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    ARIZONA - All four homes in raid tied to Guerena family

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    By Fernanda Echavarri Arizona Daily Star

    All four homes in raid tied to Guerena family



    Records released by the Pima County Sheriff's Department this week show that the four houses served with search warrants the morning of May 5 - when Jose Guerena was shot and killed by a SWAT team - are less than four miles apart and are all connected to the Guerena family.

    And while initial reports were that doctors told the Guerena family that Jose had been shot 60 times, the Pima County medical examiner's preliminary report says he was shot 22 times. In its sole briefing on the incident, the Sheriff's Department said SWAT team members fired 71 rounds.

    Aside from releasing more than 500 pages of documents about the incident, the department has remained mum since the May 10 briefing.

    The raid netted drugs, large amounts of cash, bulletproof vests, about 30 cellphones and a stolen vehicle, records show, but no arrests have been made.

    A department spokesman reiterated Friday that no comment on the case would be made until the investigation is complete.

    Jose Guerena, 26, his older brother, Alejandro Guerena, and Jose Celaya - a relative by marriage - were listed as suspects in an investigation of drug trafficking and home invasions, records show. Warrants were served at homes owned by Jose Guerena; Bertha Guerena, Jose's mother; and two homes owned by Jose and Graciela Celaya.

    During a briefing before the warrants were served, records show, detectives told SWAT team members the two Guerena brothers and Celaya were associated with a double homicide related to a home invasion.

    On March 29, 2010, Alejandro Guerena's sister-in-law was shot to death during a home invasion. Cynthia Orozco, 34, and her husband, Manuel Francisco Orozco, 36, were killed at their rented home in the 7800 block of West Spiney Lizard Place, Star archives show. That house is down the street from one of the homes searched in the May 5 raid, records show. Cynthia Orozco was the sister of Alejandro Guerena's wife, Pauline. No arrests have been made in those slayings.

    evidence taken from 4 homes

    Records show investigators took evidence from each of the four homes on the day of the raid:

    • 9:33 a.m., Jose Guerena's house, 7100 block of South Redwater Drive. SWAT team members announce themselves, then knocked open the front door. Shots are fired and Jose is killed. His wife, Vanessa, and their 4-year-old son were not shot.

    No drugs or large amounts of cash were found inside Jose Guerena's home, but detectives seized a Colt .38-caliber handgun, paperwork, tax returns including one with Jose and Graciela Celaya's name, insurance papers, bank statements and a bank card, reports show. Another report said detectives found body armor in a hallway closet and a U.S. Border Patrol hat in the garage.

    • 9:33 a.m., Jose and Graciela Celaya's house, 6200 block of West Oklahoma Street. Most of the cash and drugs that detectives seized were found here, where Alejandro Guerena's wife, Pauline, and child were found, along with Graciela Celaya, two unidentified women and another child.

    Pauline Guerena let detectives inside the home, where they found a large shoebox under a bed containing about $94,000, a bag of marijuana in the stove, ammunition, an AK-47 rifle, other guns and bulletproof vests. Seven vehicles were found at the residence and drug-sniffing dogs alerted officers to the smell of narcotics on most of the vehicles.

    While investigators were searching the home, Alejandro Guerena arrived, records show. He was detained but not arrested.

    • 12:57 p.m., Bertha Guerena's house, 5500 block of South Lemon Tree Drive. No one home. An officer wrote in his report that the front door of this house was "incredibly hardened" so SWAT officers had to break a glass door in the back to enter. He described the house as a "storage house" for furniture with no signs of occupancy. Dressers, couches and other furniture were wrapped in green plastic, according to records.

    There were no drugs, cash or guns found in this house, according to reports, but an identification card for Pauline Celaya was found inside.

    The listed owner for this property is Bertha Guerena.

    • 1 p.m., Jose and Graciela Celaya's house, 7400 block of West Illinois Street. No one at home. Before the raid, surveillance officers saw two people carrying two suitcases, a black bag and a large-screen TV next door. Officers found a stolen vehicle, according to the records, and several two-way radios, chargers and a cellphone in a dump truck on the property.

    Also in the dump truck, an officer detected the "distinct odor of decaying flesh," according to his report. He called a second officer to the area and they both agreed the smell was that of decaying flesh and was coming from the carpet in the trash, the report says. No body parts were found.

    Three weeks before the raids, deputies were called to this address by a landscaper saying there were men with guns on the property. When deputies arrived, they found the doors to the home open and a puddle of blood on the floor, records show. Deputies did not find anyone inside, but they found traces of marijuana and a holster next to bloody footprints leading out of the home.

    The registered owners of the house are Jose Celaya and Graciela Celaya.

    No criminal record

    Jose Guerena, a U.S. Marine for six years, did not have a criminal record in Pima County and his wife said he worked the graveyard shift for Asarco.

    Alejandro Guerena, 27, had contact with local law enforcement about a dozen times and was found guilty of misconduct involving weapons in 2009 and possession, manufacture, delivery and advertisement of drug paraphernalia in 2006 and 2005, records show. He served some time in jail, but records are unclear as to when and for how long.

    Jose Celaya was arrested by the Drug Enforcement Administration a couple of years ago, but the circumstances are unknown. Without his date of birth or middle name, the Star has been unable to check for other criminal records.

    Examiner: 22 wounds

    It was initially reported that Jose Guerena was shot 60 times by five SWAT officers who fired 71 rounds in less than 10 seconds. The family was told by a doctor that Jose was shot 60 times, they told the Star. Preliminary reports from the Pima County Medical Examiner's Office state that Guerena died from 22 gunshot wounds, Dr. Gregory Hess said Friday.

    Contact reporter Fernanda Echavarri at fechavarri@azstarnet.com or 572-4224.


    Source: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/a ... 9fd6b.html
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    FROM A DRUG RAID IN MEXICO, APRIL, 2010


    http://www.mainetv.net/drugs.htm

    Their money can buy the best politicians, the best cops, the best judges, whatever they need they just throw down stacks of cash and it is theirs!
    http://www.mainetv.net/drugs.htm

    Photos of a Mexican Drug Lord's home after being raided.

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    Photos of a Mexican Drug Lord's home after being raided.

    This beats anything this poor old boy has ever seen.

    Ever wonder why so many members of the US Congress and US Police and Courts seem more interested in the rights of illegal aliens and other miscreants than they are you and I the plain Joe the Plumbers of the US?

    Well maybe, just maybe these pictures will start to shed some light on that.



    Yes, That is cash piled on that table in the background!



    Just a small collection of guns - these people are not really dangerous at all...



    Yes, that is real gold on these guns!



    Gold and Titanium 45 Caliber semi automatic pistols - they found 16 like this.



    Go and kill in the name of the Lord my son! There was a matched pair of these found.



    357 Magnum semi automatic with solid gold grips.



    This pile of cash before it was counted was estimated to be approimately 18 Million Dollars!
    After it was counted it turned out to be a little more than 22 million Dollars!



    From another angle.



    Guns were hidden all over the house along with ample Ammo just in case of trouble.



    Each of these stacks of 100's holds $250,000 (a quarter of a million dollars)!

    2:23PM 4/27/2010 note There are three more pictures we are waiting to put up. Check back around 6PM today.


    More Gold machine guns and pistols - most were never fired, just held for collection value.

    The money and valuables found in this one house alone, would be enough to pay for health insurance for every man woman and child in the U.S.A. for 12 years!

    There are believed to be approximately 27 more of these houses in Mexico alone not to mention the ones in other countries who are enriching themselves in the drug trade.

    Their money can buy the best politicians, the best cops, the best judges, whatever they need they just throw down stacks of cash and it is theirs! Well maybe, just maybe these pictures will start to shed some light on that. Editors note: Remember, when Olympia Snowe entered the Congress she had a net worth of under 500 thousand, now it is over 24 million. We are not accusing Olympia Snowe of taking bribes, but, that's a lot of increase in 12 years in the senate and she has been a solid open borders advocate and one who has opposed closing the borders.

    But, we would be most interested in hearing her explain step by step her investment stategy for making that kind of money.
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    How much

    Their money can buy the best politicians, the best cops, the best judges, whatever they need they just throw down stacks of cash and it is theirs!


    How much ya wanna bet that the ACLU and SPLC got a nice size chunk of that cash? lmao
    Not to mention Harry Reid was also slipped a few dollars from that pile.

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    So far Jose Guerena's only crime seems to be that he had questionable inlaws. Border Patrol caps are available at most of the local conveinence stores, the body armour probably purchased by Jose himself when the Government couldn't supply it to troops several years back.
    Still much more needs to come out about this case. None of it excuses the sloppy unprofessional execution of the raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDreadlocke
    So far Jose Guerena's only crime seems to be that he had questionable inlaws. Border Patrol caps are available at most of the local conveinence stores, the body armour probably purchased by Jose himself when the Government couldn't supply it to troops several years back.
    Still much more needs to come out about this case. None of it excuses the sloppy unprofessional execution of the raid.
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    I AGREE with all of the above!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAPPY2BME
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDreadlocke
    So far Jose Guerena's only crime seems to be that he had questionable inlaws. Border Patrol caps are available at most of the local conveinence stores, the body armour probably purchased by Jose himself when the Government couldn't supply it to troops several years back.
    Still much more needs to come out about this case. None of it excuses the sloppy unprofessional execution of the raid.
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    I AGREE with all of the above!
    Ditto. Seems to be a lot of speculation and a lot of different versions of the story, depending on what article you read and who is telling the story.

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    This just came via twitter- http://fb.me/YG8A5LT9

    About 12 pages of transcripts. Read it for yourselves and see how it matches up with the video. IMHO SWAT team was given minimal info and bad intel. They were used.
    Still doesn't excuse the sloppy botched raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDreadlocke
    This just came via twitter- http://fb.me/YG8A5LT9

    About 12 pages of transcripts. Read it for yourselves and see how it matches up with the video. IMHO SWAT team was given minimal info and bad intel. They were used.
    Still doesn't excuse the sloppy botched raid.
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    Thanks for that. I have said elsewhere that this raid has many suspicious errors, the most obvious being the raid commenced immediately with full weapons assault, knowing there was at least one innocent (child) in harm's way.

    In THAT respect alone, this was no different than the Mexican cartels disregard for human life.

    The suspect was already being surveyed, and could have easily been arrested off premises, with a search warrant being used to confiscate any criminal evidence.

    The disregard for human life here is what troubles me most. We run the risk of becoming as evil as the criminals being arrested, or if those being arrested are innocent, even worse.

    WACO comes to mind.

    Having said all that, Mexican gangs must be dealt with on terms and language THEY understand. And this is happening all across the country.
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    Along with the nation-wide invasion of Mexican drug cartels comes the EROSION of our Constitutional Rights of protection from invasion.

    Also, the erosion of POSSE COMITATUS is glaringly obvious ..

    Ron Paul House Floor Speech: Republic Almost Completely Dead

    The Defense Authorization Act or H.R. 1540, aka The Forever War Act of 2012, was overwhelmingly approved by the House of Representatives earlier today on a vote of 322 to 96.

    The Senate will now vote on its own version and then the two bills will need to be reconciled before going to Barry Obama for his signature into law.

    The law authorizes the United States to use military force anywhere it says there are terrorists, including within the borders of our own country. It represents the largest hand-over of unchecked war authority from Congress to the executive branch in modern American history.

    The founders were seriously opposed to handing this much power over to executive, fearing tyranny. If enacted into law, this provision will make Obama a dictator who can wage war without the consent of the American people.

    http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-house- ... tely-dead/
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    they take those stocks rite off those AK's, nice an short. dont think that pile-o cash will do them much good now. i can use a little i know that.

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