is the United States sharing all of this vital data with Mexico and Canada.


    I'm sorry, but with the way things are going, soon you will not have the right to own a gun, but that wont stop the criminals from getting them.


    If you want to give up freedom for security, then I feel for you.


    Do you prefer living in a Constitutional Republic or a Police State?


    Perhaps we should kill the Bill of Rights so that we can all be safer; we should have to open our doors whenever a government entity asks us with or without cause. Perhaps we should all have cameras and microphones in our homes with 24/7 monitoring with Federal computers and employees to make certain no one is a terrorist. Maybe we should have to use biometric identifiers for those who want to log onto the internet to ensure that anyone who criticizes governmental policies can be quickly apprehended and detained as a criminal or terrorist. Perhaps we should all be tracked when we drive to make certain that we don’t go into any unsafe places. Perhaps our children should be chipped and tracked like dogs to make sure they are secure, heck we should just let the government have all the children so they can protect them since most families have to have two working parents in order to make ends meet. Does that make you warm and fuzzy inside?
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    Well said, jp!!!

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