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    3 Ways Bernie-Care Makes Canadian Healthcare Look Good | Free Shit Bernie

    3 Ways Bernie-Care Makes Canadian Healthcare Look Good



    "... some government healthcare systems are worse than others. And looking at some of the details of the Canadian system helps to illustrate how the proposed Bernie plan is one of the worst that's been proposed."

    Mon, 11/12/2018 - 19:00
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    Authored by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,

    Canadian healthcare has become something of a byword for the "ideal" in healthcare among certain activists in the United States.
    Bernie Sanders, for example, has relentlessly pressed for a Canada-style healthcare system, and many left-of-center Americans advocate for the same.



    Not surprisingly, though, few details of how the Canadian "single-payer" system works are ever discussed in the US. Advocates for single payer tend to assume that there is a simply one big national healthcare apparatus, and that everyone need only show up at a hospital or doctor's office to get everything free. This has never been the case with Canadian health care, but it's clear than many think it is.
    One need only look at the Bernie Sanders plan to see how monolithic and extensive their idea of government healthcare, based on the single-payer idea:
    Bernie’s plan would create a federally administered single-payer health care program. Universal single-payer health care means comprehensive coverage for all Americans. Bernie’s plan will cover the entire continuum of health care, from inpatient to outpatient care; preventive to emergency care; primary care to specialty care, including long-term and palliative care; vision, hearing and oral health care; mental health and substance abuse services; as well as prescription medications, medical equipment, supplies, diagnostics and treatments.
    This vision of federally-mandated health care goes much, much further than Canada's healthcare system. And if implemented, it would be a far larger financial burden to payers of federal taxes than is the case in Canada.
    I say this not to advocate for the Canadian system, but to highlight than some government healthcare systems are worse than others. And looking at some of the details of the Canadian system helps to illustrate how the proposed Bernie plan is one of the worst that's been proposed.
    There are three main ways that the Canadian plan isn't as bad as the Bernie plan: it's relatively decentralized, it has a limited scope of mandated coverage, and there is more room for a private sector than in many other countries with government healthcare systems.
    Interestingly, if one peruses the Canadian left's commentary on the country's healthcare system, the commentary is likely to regard all of these good points as bad things about Canada's healthcare system. They tell us that federal mandates ought to be extended. That the federal government ought to assert more control, and that there is too large a role for the private sector. From a laissez-faire perspective, of course, all of these "shortcomings" of the system actually make it relatively less bad.
    One: It's Decentralized

    As many observers of the Canadian healthcare plan have noted, Canada doesn't have one government healthcare system. It has 13: one for each territory and province. Since the beginning, the Canada Health Act, including its subsequent revised versions, places much of the control over healthcare coverage at the provincial level. In other words, the "details of how each system operates, including what is covered and how, is determined provincially."
    The federal mandate means that provinces must cover "medically necessary" hospital services and services performed by a doctor. This may sound pretty comprehensive, but what is "medically necessary" is usually defined at the provincial level. Moreover, what is defined as medically necessary can be — and has been — changed to lessen the number of procedures covered by the state. This, in effect, puts that procedure or product into the realm of the private sector.
    And there are some big holes in coverage in government healthcare in Canada that may surprise advocates for "socialized medicine" in America. In Canada, patients must rely primarily on private insurance for prescription medications, dental care, physiotherapy, ambulance services, prescription eyeglasses and other procedures deemed to experimental to too costly to be covered by government facilities. Moreover, long-term care is "practically invisible at the federal level," and, "the majority of mental health services do not meet the eligibility requirement of 'medically necessary.' Unless received in a hospital, psychological services must be paid for out-of-pocket or covered by private third-party insurance."
    All the territories and provinces have added coverage beyond the federal mandates, of course, but they remain free to undo these policies as well. After all, expanded coverage puts a burden on local budgets. And provincial governments have neither the ability to print money or — thanks to the realities of tax competition — raise taxes endlessly.
    Two: A Limited Scope of the Federal Act Allows for Ways to Control Costs

    Needless to say, the fact prescription drugs, mental health services, and long-term care are not covered by federal mandate would be considered scandalous by the authors of the Bernie Sanders plan. They demand that everything from an annual eye exam to a physical-therapy session be covered by US taxpayers right down to the last dime.

    The Canadian left has criticized their own system for this limited scope, too, with occasional calls for new reforms to expand federally-mandated coverage. But, so far, this has not happened.
    Part of the reason it hasn't happened is that provinces and the federal government are, in fact, limited by the realities of government budgets. While many Americans perceive government spending to be an utterly limitless and non-scarce resource, other countries such as Canada don't live in a world where new money can be endlessly created so long as the money remains the world's reserve currency. The Canadian dollar, of course, isn't the world's reserve currency and massive government deficits do present an actual problem for the Canadian state. Thus, medical procedures are sometimes declared not medically necessary, and prescription drugs — a potentially huge burden on government budgets — have never received received blanket coverage.
    This version of "universal" healthcare falls far short of what Bernie Sanders and his supporters imagine, but its also the reason that Canada is not on the brink of a sovereign debt crisis, or burdened by massive debt payments, as in the US and much of Western Europe.
    Three: There Is at Least Some Room for a Private Sector

    The limited nature of mandatory coverage allows for some breathing room for a private sector — in drugs, in mental health, and in whatever is not deemed medically necessary. In Canada, nearly one-third of healthcare transactions are financed by private sources, which is higher than most countries with "universal" health systems.
    Unfortunately, there are draconian limits on what the private sector can offer if the procedure is indeed listed as necessary. This means the private sector can't simply set up shop offering parallel hospitals or even basic diagnostic services. Part of the rationale for this has been political, because it is believed that the mere availability of parallel private medical services is "unfair." Another rationale is economic: policymakers fear all doctors would flock to the private sector, thus driving up the price of doctors for the "public" hospitals. As Canadian historian Ronald Hamowy notes, there has thus been opposition to allowing even small clinics performing diagnostic services like MRI scans. This, it was argued, would allow rich people to "jump the queue."
    It is not a surprise, of course, that the size and speed of "the queue" is an issue in a healthcare system where wait times for a wide variety of treatments can frequently total 20 weeks (or more). This is a direct result of the prohibition on parallel private services. Some people die waiting for their medically necessary services, which is why some governments, such as Australia, have attempted to increase access by allowing parallel private insurance. And its why some Canadians are now suggesting a two-tier system in healthcare.
    The prohibitions on market care, after all, are what makes a healthcare system "single payer." It means there can only be a single payer (the government) for certain services — primarily so that government policymakers can have total control over pricing.
    In this respect, though, the Canadian system is "single payer" only in cases of what is deemed "medically necessary." Everything else becomes a part of a multi-payer system, either public or private.
    Things would hardly improve though, if Canadian coverage wereto move in the direction of the Bernie Sanders plan. On the contrary, flexibility would be greatly diminished and consumers would have fewer choices. As the Sanders plan is far more extreme than the Canadian plan in terms of making itself a strictly single-payer system, nearly all medical services under the plan would be allowed only within the public sector, and private services in nearly every area of care would become either illegal or very rare.
    Naturally, the Bernie plan doesn't say this is the outcome of their plan. But it's a likely outcome.


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    Medicare kills people, and Democrats want to force everyone on it

    If Medicare punishes people for using too much care, is that really a good alternative to private insurance?


    December 22, 2018
    By Jack Hellner

    While Bernie Sanders and other Democrats go around the country scaring seniors and others about Republicans talking about controlling entitlement costs in the future, why aren't they confronted with the fact that President Obama and the Democrats cut Medicare funding twice during Obama's eight years?

    When Democrats passed Obamacare in 2010, they cut Medicare funding by over $700 billion to pretend to pay for Obamacare and say it would reduce the deficit. Cutting Medicare at that time had to reduce the long-term viability of the program.
    Then, in 2013, they cut Medicare spending again, and as a result, at least 30 long-term care facilities have closed. I wonder why this story isn't reported widely on networks and in print.
    Democrats also act as if Medicare has no limits (as they forced private health insurance to have no annual or lifetime limits), but as the article says below, Medicare cuts rates 60% to 70% in long-term care facilities if patients don't spend three days in a hospital before they go to the nursing homes.
    I had a personal experience with these Medicare restrictions last summer. I took my 91-year-old mother to the hospital in severe pain, as she had fallen. They shot her up with morphine and other drugs to reduce the pain. They took an X-ray, and it turned out she had a broken back. They told me they probably couldn't admit her because a broken back wasn't a good enough reason to stay, but the main reason was that Medicare didn't want to pay for part of the rehab.
    After nine days in the hospital, they sent her to a rehab facility. After around one month in rehab, Medicare said she was good enough to go home. Mom couldn't eat, couldn't bathe, was aspirating her food, couldn't walk, couldn't dress herself, couldn't medicate herself, couldn't go to the bathroom, and Medicare said she could go home. They were nuts. Ten days later, she died.
    No one should believe that government-run health care is the solution. I would always have a better chance dealing with private health insurance instead of the powerful, greedy government.
    Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, saying how wonderful it is for all Americans. If death rates went up after Obamacare passed, and if Medicare punishes people for using too much care, is that really a good alternative?
    The goal of Democrats on almost all things is government control. Results don't matter. It is truly a shame that most journalists just repeat Democrat talking points pushing their agenda while sometimes reporting the truth.


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