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    NAACP Leader: I Disapprove Of Pulling Down Confederate Statues

    NAACP Leader: I Disapprove Of Pulling Down Confederate Statues

    "You can't eliminate what history is. So I disapprove with young people pulling down those statues."

    AUGUST 16, 2017 By The Federalist Staff

    A top NAACP leader on Tuesday publicly spoke out against the move to tear down memorials to Confederate soldiers in the wake of racial violence in Charlottesville, saying that destroying a statue won’t change our nation’s history. Esther M. Lee, the president of the Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, chapter of the NAACP, told a local news station that violence around the issue was simply not worth it.
    “You know that’s history. That was in that point in time,” Lee said, according to WFMZ. “You can’t eliminate what history is. So I disapprove with young people pulling down those statues.”


    “A young woman died. Two officers were murdered in a plane crash and all for what?” Lee asked. “Because somebody in their mind decided, ‘We don’t need to look at that anymore.'”

    Heather Heyer, a 32-year-old woman who was protesting the assembly of white nationalists, was struck and killed by a car that plowed into a crowd at high speed. Eyewitnesses have described the act as intentional, and a suspect, James A. Fields, was arrested by police shortly after the attack.Two Virginia state troopers died in a helicopter crash while responding to the scene.

    Following the events in Charlottesville, protestors have toppled a monument memorializing Confederate soldiers in Durham, North Carolina. In Washington, D.C., protesters demanded that a statue memorializing Albert Pike, a Confederate general, also be torn down.

    During a press conference at Trump Tower in New York on Wednesday, President Trump criticized the urge to topple Confederate monuments. He pointed out that several of our past presidents, namely George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, owned slaves, and asked where the desire to destroy would end.

    “You know, you do really have to ask yourself, where does it stop?” Trump asked.

    His comments sent news outlets and several prominent Republicans into a panic.

    Lee, no apologist for Trump, said she wished everyone would join her in praying for the president.

    “I would pray that he would gain the strength to do what’s necessary in the job, at least for these four years,” she said.

    A memorial service for Heather Heyer, the woman murdered in Charlottesville, was held on Wednesday afternoon.

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    Reason will prevail in this country. We are not a third world nation that erases its past. And why would we want to? Over 2 million Americans volunteered to join the Union Army to free the slaves in the south and end the abomination of slavery in the United States. They fought the bloodiest war with the largest number of American casualties ever fought by Americans. The United States is the only country in the history of world to fight a civil war to end slavery. This is not something to hide or erase. This is something to honor and appreciate.

    My great grandfather was one of those volunteers, he was 18 and rode on the front lines because he was played the bugle. He had never met a black person, didn't know a slave, had never seen a slave operation, he just knew slavery was wrong and needed to end in our country. His grandfather and my great-grandfather x 5 fought in the Revolutionary War to create this country. Everyone involved in building our nation knew slavery was wrong, what they didn't know or couldn't figure out was how to end it without another war. Sadly, this slavery issue proved to be an issue for which there was no option but the military option.

    It is a disgrace to want to hide or erase either side of this issue or the war that settled it because by erasing the side that was wrong you diminish the side that was right as well as the 2 million Union Army volunteers who risked their lives in a horrible, bloody war to correct this terrible wrong in our country and free 4 million people in the South from the bondage of slavery, people they never knew and would never know them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Reason will prevail in this country. We are not a third world nation that erases its past. And why would we want to?
    I agree. There's no reason we should ever hide our past. It's who we are today. Actually, we may end up making things worse by doing this. And how would we learn from our past mistakes if we don't what they are? Including all the details and history of it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man View Post
    I agree. There's no reason we should ever hide our past. It's who we are today. Actually, we may end up making things worse by doing this. And how would we learn from our past mistakes if we don't what they are? Including all the details and history of it all.
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    My great grandfather was one of those volunteers, he was 18 and rode on the front lines because he was played the bugle. He had never met a black person, didn't know a slave, had never seen a slave operation, he just knew slavery was wrong and needed to end in our country. His grandfather and my great-grandfather x 5 fought in the Revolutionary War to create this country.
    I had several relatives, including two great-great-grandfather's that fought in the Civil War too. Just so happens all of my relatives fought for the C.S.A. Guess what, none of them, not a single one, ever owned a slave. They were all basically poor dirt farmers, not plantation owners, slave traders, etc. One also did work as a tax collector and another as town sheriff. One great-great uncle and one of my great-great-grandfather's died fighting for states rights and against an invasion from the North, not slavery. These are words shared to me by my great-grandfather (I was a teenager). The part about their professions, military service, and non-slave ownership is a part of historical record.

    It is a huge misnomer to label everyone that fought for or supported the C.S.A as slavery supporters or slave owners. I'm proud of my heritage and won't apologize for my ancestors simply because they were caught up in a war that had different meanings to different folks during those times. This is why folks need to realize that the confederate flag and confederate statues represent different things to different people. It's certainly not about hate or the oppression of a certain race for many.

    Not that it's relative to the conversation, but I too had ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War.

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    Only 6% of the population of the Confederacy owned a slave, only 30% of the families of the Confederacy owned a slave.
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    It is just silly to suppose all those poor barefoot ridgerunners fought so the rich people could keep their slaves. It's just silly.

    I would ask to ask a question of all those who think taking down the statues is going to make their lives great.

    I would like to ask them how has their lives gotten better since they pulled down all the Confederate flags. Do they have more jobs, more education, more healthcare, more housing, etc.

    Just what good did it do anyone - except create resentment - which of course, was the true goal.

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