Thread: New McCain Detention without trial Bill

McCain and Lieberman's Nightmarish Detention Bill
March 13, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

One of Congress’s most notoriously hawkish duos, Sen. John McCain [R, AZ] and Sen. Joseph Lieberman [I, CT], recently introduced legislation in response to President Obama’s decision to try Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Christmas Day airplane bomber, in a criminal court. Their proposal, which they are calling the Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention and Prosecution Act, would empower the U.S. military to arrest anyone, U.S. citizen or otherwise, who is suspected of terrorist associations and detain them indefinitely, without right to a trial.

Here’s my analysis with links to specific sections of the actual bill text and a few excerpts of key sections. I invite your fact-checking.

Terrorist suspects would be given over to military custody for interrogation:

(a) Military Custody Requirement- Whenever within the United States, its territories, and possessions, or outside the territorial limits of the United States, an individual is captured or otherwise comes into the custody or under the effective control of the United States who is suspected of engaging in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners through an act of terrorism, or by other means in violation of the laws of war, or of purposely and materially supporting such hostilities, and who may be an unprivileged enemy belligerent, the individual shall be placed in military custody for purposes of initial interrogation and determination of status in accordance with the provisions of this Act.

People would have to be given over to the military within a “reasonable timeâ€

Should be no constitutional issues with this bill... Won't this fit in nicely with the home grown anti government act... Look'n real good ain't it...

I have sent a note to my Senator about this. I can see some very real issues, with DHS labeling christian groups, anti illegal immigration groups or people with Ron Paul bumper stickers as being terror threats.

Originally Posted by Newmexican

I have sent a note to my Senator about this. I can see some very real issues, with DHS labeling christian groups, anti illegal immigration groups or people with Ron Paul bumper stickers as being terror threats.

Oh dude...this is getting really bad... Those fema camps are looking pretty daunting...

Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act Raises Fears of New Government Crackdown on Dissent

A little-noticed anti-terrorism bill quietly making its way through Congress is raising fears of a new affront on activism and constitutional rights. The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act was passed in an overwhelming 400 to six House vote last month. Critics say it could herald a new government crackdown on dissident activity and infiltration of universities under the guise of fighting terrorism. The bill would establish two government-appointed bodies to study, monitor and propose ways of curbing what it calls homegrown terrorism and extremism in the United States. The first body, a National Commission, would convene for eighteen months. A university-based "Center for Excellence" would follow, bringing together academic specialists to recommend laws and other measures.

Critics say the bill’s definition of "extremism" and "terrorism" is too vague and its mandate even more broad. Under a false veil of expertise and independence, the government-appointed commissions could be used as ideological cover to push through harsher laws.

Following last month’s approval in the House, the Senate version is expected to go before the Judiciary Committee this week.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/11/20/ ... ises_fears

All this going on while we are trying to get a few IA to show ID....

for those of you in Arizona that were not sure about McCain.. this better wake you up... This could mean you... Indefinate detention

anyone the Federal Government suspects, for any reason .. POOF

all of you half dumb and crazy; half lame and lazy that want to vote for McCain because he all of the sudden see's the light are a bigger danger to America than this fruit cake is

(half dumb and crazy; half lame and lazy) Military Terminology

This sends chills down my spine. Everyone in Arizona should read this.
EVERYONE should read this. Every American citizen should read this.

How Ironic would it be if you vote for McCain .. then some where down the road you just end up locked away because of a bill that he is pushing hard on "Because someone somewhere, some CZAR says you are UN-American

Woudnt that be a hoot

Dont forget to yell through the bar's "I voted for you McCain" in the hopes that he has pity

but loud enough the rest of us can look at the Ironic dumb A@@ behind the steel curtain

take smokes with you.. maybe you can pay off bubba

Any "solitary cause" groups are now considered radical and pose a terrorist risk. That includes the Tea Party patriots and Alipack members.