Judy, why are you still misrepresenting the alleged fairtax?
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Judy
The FairTax excludes the necessities of life from the FairTax through the rebate.
That is not entirely true, Judy. Why are you misrepresenting the alleged fairtax?
The alleged fairtax, in effect, allows for a rationed supply of tax free articles each month for every household, after which the full tax is paid, even upon the necessities of life. It does this under the “family consumption allowance” which is a monthly entitlement check sent to every household in America. This monthly check allows taxpayers, and especially the poor, to purchase a rationed supply of tax free necessities, which in turn makes voters with limited economic means, dependent upon the federal government for a portion of their monthly economic needs. Were we not warned in the Federalist Papers that control over a man’s subsistence amounts to a power over his will?
And tell us, Judy, under the alleged fairtax and its family consumption entitlement, how many more “poor working people” would have a vested interest in voting for progressives, socialists and communists during election time who would promise to work to increase the family consumption entitlement? Is this not how Fifth Column members of Congress stay in power in our nation’s poorest voting districts ____ by offering their constituency free government cheese?
Tell me Judy, why are you so eager to create another entitlement, which would help our Fifth Column member in Congress to remain in power by promising our nation’s poor during each election time to alter the fairtax and enlarge the family consumption entitlement?
JWK
Judy, what you believe does not make it so
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johnwk
Are you now admitting you misrepresented how the founders intended to tax consumption? Remember, you did write: "The FairTax taxes consumption as the founders intended . . ."
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Judy
No, I'm not. I believe the Founders would review the FairTax and go "damn, why didn't we think of that."
What you believe does not make it so. The fact is, as I have documented in POST NUMBER 37 the Founders method of taxing consumption is far different from the alleged fairtax, and the founders reasoning for taxing consumption as they did exhibits some of the faults in the alleged fairtax.
JWK
Why are you still making stuff up, Judy, about the alleged fairtax?
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Judy
Every US citizen and Legal Resident who wants it gets the Rebate. It's not based on income, only the amount is based on a formula that includes x amount for adults and a lower x amount for children, and that amount is based on the household consumption allowance determined by the annual poverty level to calculate the amount. It's not based on whether you're poor or rich, it's a rebate to any US citizen or Legal Resident Household in the US with a valid Social Security number who wants it, and they all receive the same amount based on the formula.
The Rebate is not an "entitlement", it's an exemption in a pre-determined amount per adult and another one per child to exclude necessities from the FairTax for consumers who are US citizens and Legal Residents with valid Social Security numbers.
The Rebate is not sent to "every household in America". That is a lie, Johnwk. Only US citizen and Legal Resident Households are eligible and the Rebate is only sent to those who sign up for it. You are free to sign up for it and free not to sign up for it. Your choice.
A rich person who chooses to sign up for it who has very expensive "necessities" gets the same amount as a very poor person with inexpensive "necessities". It's completely egalitarian, no special advantage to anyone except US citizens and Legal Residents with valid Social Security numbers.
In fact, the FairTax is completely egalitarian. Everyone who is a US Citizen and Legal Resident is treated exactly the same under the FairTax. Everyone who is not a US Citizen or Legal Resident, a visitor, tourist, and anyone else spending money on consumption of new products and services is treated the same except for the Rebate which is reserved for US citizens and Legial Residents, as it should be. It's why they named it the FairTax. I realize this pisses off people who think they're special and want a tax advantage for themselves at someone else's expense, but Americans are sick of that. We really are. We're sick and tired of the whining special interests who want special treatment because of this or that. In fact, people like MW think being treated equally is "fraud" and a "pitfall". Apparently you do too.
SAD!!
There you go again, Judy, not addressing what I have posted and how the alleged fairtax, its “family consumption allowance” is a gift to our Fifth Column socialist, communist and progressive members of Congress.
You never answered my questions.
And tell us, Judy, under the alleged fairtax and its family consumption entitlement, how many more “poor working people” would have a vested interest in voting for progressives, socialists and communists during election time who would promise to work to increase the family consumption entitlement? Is this not how Fifth Column members of Congress stay in power in our nation’s poorest voting districts ____ by offering their constituency free government cheese?
Tell me Judy, why are you so eager to create another entitlement, which would help our Fifth Column member in Congress to remain in power by promising our nation’s poor during each election time to alter the fairtax and enlarge the family consumption entitlement?
Yes. The family consumption allowance is an entitlement to every qualified family.
From the actual Bill:
SEC. 301. FAMILY CONSUMPTION ALLOWANCE.
`Each qualified family shall be eligible to receive a sales tax rebate each month. The sales tax rebate shall be in an amount equal to the product of--
`(1) the rate of tax imposed by section 101, and
`(2) the monthly poverty level.
`SEC. 302. QUALIFIED FAMILY.
`(a) General Rule- For purposes of this chapter, the term `qualified family' shall mean 1 or more family members sharing a common residence. All family members sharing a common residence shall be considered as part of 1 qualified family.
Why are you still making stuff up about the alleged fairtax?
JWK