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    21 States Claiming Sovereignty:

    I think it is about time for us to pressure our state governments into putting this into action. We need to start declaring sovereignty to keep from having to have the national ID and to preventt the Obama admisistration from giving our sovereignty away to the UN and their global ID agenda. If we don't put the pressure on now, it will be too late.
    The federal government has no Constitutional right to meddle in our health affairs, educational affairs and other affairs they are trying to implement. Read your Constiution and the separation of power.




    21 States Claiming Sovereignty: AZ, AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA, HI, ID, IN, KS, ME, MI, MO, MT, NH, NV, OK, PA, TX, & WA
    http://www.mrstep.com/politics/az-wa-mo ... vereignty/

    AZ: http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp ... r2024p.htm
    AL: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    AK: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    AR: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    CA: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/93-94/bil ... _chaptered
    CO: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    GA: http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/1995 ... /sr308.htm
    HI: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/07-1372.htm
    ID: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    IN: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    KS: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    ME: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    MI: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(21rmji ... 55yxurwl55))/documents/2009-2010/Journal/House/pdf/2009-HJ-01-22-002.pdf
    MO: http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?in ... /HR212.HTM
    MT: http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm
    NH: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legisla ... R0006.html
    NV: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    OK: http://www.ok-safe.com/files/documents/ ... 89_int.pdf
    PA: (Still searching for link - not officially posted, but analysts expect it is in the works)
    TX: (not officially declared recently, but is supposedly sovereign since it was never willfully ceded to the States - put on planning list)
    WA: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary ... &bill=4009


    More: http://www.mrstep.com/politics/az-wa-mo ... g-sovereig

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    I think

    I actually think the national ID is an excellent idea. I have lived abroad for 25% of my life and every country I've lived in uses one. If you get pulled over by the police, you get asked for a driver's license and national ID or Work Permit Card. If you don't have one, you go to jail until it's produced.

    The driver's-license-as-national-ID, as we all know, is a total failure, since one can get one without proving nationality.

    The national ID card, or green card should be required when opening a bank account, renting/ buying a home, etc.

    Of course, that will never happen, the Dems would lose to many future (Hispanic) voters.

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    jonhaloi:

    Go to jail...
    The national ID card, or green card should be required when opening a bank account, renting/ buying a home, etc.
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    Nazi Germany had a national id card. Communist China has one too. The same companies producing China's National ID card wants to produce ours.
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    I do believe it is unconstitutional to have a National ID. States are sovereign in itself. We are allowed to travel from state to state. A national ID can be forged just as well as our state dl. They don't care about illeglas getting state licesnces, they won't care if they have national ids.

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    House Rules Committee Gets Standing Ovation!

    Oklahoma HJR 1003 Claiming Sovereignty under the 10th Amendment was heard Wednesday, February 11, 2009 and passed out of Committee unanimously.

    Call legislatores and thank them for their support.

    The Rules Committee of the Oklahoma House of Representatives met late in the afternoon Wednesday, February 11, 2009 in Room 412-C at the Capitol, after being delayed by action on the House floor.

    Both Room 412-C and the overflow room next door were filled to capacity with citizens anxious to support Representative Charles Key's bill HJR 1003, known as the 10th Amendment bill.

    The 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution states:
    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    Oklahoma HJR 1003 declares, in part:
    "THAT this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers. THAT all compulsory federal legislation which directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed."

    The 12-member Rules committee, after some discussion, passed HJR 1003 12-0. The overflow room burst into applause and gave the legislators a standing ovation.

    Oklahoma is looked to as a leader in state's rights. Moving HJR 1003 out of committee is the first step in keeping this legislation alive.

    Continued support for both HJR 1003 and the Senate version, SJR 10 by Senator Randy Brogdon, will be crucial as these bills work their way through the legislative process.

    Please call and email Rules Committee Chairman Representative Gus Blackwell and the other committee members to thank them for supporting HJR 1003 and ask them to continue their support going forward.

    House Rules Committee Contact information:

    Blackwell, Gus (Chair) gusblackwell@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7384 Yea
    Jackson, Mike (Vice Chair) mikejackson@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7317 Yea
    Dorman, Joe joedorman@okhouse.gov D (405) 557-7305 Yea
    Jones, Tad tadjones@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7380 Yea
    Key, Charles charles.key@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7354 Yea
    Liebmann, Guy guyliebmann@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7357 Yea
    Morrissette, Richard richardmorrissette@okhouse.gov D (405) 557-7404 Yea
    Sanders, Mike mike.sanders@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7407 Yea
    Shoemake, Jerry jerryshoemake@okhouse.gov D (405) 557-7373 Yea
    Thompson, Mike mikethompson@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7403 Yea
    Trebilcock, John johntrebilcock@okhouse.gov R (405) 557-7362 Yea
    Williams, Cory T. cory.williams@okhouse.gov D (405) 557-7411 Yea

    We thank you for your prompt action on this important topic. It made a difference!

    source: OK-Safe Action alert http://ok-safe.com
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    A national ID will be one step more to a world government.

    Have any of you been concerned about that they embedded in the stimulus bill to have our medical records on sometype of computer system and than to have a zcar of some higher order to decide what medical procedures will should be available? This can be a concern and a slippery slope for the elderly. If it gets to this stage it will not be too long when it will not be in the power of the doctors or family to decide who gets what medical procedures.

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