Thread: Disgraced Parkland deputy heard shots inside school building, told cops to stay away

Originally Posted by MW

Probably not something you should feel comfortable saying to a 20 year military retiree who has received combat action related awards. Just saying ......

PTSD?

Yeah, possibly, because it was a very emotional reaction. Shame.

We'll probably never know the whole story.

But we've had enough of these to know that once the shooter is on the premises and inside the building, it's not going to have a good outcome through no fault of anyone but the shooter (s).

Pennsylvania superintendent says students are armed with rocks in case of school shooting

by WPDE
Friday, March 23rd 2018



(Pixabay photo via MGN)

Schuylkill County, Pa. — The superintendent of the Blue Mountain School District in Pennsylvania is in the spotlight after telling lawmakers in Harrisburg last week that his students protect themselves against potential school shooters with rocks, according to WNEP.

“Every classroom has been equipped with a five-gallon bucket of river stone. If an armed intruder attempts to gain entrance into any of our classrooms, they will face a classroom full students armed with rocks and they will be stoned,” said Dr. David Helsel, according to the ABC station.

http://kfoxtv.com/news/nation-world/pennsylvania-superintendent-says-students-are-armed-with-rocks-in-case-of-school-shooting

Teachers given training in order to fight back if they encounter school shooters

Lessons apply beyond the classroom

Jace Larson, Scott Sherman 1:06 PM, Mar 23, 2018
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SYRACUSE, New York — It’s training many teachers have never seen, and it’s designed to let staff feel what it might be like to have a school shooter attacking.

These teachers are physically learning to team up and do battle with a shooter, and they are being taught to focus on a shooter's hands.

Teacher’s aid Melissa Demjanenko used tennis balls to train in place of staplers, tape dispensers or chairs she would really use to defend her classroom.

"I think of myself as not a powerful person. ... What can I do to stop something? Now I know I can do something. Now I know everyone in this room can do something," Demjanenko said.

The training considers the idea that when people are in the most stressful situation of their lives, and they think they're just going to react a certain way ... they recognize they won't, Sheriff’s Deputy Tom Czyz said.

People need muscle memory, and to get that, a person needs to have gone through similar stress, he said.

Czyz started the training company Armored One.

He says running to safety is your best bet, then hide if you can’t run.

Along with other current and former law enforcement he teaches teachers lessons that go beyond the classroom and beyond the school lessons we can all use if running or hiding aren’t an option.

“Your game plan of what you will do in case something happens: I hear gunshots behind me in front of me next to me.

Which way am I going? What am I doing if I have to fight back.? What am I going to use for weapons? ... Literally in a few seconds.

"Everywhere you go you can have these plans already and it could save your life," Czyz said.

We asked if he does that in every building he goes into.
“Absolutely.”

Police officers regularly train at the gun range; flight attendants on the airplane train for weeks to help people get out alive. This is why some school districts have decided teachers also need to train physically — to protect students.

Before this training, in a mock active shooter drill — teachers reacted painfully slow, taking more than 30 seconds to exit the room.

Czyz was brutally honest.

“If my own kids were in here, I would be disgusted with you. Pretend like your own kids are in here, right?" he said.

Czyz's team demonstrated how to barricade a door and use other things around to block and protect one's self. The taechers then tried again.

There was a huge difference after the training — teachers cleared the room in around 10 seconds.

The sheriff's department says it works hard to make sure the teachers are in their space, so training is done in the school where the teachers actually work. They get first-hand experience in their building.

Planning ahead and practicing is what these teachers say now gives them the confidence to wage war against an attacker if they have no other choice.

https://www.abc15.com/news/national/shooter-safety

Originally Posted by Judy

Yeah, possibly, because it was a very emotional reaction. Shame.

We'll probably never know the whole story.

But we've had enough of these to know that once the shooter is on the premises and inside the building, it's not going to have a good outcome through no fault of anyone but the shooter (s).

I'd say we do pretty much know the whole story. Peterson's act was cowardly and the whole country knows it.

Judge: Cops, School Had No Duty to Protect Parkland Students

by Dan Zimmerman |
Dec 18, 2018 |
76 comments



Following the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida and the revelations of multiple failures on various levels on the part of those in positions of responsibility that day and in the months before the incident, fifteen students filed a lawsuit against the school district and the Broward County Sheriff’s Department.

Those named in the lawsuit include former school resource Deputy Scot Peterson, Broward Sheriff’s Office Capt. Jan Jordan, former MSD baseball coach and security guard Andrew Medina, Broward County Public Schools Superintendent Robert Runcie, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel and three unidentified BSO deputies referred to as John Does 1-3.

The current and now former students who sued claimed severe psychological injury and trauma. You might have thought that given the sterling performances of people like Runcie, Peterson, Jordan and Israel, they’d have a good case that those in whom they place their trust had utterly failed to do their jobs. All of the defendants had multiple warnings that Nikolas Cruz was a danger to himself and others.

The lawsuit argued that the Sheriff’s Office and School Board “either have a policy that allows killers to walk through a school killing people without being stopped. Alternatively, they have such inadequate training that the individuals tasked with carrying out the polices … lack the basic fundamental understandings of what those policies are such that they are incapable of carrying them out.”

Both of those assertions may, in fact, be true. However…

A federal judge says Broward schools and the Sheriff’s Office had no legal duty to protect students during the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

While that may seem surprising, the ruling in the Parkland students’ suit is consistent with previous case law. In Castle Rock v. Gonzales and the earlier DeShaney v. Winnebago County, the Supreme Court held that police and other public employees have no constitutional duty to protect the public from harm.
In her Parkland lawsuit ruling, US District Judge Beth Bloom wrote:

“The claim arises from the actions of [shooter Nikolas] Cruz, a third party, and not a state actor,” she wrote in a ruling Dec. 12. “Thus, the critical question the Court analyzes is whether defendants had a constitutional duty to protect plaintiffs from the actions of Cruz.
“As previously stated, for such a duty to exist on the part of defendants, plaintiffs would have to be considered to be in custody” — for example, as prisoners or patients of a mental hospital, she wrote.

As so many have pointed out over the years, individuals are their own first responders. Even the most dedicated police officers — those who don’t wait outside a building while a killer is shooting children inside — can’t respond to a situation quickly enough to save your life if you’re confronted by someone with a firearm.
That realization is no doubt a big part of why the Parkland commission that investigated the shooting recently voted 13-1 to recommend arming teachers and administrators in pubic schools. It’s the only rational way to protect students in “gun-free” zones. And the only thing those who fight against such policies and bury their heads in the hoplophobic sand accomplish is to endanger more innocent lives.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...land-students/

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Deputy who failed to confront gunman during Parkland massacre arrested

Updated: 4:31 PM EDT Jun 4, 2019

Former Marjory Stoneman Douglas SRO arrested over response to school shooting

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A former Broward County deputy who failed to confront the Parkland school massacre gunman has been arrested on child neglect and other charges, officials said. Former Broward Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson, 56, was arrested in Broward County Tuesday on seven counts of neglect of a child, three counts of culpable negligence and one count of perjury. Peterson was the school resource officer at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. He was on duty during the shooting at but never went inside the school.The arrest comes after a 15-month investigation into the actions of law enforcement during the shooting. FDLE officials said Peterson refused to investigate the source of gunshots and retreated during the active shooting while victims were being shot. Investigators also allege Peterson directed other law enforcement to remain 500 feet away from the building. “The FDLE investigation shows former Deputy Peterson did absolutely nothing to mitigate the MSD shooting that killed 17 children, teachers and staff and injured 17 others,” said FDLE Commissioner Rick Swearingen. “There can be no excuse for his complete inaction and no question that his inaction cost lives.”The charges carry a combined prison sentence of nearly 100 years. Peterson's bail was set at $102,000.Nikolas Cruz, 20, faces the death penalty if convicted of killing 17 people and wounding 17 others in the attack. He has offered to plead guilty in return for a life sentence, but prosecutors have refused that offer.
PARKLAND, Fla. —A former Broward County deputy who failed to confront the Parkland school massacre gunman has been arrested on child neglect and other charges, officials said.
Former Broward Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson, 56, was arrested in Broward County Tuesday on seven counts of neglect of a child, three counts of culpable negligence and one count of perjury.

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Peterson was the school resource officer at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. He was on duty during the shooting at but never went inside the school.
The arrest comes after a 15-month investigation into the actions of law enforcement during the shooting.
FDLE officials said Peterson refused to investigate the source of gunshots and retreated during the active shooting while victims were being shot. Investigators also allege Peterson directed other law enforcement to remain 500 feet away from the building.
“The FDLE investigation shows former Deputy Peterson did absolutely nothing to mitigate the MSD shooting that killed 17 children, teachers and staff and injured 17 others,” said FDLE Commissioner Rick Swearingen. “There can be no excuse for his complete inaction and no question that his inaction cost lives.”
The charges carry a combined prison sentence of nearly 100 years. Peterson's bail was set at $102,000.
Nikolas Cruz, 20, faces the death penalty if convicted of killing 17 people and wounding 17 others in the attack. He has offered to plead guilty in return for a life sentence, but prosecutors have refused that offer.

https://www.wesh.com/article/marjory...ested/27728826

'Coward Of Broward' Arrested: Former Sheriff's Deputy Who Ran From Mass Shooting Faces 11 Counts



Peterson could face up to 97 years in state prison if convicted.