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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockfish
    Protective Order? Hmm..code words for a cover up. His birth cert should be a matter of public record since he is running for public office. This judge has been bought or threatened..he should have turned the request for this 'protective order' down right away.
    It seems that Hawaii is one of the states that will not release a birth certificate without that persons permission and Obama has refused his permission.

    At this point, after all of Obama's and the DNC's legal manuverings, I m more inclined to believe that he was foreign born and ineligible to become POTUS. You can be a foreign-born US citizen to hold any office EXCEPT that of POTUS. That certainly would be why this question issue was never raised before.
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    Media reports on Philip Berg lawsuit

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    No news..... It seems like the judge is sitting on his decision to give berg discovery....stalling? I don't know but unless the judge grants discovery or throws it out he is definitely stalling.
    Here is the link to the court but the website is so confusing I can't find anything maybe someone else can?

    http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/
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    A second lawsuit is filed in Washington State.

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    Related article from August.


    Lawsuit Filed Against Obama Claims He's Not Eligible for the Presidency

    Submitted by Julie on August 23, 2008 - 12:06pm. Elections Elections 2008 News Politics U.S. Politics


    Philip J. Berg, Esquire, of Pennsylvania filed a lawsuit on Thursday seeking a Declaratory Judgement and Injunction that Barack Obama does not meet the qualifications to become President of the United States. In the lawsuit Berg alleges that Obama is not eligible for the presidency because he is not a naturalized citizen, and/or lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia, and/or has duel citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

    Berg said that he has filed the suit on behalf of the Democratic Party and citizens of the United States for their best interests. Berg, an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, filed the lawsuit, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, in Federal Court.

    In the filing Berg says:

    There have been numerous questions raised about Obama’s background with no satisfactory answers. The questions that I have addressed include, but are not limited to:

    1. Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada; or ?

    2. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?

    3. What was the early childhood of Obama in Hawaii; in Kenya; in Indonesia when he was adopted; and later, back to Hawaii?

    4. An explanation as to the various names utilized by Obama that include: Barack Hussein Obama; Barry Soetoro; Barry Obama; Barack Dunham; and Barry Dunham.

    5. Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.

    If Obama can prove U.S. citizenship, we still have the issue of muti-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegance to other countries.

    Berg goes on to make very direct accusations against Obama, stating that he "lied and cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process."

    Interestingly, Obama isn't the only one who's citizenship has been questioned in this election. John McCain's citizenship was also questioned because he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone, which is not a US territory.

    The full court filings and claims can be found at ObamaCrimes.com, Berg's website. Philip J. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, former candidate for Govenor and US Senate in Democratic Primaries, former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County, and former member of the Democratic State Commitee.

    This filing comes less than two weeks after an AP photo was revealed of the school register of a child then known as Barry Soetoro, now known as Barack Hussein Obama, whose citizenship was listed as "Indonesian" and whose religion was listed as "Islam." the photo strongly contradicts the Obama camp's claim that he was not a Muslim, and is said to confirm he is a national of at least one other country. The AP has confirmed the authenticity of the photograph.







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    Here is the problem, if the judge holds this off until after the election and Barry/ Barrack is proved to not be qualified but wins the election, it may be up to the democratic congress to impeach him. What are the odds they would actully do it?
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    Here is the problem, if the judge holds this off until after the election and Barry/ Barrack is proved to not be qualified but wins the election, it may be up to the democratic congress to impeach him. What are the odds they would actully do it?


    20 months ago: This undated handout photo obtained from Bandung, a former senior schoolmate of US senator and presidential hopeful Barack Obama, shows Obama (yellow ring) in a group photo with others in Jakarta. Indonesian former classmates of Obama have high hopes of the "kindhearted and confident" boy they knew as Barry who is aiming to become the first black president of the United States. When he was six years old, Obama moved to Indonesia after his divorced mother remarried an Indonesian foreign student, Lolo Soetoro. His classmates still recall the day nearly 40 years ago when a foreign kid joined them at the state-run SDN Menteng 01 school in the upmarket Menteng district of Jakarta. Obama, 45, says Indonesia left a lasting impression on him during his formative years.
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/06gk85kf3h3BQ

    In order for Barry/Barrack to go to school in Indonesia, he had to be a citizen. They did not have dual citizenship at that time, so he would have given that up through his mother. The only way he could be a citizen of the United States is if he came back and went through the citizenship process which would make him ineligible to be president.

    I spoke with Mr Berg the other day on this at length. If Obama wanted this to end, all he would have to do is produce the documents that are asked for. But if he doesnt have them, then he cannot produce them.
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    Another video questioning Obama's questionable ties. This time to Odinga. Odinga also ran with the logo CHANGE. Hmmm. Is there a pattern here. This was posted on Worldnetdaily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp_48504


    Here is the problem, if the judge holds this off until after the election and Barry/ Barrack is proved to not be qualified but wins the election, it may be up to the democratic congress to impeach him. What are the odds they would actully do it?


    20 months ago: This undated handout photo obtained from Bandung, a former senior schoolmate of US senator and presidential hopeful Barack Obama, shows Obama (yellow ring) in a group photo with others in Jakarta. Indonesian former classmates of Obama have high hopes of the "kindhearted and confident" boy they knew as Barry who is aiming to become the first black president of the United States. When he was six years old, Obama moved to Indonesia after his divorced mother remarried an Indonesian foreign student, Lolo Soetoro. His classmates still recall the day nearly 40 years ago when a foreign kid joined them at the state-run SDN Menteng 01 school in the upmarket Menteng district of Jakarta. Obama, 45, says Indonesia left a lasting impression on him during his formative years.
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/06gk85kf3h3BQ

    In order for Barry/Barrack to go to school in Indonesia, he had to be a citizen. They did not have dual citizenship at that time, so he would have given that up through his mother. The only way he could be a citizen of the United States is if he came back and went through the citizenship process which would make him ineligible to be president.

    I spoke with Mr Berg the other day on this at length. If Obama wanted this to end, all he would have to do is produce the documents that are asked for. But if he doesnt have them, then he cannot produce them.
    I was thinking in 1961 they only had typewriters and hand written documents. So I would assume that any kind of real birth cert would be hand written and archived? Did berg mention any of that?
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