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    End-of-life counseling fuels furor on radio

    End-of-life counseling fuels furor on radio

    Element is tiny part of health reform bill

    By Ceci Connolly

    THE WASHINGTON POST
    2:00 a.m. August 2, 2009

    WASHINGTON – A campaign on conservative talk radio – fueled unintentionally by President Barack Obama's calls to control exorbitant medical bills – has sparked fear among senior citizens that the massive health-reform bill moving through Congress will lead to end-of-life “rationingâ€
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    Why do some many people on the radio, and the internet,

    always take everything and try to turn it into something that it's not ?
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    (quote“I don't think it's about cutting costs; it's about quality,â€
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    I read the bill this morning, it does promote end of life counseling, which should involve family only.

    Imagine if they get control of healthcare it includes access to your bank account to withdraw the funds for your health insurance. Whatever the increase, these funds are withdrawn first. It doesn't matter if your mortgage or utilities are paid, the Government gets theirs first.

    It's all about control..your health (and death) finances and later your diet and lifestyle.
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    You have a right to spend every last dollar of YOUR money to delay death for a short period of time.

    You do not have a right to spend every last dollar of THE TAXPAYERS MONEY to extend your life for a short period of time.

    I've already told my family that when I have a major medical problem that they are to go away and let it be over.

    I don't want to be a medical experiment than drags death out for months or years.

    When it's time to go, just go.
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    quote(You do not have a right to spend every last dollar of THE TAXPAYERS MONEY to extend your life for a short period of time.)quote

    Correct, however I have no right to pay for abortions, schools for illegals, however I do via property tax,the idea that we can shorten peoples lives via rationed health care to pay for those who never paid into the system is simply wrong.

    While we hear constantly that SS and Medicare is in trouble we continue to have an open door policy for the world's poor while we continue to loss manufacturing jobs and outsource, we are building the perfect 3th world society right before our eyes, wake up America this is not the road for us to travel.
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    Imagine if they get control of healthcare it includes access to your bank account to withdraw the funds for your health insurance. Whatever the increase, these funds are withdrawn first. It doesn't matter if your mortgage or utilities are paid, the Government gets theirs first.
    We already have mandatory car insurance and they don't do any of those things with that.
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    Americans get down on your hands and knee's and Pray!

    If this health care system was about money then the government would stop paying for illegals and anchors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    Imagine if they get control of healthcare it includes access to your bank account to withdraw the funds for your health insurance. Whatever the increase, these funds are withdrawn first. It doesn't matter if your mortgage or utilities are paid, the Government gets theirs first.
    We already have mandatory car insurance and they don't do any of those things with that.





    Not yet they don't JD2.......but are you willing to bet that it's not coming somewhere down the line?

    Can you say, with any degree of absolute certainty, that it won't?

    And why?

    Think about this. When one finances a vehicle, the contract specifically spells out that one must carry insurance on that vehicle. If you don't and the finance company finds out about it.....and they do....they will take that car back.

    The government now owns what? The auto industry and the banking industry. They are now making an unmitigated grab for the insurance industry.

    Buy a new car and who is the lienholder? The government. Do you think they will want to ensure that their vehicles are insured? Of course.....although it will have little to do with insuring the tin cans they are selling.

    Further, how many people require healthcare each year as the direct result of car accidents? That care costs $$$$, doesn't it? If they are going to require payment for mandatory healthcare come out of personal accounts, it isn't much of a leap to see where, in the not too distant future, that mandatory car insurance will be the next thing being withdrawn from one's personal accounts.
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    Read the bill...it's in there. http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/show
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