Thread: Majority leader: House will pass health bill by Saturday

By ERICA WERNER and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writers Erica Werner And Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar, Associated Press Writers – 24 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The second-ranking House Democrat predicted that historic health care legislation will be passed Saturday as the AARP, the nation's premier lobbying group for the elderly, announced it was signing on to the bill.

Rep. Steny Hoyer said House leaders expect to have the 218 votes needed to pass the sweeping bill, which would extend coverage to tens of millions of uninsured people and ban insurance companies from turning people away. President Barack Obama has the health care overhaul the defining social goal of his young administration. Hoyer acknowledged that the vote could be tight, and he said his prediction of passage is predicated on the expectation that a couple remaining obstacles can be surmounted.

"I wouldn't refer to it as a squeaker, but I think it's going to be close," Hoyer said. "This is a huge undertaking."

The Maryland Democrat said language on abortion and illegal immigrants was still being worked out, but predicted those issues could be solved in time for Saturday's scheduled debate and vote on the 10-year, $1.2 trillion legislation.

"We certainly have well over 218 people who say they want to vote for the bill," Hoyer said in an interview with wire service reporters.

"The trick is making sure they have a comfort level with the provisions they are particularly focused on to allow them to do so," he said. "So I think that's what we're in the final stages of trying to get to."

Obama planned a rare trip to the House on Friday to try to win over wavering lawmakers.

Strong opposition persists on the Hill, however, and Republican leaders planned an appearance later Thursday outside the Capitol at a rally and protest led by anti-big-government "tea party" activists.

Hoyer said the bill's endorsement by the powerful seniors' lobby AARP, announced Thursday, was a significant boost.

AARP Senior Policy Adviser John Rother said the 40-million strong organization favors the House bill because it closes the coverage gap in Medicare prescription benefits, puts strict limits on what health insurers can charge older workers too young for Medicare and creates a voluntary, long-term care insurance program.

"The bill does improve quality, and it improves access," said Rother. "When people hear this message from us, it will have impact." AARP will reach out to its state and local chapters ahead of the House vote, particularly in districts with a large numbers of older people and a lawmaker who's undecided.

The American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network also announced its support for the legislation Thursday, and the American Medical Association, which had endorsed an earlier version of the bill, scheduled a midday press call to weigh in.

Action is slower on the other side of the Capitol, where senators are awaiting an analysis from the Congressional Budget Office on legislation written by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and others. The timeline there appears likely to spill into next year.

The AARP's backing is a big boost for the House effort. Support from this group proved a crucial stamp of approval when then-President George W. Bush pushed the Medicare prescription drug benefit through a closely divided Congress in 2003.

With no GOP backing, Democrats will need overwhelming support from within their own caucus. An intraparty disagreement over how to prevent federal funds from being used to pay for abortion has not yet been entirely resolved, though Hoyer said that language being circulated by one anti-abortion Democrat, Rep. Brad Ellsworth of Indiana, seemed likely to be the basis for an agreement.

Ellsworth's language aims to strengthen stipulations already in the bill against federal money being used to pay for abortions. It would still allow people to pay for abortion coverage with their own money.

That distinction doesn't satisfy anti-abortion groups, which dismiss it as an accounting gimmick. They say federal subsidies for insurance coverage would not be clearly segregated from private funds used to pay for abortions.

The National Right to Life Committee issued a blistering press release Wednesday night calling Ellsworth's proposal "a political fig leaf made out of cellophane."

Ellsworth said that didn't bother him: "I know what's in my heart, I know what's in my head and I think the big guy upstairs knows," he said.

House leaders are also still grappling with illegal immigration, specifically whether illegal immigrants — who would be barred from getting federal subsidies — should be able to purchase insurance coverage within new government "exchanges," using their own money.

The White House does not want this allowed, but some members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and other Democrats view that position as too extreme. Hispanic Caucus officials were scheduled to meet with Obama at the White House on Thursday.

The House bill would provide government subsidies beginning in 2013 to extend coverage to millions who now lack it. Self-employed people and small businesses could buy coverage through the new exchanges, either from a private insurer or a new government plan that would compete. All the plans sold through the exchange would have to follow basic consumer protection rules.

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Associated Press writers David Espo and Alan Fram contributed to this report.
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These two men Tresurer Jaime Martinez Civil Rights Director Henry Rodriguez national officers of LULAC are very happy because Nancy Pelosi has just implied in a speech to the combined Minority Caucus Health Coference that illegal aliens will be covered by Obamacare. Who knows what she said off the microphone. Both men held a hand on her waist.

Compare that with her reaction here.
Speaker Pelosi Not Happy Being Touched By Sen Reid?
http://www.youtube.com/v/4VE2VdmceZc&hl
I wonder what old Senator Harry said wrong
the LULAC Latinos had their hands closer to her nalga.

Please see alert here..help needed

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-177012.html

Hoyer said the bill's endorsement by the powerful seniors' lobby AARP, announced Thursday, was a significant boost.

The AARP does not speak for the majority of senior citizens. Thousands of seniors canceled their memberships because of their first endoresement which they claimed they didnt make. And the AMA does not reflect the opinion of the majority of doctors who are against the health care bill. THESE LIARS WILL DO ANYTHING TO SHOVE POOP DOWN OUR THROATS.

AARP are nothing but predators who prey on the elderly to line their pockets.

After all, somebody needs to pay for their lobbying. Might as well rape the senior citizen who's worked all their life and might be a little (mentally) slower now than their fast-talking salesmen and women.

After what I observed with my parents I cannot stomach anything to do with that group.

Unless they don't want to hold on to their seats in Congress, I wouldn't advise Dems to vote for this boondoggle. Listen to your constituents, not the WH or special interests. They won't be able to save you come election time. Reid is done, he'll be gone in less than a year. I'd say the same for Pelosi. She may not lose her seat, but she will no longer be speaker. That'll be a kick for her...demotion.

What angers me most is that American people will have no chance for reading, contemplating or advising our legislators what we would like to see before the vote. And even if we did, there is no guarantee there won't be midnight amendments for bridges to nowhere, which none of the legislators have had time to read.

Originally Posted by vortex

What angers me most is that American people will have no chance for reading, contemplating or advising our legislators what we would like to see before the vote. And even if we did, there is no guarantee there won't be midnight amendments for bridges to nowhere, which none of the legislators have had time to read.

Exactly!

Government by the "government" - not government by the people.

Sorry. My budget doesn't allow for bridges to nowhere. Given the deficit, neither does theirs.

Those damn amendments need to be done away with. This is the bill. No amendments. No pork. Nothing. Just the bill. Vote on it.

Wow. Short reading, wouldn't it be? A whole lot shorter without the "amendments".

Maybe something would get done in Congress that way.

What has angered me the most is the mindset that we will teach other nations around the world democracy. The problem is that other nations can see exactly what is going on in this country (how Congress has been acting lately) and these are not the lessons of democracy I want them to see.