Thread: link to politicians term limits

Apparently the attack on term limits is still alive and well. This looks like a good lik to keep up to date on this! We MUST not allow these criminals to stay in office!!!




http://www.ustl.org/news/news.aspx

Apparently Clinton brought this up a while back. Who is this windbag Senator Hoyer? This issue must be followed closely even though it appears nothing has been passed YET!





REPEAL 22ND AMENDMENT TO U.S. CONSTITUTION -- (Extensions of Remarks - February 18, 2005)

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SPEECH OF
HON. STENY H. HOYER
OF MARYLAND
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2005

* Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing today a joint resolution to repeal outright the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution. The 22nd Amendment requires that no person who has served two terms or has served two years of another President's term be permitted to serve another term of office.

* The time has come to repeal the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, and not because of partisan politics. While I am not a

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supporter of the current President, I feel there are good public policy reasons for a repeal of this amendment. Under the Constitution as altered by the 22nd Amendment, this must be President George W. Bush's last term even if the American people should want him to continue in office. This is an undemocratic result.

* Under the resolution I offer today, President Bush would not be eligible to run for a third term. However, the American people would have restored to themselves and future generations an essential democratic privilege to elect who they choose in the future.

* A limitation on the terms that a President could serve was not fully discussed by the Founding Fathers. However, Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist Paper 72, recognized that one important benefit of not having term limits on the President would be:

* We do not have to rely on rigid constitutional standards to hold our Presidents accountable. Sufficient power resides in the Congress and the Judiciary to protect our country from tyranny. As the noted attorney and counsel to Presidents, Clark Clifford, said:

I believe we denigrate ourselves as an enlightened people, and our political process as a whole, in imposing on ourselves still further disability to retain tested and trusted leadership. The Congress and the Judiciary are now and will remain free to utilize their own countervailing constitutional power to forestall any executive overreaching.

I would love nothing better than to see Senate and House term limits. It is part of the Constitution Party's platform, I believe. We ought to hammer away at this in our "spare time."

NAH, he could'nt possibly be influenced by lobbyist! I think we need to look at the PAC contributions for EVERY REPRESENTATIVE and see just who they are getting money from! PAC's should be OUTLAWED!



Representative Steny H. Hoyer (D-MD 5th)
Political Action Committee Contributions: 2005-2006 Campaign Cycle
Total 2005-2006 campaign contributions: $567,934
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Contributor Total


America'S Community Bankers Community
Campaign Committee $-1000
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee $33
Association Of Professional Flight Attendants (Apfa Pac) Political Action Committee $350
Seafarers Political Activity Donation-Seafarers International Union Of N.A.
- Agliwd/Nmu $500
National Association Of Air Traffic Specialists Political Action Fund $500
Corning Incorporated Employees Political Action Committee (Corepac) $500
Southern Minnesota Beet Sugar Cooperative Political Action Committee $500
Grand Trunk Rail- Illinois Central Rail Co Pac (Gtr-Icr Pac) $500
American Physical Therapy Association Physical Therapy Political Action
Committee (Pt-Pac) $500
American Sugarbeet Growers Association Political Action Committee $500
Labor Ready Inc. Pac $1000
Heartland Pac Fka: Youngstown $1000
Home Depot Inc. Political Action Committee, $1000
The National Structured Settlements Trade Association Political
Action Committee $1000
Lasalle Bank Corporation Federal Pac, $1000
The National Thoroughbred Racing Association Political
Action Committee/Horse Pac $1000
Cendant Corporation Political Action Committee $1000
Citizens Organized Political Action Committee $1000
Mckenna Long And Aldridge Llp Political Action Committee $1000
Wine Institute Political Action Committte $1000
Allegheny Energy Inc. Federal Political Action Committee
(Allegheny Powerpac - Federal) $1000
Fleishman-Hillard Pac $1000
American Beverage Association Political Action Committee
(Aka American Beverage Pac) $1000
Medco Health Solutions Inc Political Action Committee (Aka: Medco Health Pac) $1000
Auction Markets Political Action Committee Of The Chicago
Board Of Trade A/K/A Ampac/Cbt $1000
Swales And Associates Inc Political Action Committee $1000
Preston Gates Ellis $1000
Walt Disney Productions Employees Pac
(Disney Employees Political Action Committee) $1000
Occidental Petroleum Corporation Political Action Committee $1000
Grand Canyon Caucus $1000
Biotechnology Industry Organization Pac (Bio Pac) $1000
R.J. Reynolds Political Action Committee; Reynolds American Inc. $1000
Rolls-Royce North America Holdings Inc. Pac (Rolls-Royce North America Pac) $1000
American Gaming Association Political Action Committee $1000
Arnold & Porter Llp Partners Political Action Committee $1000
Air Transport Association Of America Political Action Committee; The $1000
Pma Group Political Action Committee $1000
Independent Insurance Agents Of America Political Action Committee (Insurpac) $1000
Domino Pac $1000
St. Paul Travelers Companies Inc. Political Action Committee (Sta Pac), $1000
The United Mine Workers Of America - Coal Miners Political Action Committee $1000
Fluor Corporation Political Action Committee (Fluor Pac) $1000
Greater Washington Board Of Trade Federal Pac $1000
American Nurses Association Pac $1000
Credit Suisse Securities (Usa) Government Action Fund $1000
Mid Atlantic Medical Services Inc. Pac $1000
Buchanan Ingersoll Professional Corporation Committee For
Effective Government "Bipc Pac" $1000
National Association Of Real Estate Investment Trusts Inc. Political Action Committee $1000
Foley & Lardner Political Fund Inc. $1000
Transportation Trades Department Afl-Cio Political Action Committee (Ttd/Pac) $1000
Capital One Financial Corp. Assoc. Political Fund $1000
Financial Planning Association Political Action Committee $1000
Ch2m Hill Companies Ltd Pac $1000
Minn-Dak Farmers Cooperative Political Action Committee (Mdfpac) $1000
Computer Sciences Corporation Pac $1000
Patton Boggs Pac $1000
Cingular Wireless Llc Employee Pac $1000
Genworth Financial Inc Political Action Committee Aka Genworth Pac $1000
Bp Corporation North America Inc. Political Action Committee $1000
Diageo North America Inc. Employees' Political Participation Committee $1000
Alliant Techsystems Inc Employee Citizenship Fund $1000
Anheuser-Busch Companies Inc. Political Action Committee $1000
Orbpac (The Political Action Committee Of Orbital Sciences) $1000
National Association Of Health Underwriters Pac (Hupac) $1000
Cummins Inc Political Action Committee (Cipac) $1000
Verizon Communication Inc Good Govt Club $1000
National Emergency Medicine Political Action Committee $1000
Dominion Political Action Committee $1000
Bristol-Myers Squibb Company Employee Political Action Committee $1000
Bridgestone Americas Holding Inc. Political Action Committee $1000
National Committee To Preserve Social Security & Medicare Pac $1000
College Of American Pathologists Political Action Committee $1000
Bechtel Pac Committee $1000
Chicago Board Of Options Exchange Inc Pac $1000
Property Casualty Insurers Association Of America Political Action Committee (Pcipac) $1000
Unitedhealth Group Incorporated Pac (United For Health) $1000
Qwest Communications International Inc Political Action Committee $1000
Buspac-Political Action Committee Of The American Bus Association $1000
Mercantile Bankshares Corporation Political Action Committee; Mbc Pac (Acronym) $1000
American Hospital Association Pac $1000
Ppl People For Good Government (Pplpgg) $1000
Recording Industry Assoc/America Inc Political Action Committee
(Fka Recording Arts Pac) $1000
National Stone Sand & Gravel Association Rockpac $1000
Hsbc North America Political Action Committee (H-Pac) $1000
Brotherhood Of Railroad Signalmen Political Action Committee $1000
Morgan Stanley Political Action Committee $1000
Citigroup Inc. Political Action Committee-Federal (Citigroup Pac-Federal) $1000
Calpine Corporation Political Action Committee $1000
Becton Dickinson And Company Political Action Committee (Bd Pac) $1000
Dean Foods Company Political Action Committee $1000
Procter & Gamble Company Good Government Committee (Aka P&G Pac), $1000
The American Crystal Sugar Company Political Action Committee $1000
American Psychiatric Association Political Action Committee $1000
Principal Life Insurance Company Political Action Committee $1000
Carefirst Bluecross Blueshield Associates' Federal Pac $1000
National Association Of Broadcasters Television And Radio Political Action Committee $1000
United Technologies Corporation Political Action Committee $1000
Caremark Rx Inc Employees Political Action Committee $1000
Williams And Jensen Pllc Political Action Committee $1000
City Political Action Committee (Citypac) $1000
Albanian American Public Affairs Committee $1000
Florida Sugar Cane League Pac $1000
Masters, Mates And Pilots Political Contribution Fund $1000
Mcguirewoods Llp $1395
Professional Airways Systems Specialists $1500
Action Committee For Rural Electrification (Acre) National Rural Electric Coop. Assoc. $1500
Deloitte & Touche Federal Political Action Committee $1500
Grant Thornton Llp Political Action Committee Llc $1500
Washington Gas Light Company Political Action Committee $1500
American Institute Of Certified Public Accountants Political Action Committee $1606
Vanguard Committee For Responsible Government $2000
Aflac Incorporated Political Action Committee Aflacpac $2000
The Coca-Cola Company Nonpartisan Committee For Good Government $2000
Pitney Bowes Inc Political Action Committee $2000
National Association Of Realtors Political Action Committee $2000
Nelson, Mullins, Riley & Scarborough Federal Political Committee $2000
General Electric Company Political Action Committee $2000
Nea Fund For Children And Public Education $2000
Association Of American Railroads Political Action Committee (Rail Pac) $2000
At&T Corp Political Action Committee (At&T Pac) $2000
First Health Group Corp-Coventry Health Care Inc. Pac $2000
Norfolk Southern Corporation Good Government Fund $2000
Anteon Corporation Pac $2000
Wine And Spirits Wholesalers Of America Inc. Political Action Committee $2000
District No 1-Pcd Meba Political Action Fund (Meba-Paf) $2000
Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corporation Railpac (Bnsf Railpac) $2000
American Sugar Cane League Of Usa Inc Political Action Committee $2000
Dte Energy Co. Pac - Federal $2000
Sprint Nextel Corporation Political Action Committee $2000
Drs Technologies Inc. Good Government Fund $2000
Sallie Mae Inc Political Action Committee (Sallie Mae Pac) $2000
American Academy Of Otolaryngology - Head And Neck Surger $2000
Union Pacific Corp. Fund For Effective Government $2000
American Council Of Life Insurers Political Action Committee $2000
Responsible Citizens Political League A Project Of The Trans.
Comm. Int'L. Union/Iam $2000
American Society Of Anesthesiologists Political Action Committee $2000
Americans For Good Government Inc $2000
Ascap Legislative Fund For The Arts, The $2000
The Pricewaterhousecoopers Political Action Committee I $2000
Kpmg Partners/Principals & Employees Political Action Committee $2000
Rr Donnelley Good Government Fund $2000
Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Company Political Action Committee $2000
International Brotherhood Of Boilermakers In Sp
Bldrs Bkmths Frgrs & Hlprs-Leg Ed..Fund $2000
Smithkline Beecham Corporation Political Action
Committee (Glaxosmithkline Pac) $2000
Credit Union Legislative Action Council Of Cuna $2000
Level 3 Communications Inc Political Action Committee $2000
Liberty Mutual Insurance Company-Pac $2000
Pacific Life Insurance Company Political Action Committee $2000
Csx Corporation Good Government Fund $2000
Dyncorp Federal Pac - An Affiliate Of Computer Sciences Corporation Pac $2000
American Society Of Association Executives Apac $2000
Cap-Pac (Ssf Of Ncaf) $2000
American Association Of Nurse Anesthetists
Separate Segregated Fund (Crna-Pac) $2000
Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association Political Action Committee $2000
Pepco Holdings Inc Political Action Committee ('Phi Pac') $2050
Directv Group Inc. Fund -- Federal, $2500
The Federal National Mortgage Association Poltical Action
Committee Aka Fannie Mae Pac $2500
Washington Political Action Committee $2500
Safeway Inc. Political Action Committee (Safepac) $2500
Amalgamated Transit Union-Cope $2500
Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc. Pac $2500
Ncr Corporation Citizenship Fund $2500
Committee On Letter Carriers Political Education
(Letter Carriers Political Action Fund) $2500
Joint Action Committee For Political Affairs $2500
Bellsouth Corporation Employees' Federal Political Action Committee $2500
Brinker International Inc Political Action Committee $2500
Siemens Corporation Political Action Committee $3000
Women'S Alliance For Israel $3000
Engineers Political Education Committee (Epec)/International
Union Of Operating Engineers $3000
American Pilots' Association Political Action Committee $3000
Fraternity And Sorority Political Action Committee $3000
Bank Of America Corporation State And Federal Political Action Committee $3000
Metlife Inc. Employees' Political Participation Fund A $3000
Mci Llc Employees Political Action Committee $3000
Investment Company Institute Political Action Committee (Ici Pac) $3000
General Dynamics Voluntary Political Contribution Plan (Gdvpcp) $3000
Boeing Political Action Committee $3500
Comcast Corp. Political Action Committee $3500
Mantech International Corporation Political Action Committee $3500
Science Applications International Corporation Voluntary
Political Action Committee $3500
Uaw - V - Cap (Uaw Voluntary Community Action Program) $4000
Mortgage Bankers Association Of America Political Action Committee $4000
American Maritime Officers Voluntary Political Action Fund $4000
Venturepac $4000
American Federation Of Govt. Empl. Political Action Committee $4500
Bae Systems North America Inc. Political Action Committee
(Bae Systems Usa Pac) $4500
Motorola Inc. Political Action Committee $4500
Afl-Cio Cope Political Contributions Committee $4500
Gannett Fleming Inc Federal Pac $4500
International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers Committee
On Political Education $5000
Daimlerchrysler Corporation Political Support Committee $5000
American Postal Workers Union Committee On Political Action $5000
Federal Express Political Action Committee $5000
Jacobs Good Government Fund Of Jacobs Engineering Group Inc. $5000
National Pac Inc A/K/A Natpac $5000
Service Employees International Union Committee On Political
Education (Seiu Cope) $5000
At&T Inc. Federal Political Action Committee (At&T Federal Pac) $5000
Air Line Pilots Association Pac $5000
Coca-Cola Enterprises Inc Employees Pac $5000
Dealers Election Action Committee Of The National
Automotive Dealers Association $5000
New York Stock Exchange Inc. Employee Political Action Committee $5000
Human Rights Campaign Pac $5000
Ernst & Young Political Action Committee $5000
Exelon Corporation Political Action Committee (Exelonpac) $5000
American Bankers Association Pac (Bankpac) $5000
International Union Of Painters And Allied Trades Political Action
Together Political Comm $5000
Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation Political Action Committee
Aka Freddiepac $5000
Raytheon Company Political Action Committee $5000
American Resort Development Association Resort Owners
Coalition Pac (Arda-Roc Pac) $5000
Build Political Action Committee Of The National Association Of Home Builders $5000
United Transportation Union Political Action Committee (Utu Pac) $5000
Employees Of Northrop Grumman Corporation Pac $5000
Unitehere T I P - 'To Insure Progress' $5000
Constellation Energy Group Inc. Federal Pac $5000
Parsons Corporation Political Action Committee $5000
New York Life Insurance Company Political Action Committee $5000
Carpenters Legislative Improvement Committee United Brotherhood
Of Carpenters And Joiners $5000
Intl. Union Of Bricklayers & Allied Craftworkers Pac $5000
Securities Industry Association Political Action Committee $5000
Laborers' Political League-Laborers' International Union Of Na $5000
International Association Of Firefighters Interested In
Registration And Education Pac $5000
Sheet Metal Workers' International Association Political Action League $5000
American Dental Political Action Cmte. $5000
National Beer Wholesalers Association Political Action Committee $5000
National Active And Retired Federal Employees Association Political
Action Com (Narfe-Pac) $5000
United Parcel Service Inc. Political Action Committee $5500
National Air Traffic Controllers Association Political Action
Committee (Aka Natca Pac) $6000
Treasury Employees Political Action Committee $6000
Drive - Democrat Republican Independent Voter Education –
Pac For Int'L Brotherhood Of T $6000
National Association Of Postmasters Of The United States (Napus Pac) $6000
Int'L. Association Of Bridge Structural Ornamental & Reinforcing
Iron Workers (Ipal) $7000
Association Of Trial Lawyers Of America Political Action Committee (Atla Pac) $7500
United Food & Commercial Workers International Union Active Ballot Club $7500
National Cable And Telecommunications Association Political
Action Committee (Ncta Pac) $10000
Ubs Americas Fund For Better Government $10000
American Federation Of State County & Municipal Employees –
P E O P L E, Qualified $10000

Term limits, absolutely....term limits should be enforced on any elected person. I don't want to see any more Ted Kennedy's...he's been a senator for so long that he's forgotten what it's like to be a citizen...and there are many more examples of this...

Two terms would be plenty.

RR

he's been a senator for so long that he's forgotten what it's like to be a citizen.

Ted Kennedy is a citizen? Of what country?

Originally Posted by JuniusJnr

he's been a senator for so long that he's forgotten what it's like to be a citizen.

Ted Kennedy is a citizen? Of what country?

Well after Kennedy and McCains Trip last year to Mexico. I wonder what country.

lead to dictatorship be it the President, congressmen or senators. To clarify what I said about PAC's being outlawed (thanks Juniusjnr) I was talking about all these lobbyest that give money to politicians thus buying our government. GET RID OF ALL LOBBYEST and then maybe we can get our government back. Money talks, take away their money so they can do what they were lected to do. Represent US!

Yes Get Rid of the Lobbyists. I hardly see how that can be legal...I mean..it's theft...they're stealing out government.

RR

No doubt some of the old timers believe that government is for sale and they pass on the practice to new people. We need to make sure we vote out every single one of the losers we can in 2006 and then come back after the rest of them in 2008.