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U.S. Rolls Over on Iran Nuke Program

Posted by Joe For America on Nov 24, 2013

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Nothing good happens late at night, and America just had a modern-day Neville Chamberlain moment. At 3 am in Geneva, Iran and 6 major powers agreed to “temporary relief” of sanctions in return for Iran stopping or scaling back parts of its nuclear program. President Obama has just empowered the number one state sponsor of terrorism, Iran, to pursue its nuclear goals and objectives.

This is not diplomacy, this is abject surrender and appeasement. Iran loses nothing, not a single facility, not any capability to enrich uranium, but we have conceded the one best non-military option: economic sanctions.

President Bill Clinton promised the same in regards to North Korea, and did that have any effect? Not to mention that North Korea has taken an 85-year-old Korean War veteran into detention, and of course we have done nothing.

Iran has held American Christian minister, Saeed Abedini, in prison for nearly a year, and President Obama said nothing about his fate, nor demanded his release. Israel and Saudi Arabia have lost all trust and confidence in America as a credible ally.

Secretary Kerry said the objective is “to require Iran to prove the peaceful nature of its nuclear program.” Yeah, right. We have fallen for the biggest deception ever. Perhaps these inept progressives should study the model for Islamic totalitarian negotiations, Muhammad’s Treaty of Hudaybiyyah. As well, they need to understand the principle of taquiyya – lying to “infidels” to promote the advancement of Islamic conquest and objectives.

The goal of the sanctions was to bring Iran to its knees and force them to surrender their march towards a nuclear weapon capability — not to get them to negotiate. The agreed-upon measures are in effect for six months, then what?

Right, another red line, that ends up not being a red line, and then we do nothing. Iran already has a capability and are close to having the requisite plutonium. Who in the international community will verify?

The Obama administration is in such a hurry to have SOMEthing going right, they’ve done something that will go very wrong.

We are promising relief along with the lifting of economic sanctions, but this should not have been promised until after complete verification of the terms of nuclear capacity reduction, at minimum over the period of a year.

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These politicians are apparently trained well ....

by Richard Fernandez



Pay Now, Buy Later

November 23rd, 2013 - 8:48 pm


Tonight President Obama announced a deal with Iran to halt its progress towards nuclear weapons. Whether the deal accomplishes that is still unknown.

There is plenty of detail about the interim promises. Iran has promised to freeze its nuclear enrichment, and President Obama has decided to trust it by scaling back existing sanctions and undertaking not to reimpose them until Tehran has a chance to prove itself. But none of the detail is relevant to the underlying issue: whether the talks will curb Iran’s nuclear ambitions or merely serve as cover to advance them. Media coverage has been uncharacteristically cautious, oscillating between optimism and dire warnings that the agreement is but temporary and may in fact increase risks. As MSNBC put it: Obama has a deal with with an untrusted party.

Those kinds of deals can be good news. They can also be bad news.

Obama himself characterized it as a first step. He was at pains to point out that the real deal that is supposed to inhibit Iran from nuclearizing is still in the future; that tonight’s agreement was but the first step on a ladder of uncertain height. In the metaphor of theater, Obama has raised the curtain, but is unable to say what the ending of the play will be.

There will of course be guesses. Some will argue that Obama made a pre-arranged deal with Iran that sells Israel out. Others will argue that Obama has seized an “historic opportunity” that will help Israel in spite of itself. What no one, either for or against, can dispute is that the package which Obama dramatically laid on the table is still unopened.

It’s still a box of mysteries, a delivery receipt on a future event. What does it contain? A recipe for regional peace? Or does it conceal a ticking timebomb.

The dice are still in midair.

The regional powers will react based on the belief of its probable outcome even before the dice land. Tehran’s past behavior and the singular ineptitude of Obama in Middle Eastern politics make peace less than a sure thing. Given what is at stake, nations of the region can hardly trust to Obama’s luck. Everyone — and that includes Iran — will hedge their bets.

What is interesting about Obama’s mystery box deal is it has the potential to both stabilize and destabilize the current situation. Israel and Saudi Arabia are under particular pressure to make up their minds about whether to sign on. For the deal has set in train both a set of opportunities and dangers and the regional powers must be ready for either.

This deal is unlikely to convince the skeptics to get on board. If Obama wanted to encourage them to sign on, he might have provided more detail, more surety of its destination. But he himself cannot say. President Obama’s description of his “historic” deal was so bereft of detail it almost amounted to a full-page ad announcing that he had kicked the can down the road yet again.

For in truth Obama had to make two sales tonight: the obvious one to Iran and the less obvious one to the Gulf states and Israel. He sold Iran nothing. Rather, he bought a promise from them and a process to revisit the whole issue in six months. He traded in Hope, which is always what he sells anyway. But in the past he mostly sold hope to dopes, and in this case his market is a regionful of cynics. They will be more discriminating. The actual product is little to be seen. The very vagueness of his deal may actually militate against closing any deal with Israel and the Saudis.

When a salesman cannot show a product, but only the promise of a product, he inevitably raises the question of whether it exists at all; or whether vaporware is all there is. And what is the product? The ultimate foundation for peace in the Middle East is not keeping Iran from obtaining a particular weapon but forestalling a dynamic of fear and mistrust in which an arms race and rising tensions spiral uncontrollably.

Obama has a piece of paper. What he does not have in hand yet is a vehicle for reducing tensions in the region. He can pour gasoline on the flames to be sure. The Arab Spring and the red lines have by accident produced a most contrary result. The great danger is that the price of his piece of paper will also be to increase, rather than reduce, the suspicion and enmity in the region.

The next few days will show whether Iran’s neighbors are calmed by Obama’s demarche or whether they are spurred to panic. Their fears might have subsided if they trusted Obama. But if they misgive him and from this pact mistrust him even more, then they will assume worst and prepare — alas — accordingly.

The greatest contribution to peace that Obama can make in the Middle East would be to restore his — and America’s — credibility. If the dice come down Snake Eyes, who’ll be around for the second throw?

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The ‘Freeze’ That Wasn’t: U.S. Says There’s No Right to Enrich, Iran Says There Is

Lawmakers say "cosmetic concessions" are useless without halting centrifuges, while Kerry claims "it will make our ally, Israel, safer."



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November 23, 2013 - 10:15 pm

WASHINGTON — In the early morning hours in Geneva, the P5+1 powers negotiating with Iran over its nuclear program announced an agreement giving Iran a wait-and-see buffer to fulfill some conditions over the next six months, while the U.S. will give the green light now to some $7 billion in sanctions relief.

The administration also claimed it wasn’t recognizing Iran’s right to enrichment uranium, while Iran’s top nuclear negotiator, Deputy Foreign Minister Seyyed Abbas Araqchi, specifically told Iranian media that the agreement recognizes the country’s “enrichment program” and they wouldn’t have accepted a deal that didn’t recognize the right to enrich.

“Since I took office, I’ve made clear my determination to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. As I’ve said many times, my strong preference is to resolve this issue peacefully, and we’ve extended the hand of diplomacy,” President Obama said in a statement at about 10:45 p.m. Eastern time, calling his diplomacy a venture that has “opened up a new path toward a world that is more secure.”
Obama claimed the deal included “substantial limitations which will help prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon.”

“Simply put, they cut off Iran’s most likely paths to a bomb. Meanwhile, this first step will create time and space over the next six months for more negotiations to fully address our comprehensive concerns about the Iranian program,” he said. “And because of this agreement, Iran cannot use negotiations as cover to advance its program.”

Obama said Iran “should be able to access peaceful nuclear energy” but “because of its record of violating its obligations, Iran must accept strict limitations on its nuclear program that make it impossible to develop a nuclear weapon.”

“In these negotiations, nothing will be agreed to unless everything is agreed to. The burden is on Iran to prove to the world that its nuclear program will be exclusively for peaceful purposes.”

Analysts and lawmakers quickly jumped on the deal, noting that any pact that does not halt the construction of centrifuges is basically worthless.
“Unless the agreement requires dismantling of the Iranian centrifuges, we really haven’t gained anything,” tweeted Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

Sen. Mark Kirk, who has led tough sanctions legislation in the upper chamber along with Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), said “this deal appears to provide the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism with billions of dollars in exchange for cosmetic concessions that neither fully freeze nor significantly roll back its nuclear infrastructure.”

“Furthermore, the deal ignores Iran’s continued sponsorship of terrorism, its testing of long-range ballistic missiles and its abuse of human rights,” Kirk added.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said there is no “freeze” on Iran’s nuclear program and noted it doesn’t even require the Islamic Republic to abide by UN Security Council resolutions.

“This agreement shows other rogue states that wish to go nuclear that you can obfuscate, cheat, and lie for a decade, and eventually the United States will tire and drop key demands,” Rubio said. “Iran will likely use this agreement – and any that follows that does not require any real concessions – to obtain a nuclear weapons capability.”

A senior administration official told reporters on a call just before midnight that Security Council resolutions will be “addressed” over the next six months of negotiations as the U.S. tries to find “certainty that Iran cannot use that program to achieve a nuclear weapon.”

The official said the deal was a “more durable way of solving the problem” with Iran’s nuclear program, favoring diplomacy because it’s “verifiable” and doesn’t carry the “costs and consequences of military action.”

“We believe that this agreement addresses a number of concerns Israel’s had over the years,” the official said, noting that the Jewish state had been “briefed” on negotiations. “We frankly believe that you weren’t going to get to an end state from a standing start.”

According to a fact sheet released by the White House, the deal requires Iran to halt all enrichment above 5 percent and “dilute below 5% or convert to a form not suitable for further enrichment its entire stockpile of near-20% enriched uranium before the end of the initial phase.” Iran could “not install additional centrifuges of any type” and must “limit its centrifuge production to those needed to replace damaged machines, so Iran cannot use the six months to stockpile centrifuges.” Iran also must “not increase its stockpile of 3.5% low enriched uranium, so that the amount is not greater at the end of the six months than it is at the beginning, and any newly enriched 3.5% enriched uranium is converted into oxide.”

The deal also includes not fueling or putting into commission the Arak reactor and allowing daily access by IAEA inspectors at Natanz and Fordow.

“This daily access will permit inspectors to review surveillance camera footage to ensure comprehensive monitoring. This access will provide even greater transparency into enrichment at these sites and shorten detection time for any non-compliance,” the White House said. The IAEA would also get access to centrifuge assembly facilities and uranium mines, and design plans from the Arak reactor.
Notably, the agreement didn’t stipulate that the inspections would or could be unannounced.

“The P5+1 and Iran have committed to establishing a Joint Commission to work with the IAEA to monitor implementation and address issues that may arise,” the fact sheet continues. “The Joint Commission will also work with the IAEA to facilitate resolution of past and present concerns with respect to Iran’s nuclear program, including the possible military dimension of Iran’s nuclear program and Iran’s activities at Parchin.”
In return, the deal vows to “not impose new nuclear-related sanctions for six months, if Iran abides by its commitments under this deal, to the extent permissible within their political systems.” The White House said it doesn’t affect UN Security Council sanctions, but the text of the agreement says the UN can’t pass new sanctions.

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Coup d’état: Is it Possible, and When Will the Day Come?

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Israel vows 'whatever is necessary' to stop Iran

'All options on table' after Tehran strikes deal with West

Published: 15 hours ago

Israel will do “whatever is necessary” to stop Iran from going nuclear, declared Israeli Deputy Defense Minister Danny Danon in a radio interview Sunday.
Speaking on “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio” on New York’s WABC Radio, Danon warned all options are on the table after Iran and six world powers reached what is being described as an historic deal.
“We were not part of the negotiations,” he said. “We have not signed this agreement. And we will do whatever is necessary to protect Israel.”

Danon said, “We cannot allow ourselves to make a mistake. If it is a bad agreement and Iran is playing with the world, maybe the Western superpowers can afford to make such a mistake. It is not the case for Israel.”

Listen to the interview:

video at link below

Warned Danon: “We are not in a position of making a mistake or to gamble with our future. That is why I am saying it very clear. All options are still on the table. And if we see that Iran continues with the effort to build a nuclear bomb, we will do whatever is necessary to protect ourselves.”

The deal reached Sunday reportedly halts the installation of new centrifuges, but allows Iran to keep current centrifuges used to enrich uranium.
The agreement caps the amount and type of enriched uranium Iran can produce and opens many nuclear sites up to daily inspections. However, Israel is warning that even the low-grade uranium allowed in the agreement can be used to eventually assemble a nuclear weapon.

As part of the deal, Iran agreed to halt work on key components of its Arak heavy-water reactor that could be used to produce plutonium, but the country doesn’t have to dismantle the reactor.
In response, Iran gets sanctions relief, including the freeing of $7 billion or more in frozen assets.

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Considering the fact that Israel is "supposed" to be America's friend this should work well!!Even Saudi Arabia is pissed!!

Can we all say "Muslim Brotherhood" President Obama, doesn't work for us or our friends , are we awake yet???