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    They are at it again, spreading fear and hysteria and promoting lockdowns as a cure

    See: CDC chief issues stark warning on possible second wave and more lockdowns as global cases top 5 million

    5/21/20

    ”As the world reached 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases Thursday, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said he can’t guarantee whether a second round of lockdowns is coming as a possible second wave of the virus looms.”

    So, instead of offering a common sense and logical approach to a possible second wave ___ protecting those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus, namely the elderly, and more specifically those with underlying medical conditions, which account for the vast majority of deaths due to the virus, and allowing the rest of our population to go about its business ___ the evil doers at the CDC promote a remedy which knowingly will cause more harm to the American people and its vital economic base.

    Is it not obvious by now we have a Fifth Column movement in the United States whose mission is to weaken and destroy America’s economic base, and make its population totally dependent upon government for its economic needs?

    JWK

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    An example Our Fifth Column’s propaganda:


    Here are some highlights to know Thursday:



    • ”If social distancing in the U.S. had started two weeks before the time most people began staying at home, it could have prevented a stunning 54,000 deaths and 960,000 cases, researchers have found.”

    The above ought to have read:



    • If those most susceptible to the deadly effects of the virus were immediately isolated from the rest of our nation’s population and treated if contaminated with the virus, as the epidemiological findings suggested and was known almost from the begining, it could have prevented untold deaths in the United States while keeping America’s economy intact.


    JWK


    Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

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    SEE:
    ‘The Data Is In — Stop The Panic And End The Total Isolation’: Fmr. Stanford Chief Of Neuroradiology Discusses Viral Column


    Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from COVID-19.

    Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding.

    Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.

    Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.

    Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures.

    JWK

    Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

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    Con artist Fauci tries another rope-a-dope approach

    Fauci cleverly has changed his tune.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci says staying closed for too long could cause 'irreparable damage'

    "I don't want people to think that any of us feel that staying locked down for a prolonged period of time is the way to go," he tells CNBC.
    www.cnbc.com




    Now that a large segment of our nation's population has figured out Fauci's approach was irrational and caused more harm than good, he is trying to con us again by cleverly embracing what was known from the beginning.

    There is something very suspicious about Fauci’s original advice, and even more suspicious when we consider our Fifth Column Media embraced Fauci’s illogical approach, and the fear and hysteria he created when subtilty attacking by innuendo anyone who dared to question his irrational advice.

    If the object was to limit the death rate from the virus, and it was known almost from the beginning that the vast majority of deaths due to COVID-19 were among the elderly, and more specifically, those with underlying medical conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, chronic lung disease, etc., the obvious course of action was to focus on and protect the susceptible group while allowing the rest of our nation’s population to go about its business. Instead, Fauci constantly focused on the increase in the number of reported cases instead of the death rate being among an identifiable group which ought to have been the focus, and how to protect them.

    And now he is trying to con us again, even after the devastating destruction he has caused by offering a totally irrational and suicidal approach to deal with the virus.

    JWK

    Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to undermine and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

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    Dr. Birx now admits what thinking people knew almost from the beginning, but ignored when recommending a shelter in place and shutdown of American’s economy.


    See:
    Places of worship ‘may not be safe’ for some, Birx says


    05/24/2020


    ”Places of worship “may not be safe for those with preexisting conditions” despite orders from President Donald Trump that they be allowed to reopen immediately, White House coronavirus coordinator Deborah Birx said Sunday.”


    “Although it may be safe for some to go to churches and social distance, it may not be safe for those with preexisting conditions,” Birx told Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday.” “That’s why in ‘phase one’ and ‘phase two,’ we’ve asked for those individuals with vulnerabilities to really ensure that they are protected and sheltering in place while we open up America.”


    Well, isn’t this peachy? Now that thinking Americans across the country have figured out those most susceptible to the deadly effect of the virus is limited to an identifiable segment of the population and are protesting the suicidal approach first recommended by Dr. Birx and her sidekick Fauci, Birx now tells us that those individuals with vulnerabilities should be protected and should be the group that shelters “in place while we open up America."


    The problem is, the advice these two have given us has already led to unnecessary and untold deaths in the United States, and irreparable damage to our economy. But, instead of admitting they offered an irrational and suicidal approach to deal with the virus at the beginning, they now pretend nothing has happened on their behalf and continue to project themselves as our saviors.

    These two monsters need to hide their faces in shame and ask for forgiveness for the suicidal path they recommended from the beginning.

    JWK


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    If the "masks" work...why aren't they giving them to the prisoners instead of letting them out of jails to commit crimes against us?

    Churches are not safe for legal U.S. citizens, the police are going in and people are being arrested...but it is OK for a Church to harbor, aid, and abet illegal aliens for "sanctuary" and not allow ICE in to arrest THEM for disobeying our laws.

    What a load of BS.
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    In mid-March we were led to believe that the death rate from COVID-19 would reach 2.2 million. See:
    COVID-19 predicted to infect 81% of U.S. population, cause 2.2 million deaths in U.S.

    The fear and hysteria caused by this projection led to an illogical and irrational lockdown of the United States economy, which in itself created countless and untold deaths and destruction in addition to the virus itself.

    And now we find out
    The CDC's New 'Best Estimate' Implies a COVID-19 Infection Fatality Rate Below 0.3%

    "That rate is much lower than the numbers used in the horrifying projections that shaped the government response to the epidemic."


    What is astounding to know is in 1918, “Generally speaking, the fatality rate for the Spanish flu is calculated at about 2%”
    LINK far worse than today’s COVID-19 which is below 0.3%


    So why are our Blue State Communist/Socialist leaders so bent on not fully opening their state economies? Seems to me they are causing more incidental deaths [suicides, drug overdoses, missed medical procedures and cancer mammograms, etc.], which are in addition to deaths caused by COVID-19. Why do these communist/socialist leaders continue to create fear and hysteria in their states?

    JWK

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    Covid-19 is being used as a tool to slow illegal immigration to a "trickle" and stop foreign citizens crossing our border illegally. Which PROVES we CAN stop this illegal immigration and invasion of our country and we do NOT need a "virus" to do it.

    Permanently end illegal immigration.

    Process them in the field within one hour, and turn them all right back around, including their UACs. Asylum is a lie, a sham, and has been grossly abused. This program needs to be shut down and defunded permanently. No more showing up on our border unvetted, with no medical exam, and no PRIOR authorization to do so.

    These illegal aliens bring MORE infectious diseases than Covid-19 and this has been going on for decades.

    The CDC needs to make Title 42 permanent.

    We have millions of foreign citizens from all over the world pouring over our border, illegally, with TB, AIDS, Ebola, HIV, STD's, measles, chicken pox, respiratory disease, polio, scabies, lice, hepatitis, and a host of infectious diseases. They also have a host of medical conditions, are in poor health, and U.S. taxpayers should not be footing the bill for their medical care or pregnancies!

    End birthright citizenship now! Get it to the Supreme Court.
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    Remember when we were told that lockdowns were the only way to limit the death rate?


    Well, the fact is, New York had a lockdown and look at its Nursing Home deaths!

    SEE:
    Blame governors for the coronavirus deaths in nursing homes: Goodwin


    May 16, 2020


    "The Times found 14 states where more than half of total deaths occurred in facilities for the elderly. It was 55 percent in Connecticut, 57 percent in Colorado, North Carolina and Kentucky, 58 percent in Virginia, 59 percent in Massachusetts, 61 percent in Delaware, 66 percent in Pennsylvania, 73 percent in Rhode Island and 80 percent in West Virginia and Minnesota."


    "The states with the most nursing-home deaths, New York and New Jersey, didn’t make the list because of so many other deaths, yet more than 10,000 people died in their facilities. The 5,500 nursing-home deaths in New York are more than the total deaths in all other states except New Jersey."

    Unfortunately, our big media is constantly causing fear and hysteria and has become part of the problem!


    JWK


    Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to paralyze and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

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