5. Retention of Video Records Missoula County will avoid creating unnecessary video records, retaining records not needed for the fulfillment of the mission of Missoula County, and engaging in practices that could place personally identifiable information on public view. Recorded digital video images will be stored on hardware in a secure area of Missoula County. Recordings will be retained for no more than 60 days in accordance with Missoula County’s records retention schedule, unless required as part of an ongoing investigation or litigation.
Additional interviews were conducted with Quentin Rhoades, Lyn Hellegaard and Lisa Melina Pyron.
-From my understanding – and feel free to correct me if I’m wrong – each of these affirmation envelopes has a barcode that is tied into the MT Secretary of State’s voter database, which is then scanned and a report is printed that those ballots are physically present, which are then confirmed by hand. I guess I’m struggling to understand how 4,592 ballots that were scanned into the system are not physically present.
My response:
In talking to the people involved, the Missoula County Election officials set up the process for the count, they supervised the count, and it is my understanding that those doing the count did exactly as they were told by the election officials. Counting these envelopes is not a difficult process. The only comment made to those doing the count during the process was that they were told that they may have gotten too high of a count, a higher count of envelopes than there were envelopes, nothing in the opposite direction was mentioned.
On top of that is the lack of the video recordings of the initial opening of ballots and recount. Once the FOIA request was lodged all information that could be relevant to litigation should have been maintained, and Brad Seaman was alerted to this in two letters prior to the election. In addition, even though it wasn’t necessary, an email explicitly noting all video evidence was sent on December 22, 2020. That is well within the 60 day window noted in the Missoula County Policy Book.
the Missoula County Policy Book.
Missoula County Policy Book –V2017.024 p. 24 https://www.missoulacounty.us/home/s...ument?id=317955.
Retention of Video Records Missoula County will avoid creating unnecessary video records, retaining records not needed for the fulfillment of the mission of Missoula County, and engaging in practices that could place personally identifiable information on public view. Recorded digital video images will be stored on hardware in a secure area of Missoula County. Recordings will be retained for no more than 60 days in accordance with Missoula County’s records retention schedule, unless required as part of an ongoing investigation or litigation.
Now I know that the county is claiming that they are relying on the supposed 30 day rule for the state (which I haven’t seen yet), but that is completely irrelevant because they are required then to keep it for whatever rule is the longest. Even it the state says at least 30 days, the county must follow its own rules which say at least 60 days.
This lost of crucial evidence to monitor what happened in the election day count is very concerning. The County is saying trust us that they did everything right, but the evidence that they were required to keep to show that they in fact did it right has been lost despite multiple notifications that they needed to keep that evidence.
Whether the 7% gap is due to incompetence or ballot stuffing, both are serious concerns. You can’t have that large of errors in voting and say that there is no problem with the system. If it is due to incompetence by the county election officials, that level of error is just much too big. It is bigger than the vote difference in county elections and given that Missoula is the second largest county in the state it can impact statewide races.
More notes here.
Notes on Seaman’s claim in his response to Lott regarding photos of envelopes: “They were permitted to take photocopies of the affirmation envelopes. Based on precedent set by the Secretary of State’s voter database, which omits signatures, we agreed not to include the signature block in any photocopies. They opted not to make any copies.” But Rhoades’ October 30th letter informing Seaman of their desire to do an audit after the election requested “access to all signed ballot envelops for Missoula County for inspection, counting, and photographing.” In addition, RCI reviewed a copy of the audit agreement that Seaman required Rhoades agree to. It clearly states: “Reviewers will be able to inspect all areas of the envelope, but may not take video, photos, or photocopies of any of the signature portions of an envelope.” One of the auditors, Lyn Hellegaard, requested permission to take pictures during the recount and she says that the Missoula County Elections staff and Seaman told her, “you can’t take pictures of this.” Lisa Melina Pyron was also at the same table counting envelopes as Hellegaard, and she confirms the conversation.
After talking to reporters, it is clear that Bradley Seaman is saying that the people who did the count didn’t have the proper training and that they made mistakes. There are several points to be made here.
— This is pretty simple counting procedure. Most would simply put down a hashtag mark for each envelope that they counted. It wasn’t a question of people losing track of their count when they would get to a high number of envelopes.
— The staff from the County Election Office were there and monitored what was occurring. Seaman was there the whole time. He watched the entire process. He had no suggestions or comments that there was something being done wrong.
— On January 4th after the count was completed, Bradley Seaman announced to the people who had done the recount: “we are looking for election officials, and I hope that you apply.”
— They followed the procedures that were laid out. They set up tables. The counters followed their lead. If there were mistakes because of the methods being used, it was methods that they suggested.
UPDATE 2: The Missoula Current has
a letter from the Missoula County Board of Commissioners, April 1, 2021. The response to this piece will soon also be published there.
https://crimeresearch.org/2021/03/at...ud-in-montana/