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    Pat Buchanan: Is a U.S. Default Inevitable?

    Is a U.S. Default Inevitable?

    7/5/2011
    Pat Buchanan

    As President Bush prepared to invade Iraq in September 2002, the head of his economic policy council, Lawrence Lindsey publicly estimated such a war could cost $100 billion to $200 billion.

    Lindsey had committed candor, and the stunned Bushites came down on him with both feet.

    "Baloney," said Donald Rumsfeld. The likely cost would be $60 billion, said Mitch Daniels of the Office of Management and Budget. We can finance the war with Iraqi oil, said Paul Wolfowitz.

    By year's end, Lindsey was gone, back, in Ronald Reagan's phrase, "testing the magic of the marketplace."

    And the cost of the Iraq War? It has passed $1 trillion.

    So Lindsey is worth listening to. And he is now saving that the Obamaites may be wildly underestimating the deficits America is going to run in this decade. Here is why.

    The average rate of interest the Fed has had to pay to borrow for the last two decades has been 5.7 percent. However, President Obama is projecting the cost of money at only 2.5 percent.

    A return to the normal Fed rate would, by 2020, add $4.9 trillion to the cumulative deficit, says Lindsey, more than twice the $2 trillion in savings being discussed in Joe Biden's debt-ceiling deal.

    Second, Obama is estimating growth in 2012, 2013 and 2014 at 4, 4.5 and 4.1 percent. But the normal rate for a mature economy recovering from recession is 2.5 percent.

    Hence, if we return to a normal rate of growth, rather than rise to Obama's projected rate, says Lindsey, that would add $700 billion to the deficit over the next three years and $4 trillion by 2020.

    Taken together, a U.S. return to a normal rate of growth of 2.5 percent, higher than today, and a normal rate of interest for the Fed could add as much as $9 trillion to the deficits between now and 2020.

    New taxes on millionaires and billionaires who ride around in corporate jets can't cover a tenth of 1 percent of these deficits.

    Writes Lindsey, "Only serious long-term spending reduction in the entitlement area can begin to address the nation's deficit and debt problems."

    His conclusion is logical, but seems impossible to achieve when both parties are talking of taking Medicare and Social Security off the table. Which makes his final point all the more compelling:

    "Under current government policies and economic projections, (bondholders) should be far more concerned about a return of their principal in 10 years than about any short-term delay in interest payments in August."

    Lindsey is saying that the probability of U.S. bonds losing face value through inflation or default is high, given the size of the deficits we will be running and the improbability that any deficit-reduction plan now out there can significantly reduce them.

    Standard & Poor's and Moody's are already talking of downgrading U.S. debt if the debt ceiling is not raised by early August.

    Is America then headed for an inevitable default?

    One Chinese economist is already accusing us of defaulting, as the Fed's flooding of the world with dollars has seen the dollar lose 10 percent of its value against other currencies in the last year.

    Holding $1 trillion in U.S. debt, China has watched the purchasing power of that U.S. paper plummet. Understandably, Beijing fears that if we ever pay back all they have lent us, it will be in U.S. dollars of far lesser value.

    What should House Republicans do?

    Stick to their principles and convictions.

    For the cause of the deficit-debt crisis has been the explosion in federal spending under Barack Obama to the largest share of the U.S. economy since the climactic years of World War II.

    Administrations of both parties contributed to this rise in the federal share of gross domestic product. But the GOP committed itself in 2010 to rein it in, without raising taxes. On that pledge the GOP triumphed and should keep its commitment.

    First, because it is a solemn undertaking with a nation disgusted with politicians who say one thing and do another. Second, because our fiscal crisis, like Europe's, is a result of too much government, not too little revenue. Third, because there is no credible school of economic thought that says raising taxes on the productive sector when one in six workers is unemployed or underemployed is the way to prosperity.

    Under Obama these past two years, the nation relied on the U.S. government to pull us out of the ditch. But Obama's $787 billion stimulus, his three deficits of 10 percent of GDP, and Ben Bernanke's tripling of Fed assets by buying the bad paper of big banks and $600 billion in U.S. debt all failed.

    For Republicans to agree now to a tax increases that would violate their principles, their promises to the voters and their basic philosophy -- and be icing on the cake of Obama's debt-ceiling increase -- would be politically suicidal.

    Indeed, were the Republican Party to do this, it would raise the question of why we need a Republican Party.

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    As an independent, conservative voter, I lean toward the Republican Party, but I don't trust their willingness to actually reduce spending. They shout it from the roof tops, with President Obama in the White House, but a Republican President led this country into two wars in the Middle East. The cost of these wars is a tremendous waste of human and monetary treasure. Both parties spend like drunken sailors.

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    Re: Pat Buchanan: Is a U.S. Default Inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    "Baloney," said Donald Rumsfeld. The likely cost would be $60 billion, said Mitch Daniels of the Office of Management and Budget.

    We can finance the war with Iraqi oil, said Paul Wolfowitz.
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    Iraq awards contracts to Iran and China BAGHDAD:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/world ... .html?_r=1

    Iraq has agreed to award $1.1 billion in contracts to Iranian and Chinese companies to build a pair of enormous power plants, the Iraqi electricity minister said Tuesday. Word of the project prompted serious concerns among American military officials, who fear that We invade it, they essentially quit producing, and our gasoline at the pumps cost more than any other time in history.

    Not only that, but the COMMUNIST CHINESE and India were the first to cash in on any new Iraqi oil productions.

    What's wrong with that picture?

    Iraq awards billion dollar power plant construction contracts to Iran and China.

    Iranian commercial investments can mask military activities at a time of heightened tension with Iran. The Iraqi electricity minister, Karim Wahid, said that the Iranian project would be built in Sadr City, a Shiite enclave in Baghdad that is controlled by followers of the anti-American cleric Moktada al-Sadr. He added that Iran had also agreed to provide cheap electricity from ...


    And Iraq's big oil contracts go to ...
    http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/05/news/in ... /index.htm

    And Iraq's big oil contracts go to ... Companies from China, India and other Asian nations are seen getting the first contracts. But don't write off Big Oil just yet. NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Despite claims by some critics that the Bush administration invaded Iraq to take control of its oil, the first contracts with major oil firms from Iraq's new government are likely to go not to U.S. companies, but rather to companies from China, India, Vietnam, and Indonesia.While Iraqi lawmakers struggle to pass an agreement on exactly who will award the contracts and how the revenue will be shared, experts say a draft version that passed the cabinet earlier this year will likely uphold agreements ...

    Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mO4UCYy ... r_embedded

    Cheney in 1994 on Iraq
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5 ... r_embedded

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