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    Exclamation Overturning Roe vs Wade and tyranny

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    Is it not an irrefutable fact that a majority on our Supreme Court, in its Roe and Casey opinions, decided to exercise legislative, judiciary and executive powers, which in effect subtlety subverted our constitution’s mandated system of separation of powers, and replaced it with one which Madison, in Federalist No. 47 observes as tyranny?

    "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”

    Indeed! And now that there is talk of Roe vs Wade being overturned and a majority on the Court daring to relinquish the Court’s tyrannical exercise of legislative and executive powers over a subject matter specifically left to the States and people therein under the Tenth Amendment, those who embrace the tyranny of a concentration of power in the hands of a few are exhibiting how notoriously evil they are!

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    Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And that is why the Democrat Party Leadership detests federalism . . . it is an obstacle to controlling and subjugating the people completely.

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    In case anyone has missed it, the question concerning the Roe vs Wade decision is about its legitimacy. Where in the Constitution have the states and people therein delegated a power to the federal government to enter the states and meddle in those matters which "… concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State?

    Should we not demand the enforcement our Constitution's big tent system in which the people within each state, through their democratic process, determine their own destiny?

    Should we not demand the enforcement of the Tenth Amendment which declares the following? "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people".


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    What is the purpose of the Tenth Amendment and Bill of Rights as applied to abortion?

    The purpose of the Tenth Amendment, which was added to our constitution with nine other amendments, was specifically, and intentionally, to prevent misconstruction or abuse of the newly created government’s powers.


    And, these amendments, referred to as the “Bill of Rights”, are ten declaratory and restrictive clauses which are enforceable upon the federal government in its exercise of powers, not the State governments!


    How do I know this to be true? Because the Resolution of the First Congress Submitting Twelve Amendments to the Constitution; March 4, 1789 confirms this to be true!




    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added”.




    Additional evidence is James Madison, speaking with reference to the adoption of these specific amendments, and confirming their adoption is to preserve and protect “federalism”, our Constitution’s big-tent system which reserves to the States and people therein, all powers not delegated to Congress. He says:




    “It cannot be a secret to the gentlemen in this House, that, notwithstanding the ratification of this system of Government by eleven of the thirteen United States, in some cases unanimously, in others by large majorities; yet still there is a great number of our constituents who are dissatisfied with it; among whom are many respectable for their talents and patriotism, and respectable for the jealousy they have for their liberty, which, though mistaken in its object, is laudable in its motive. There is a great body of the people falling under this description, who at present feel much inclined to join their support to the cause of Federalism” ___See :Madison, June 8th, 1789, Amendments to the Constitution



    Now, getting back to the Tenth Amendment, the question arises as to what powers have been reserved to the States and people therein, and the answer to that question is found in Federalist Papers No. 45 which summarizes those powers as follows:



    “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.


    The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."



    Of course, there are specific exceptions and limitations to such powers, and they are enforceable upon the states by the federal government. One such exception is the Fourteenth Amendment which prohibits State laws which make distinctions based upon race, color or previous condition of slavery, and is part of the intended purpose for adding this amendment to our constitution.



    Finally, and in reference to the regulation of abortion, if any, that is within the powers reserved to the States and people therein under the Tenth Amendment.


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    Those who reject abiding by the text of our Constitution, and the intentions and beliefs under which it was agree to, as documented from historical records ___ its framing and ratification debates which give context to its text ___ wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.

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    Our fanatical abortion crowd is helping to destroy America from within.

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    It is absolutely shameful how destructive the abortion issue, being improperly thrust upon the Congress of the United States and our federal government, has been.

    It seems that our fanatical abortion crowd, whether pro or con, refuses to understand that our federal government has constitutionally assigned priorities which are far more important to the general welfare of the United States then abortion, or for that matter, if Mary and Sue can get married, both of which are among the powers retained by the States and people therein under the Tenth Amendment.

    Look how our country is being destroyed from within ___ we are being invaded by millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal populations of other countries; deadly drugs are flooding across our border and killing our children and young adults; our currency is being inflated to a degree that its purchasing power has drastically diminished in the past year; prices are increasing to unbearable levels for America’s families; and, the shutting down, by needless regulations, our country's ability to produce cheap fuel and be energy independent are just a few of the threats to our nation's general welfare.

    But hey, let all that take a back seat and let us threaten members of Congress and Supreme Court Justices if they dare to get the abortion monkey off their backs and start dealing with those specific matters entrusted to our federal government by our Constitution.

    This fanatical abortion crowd, whether pro or con, needs to fess up and come to grips with how their personal feelings about abortion, and their refusal to follow our constitution and federalism, is helping to destroy our country from within.

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    Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And that is why control freaks detest federalism . . . it is an obstacle to controlling and subjugating the people completely.

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    The Majority in Roe vs Wade engaged in the very definition of tyranny

    Alito's DRAFT OPINION confirms the Majority in Roe engaged in the very definition of tyranny as stated by Madison, i.e, exercising executive, judicial and legislative powers.

    "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47


    Here is what Alito wrote in the draft opinion about Roe:

    “Even though the Constitution makes no mention of abortion, the Court held that it confers a broad right to obtain one. It did not claim that American law or the common law had ever recognized such a right, and its survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant (e.g., its discussion of abortion in antiquity) to the plainly incorrect (e.g., its assertion that abortion was probably never a crime under the common law). After cataloguing a wealth of other information having no bearing on the meaning of the Constitution, the opinion concluded with a numbered set of rules much like those that might be found in a statute enacted by a legislature.

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    Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And that is why control freaks detest federalism . . . it is an obstacle to controlling and subjugating the people completely.

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    Is it not time to end fifty years of torture inspired by the Roe vs Wade Court?

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    It is absolutely frightening how the issue of abortion, which is obviously one of the most emotionally charged issues imaginable, and one which is within the powers reserved to the States and people therein as documented in Federalist No. 45, has encroached upon our federal government to such a degree that not only have members of Congress been threatened over the issue, but now Supreme Court Justices have been threated, and even by a member of our Senate!
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    Our country has been tortured at the federal head by the Roe vs Wade Court for almost fifty years. And it’s time for our Supreme Court to do its job, abide by its oath of office to support and defend our Constitution and end this ongoing torture at the federal head and embrace the wisdom of our Constitution’s mandated federalism, a big-tent system, and have each State and the people therein, set their own hometown rules as our Constitution commands under the Tenth Amendment.

    JWK

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.

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