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good find there Serena

I'm telling you, this guy is dangerous for us.. he is no anti-illegal alien fighter..

Originally Posted by CSODeputy08

I'm telling you, this guy is dangerous for us.. he is no anti-illegal alien fighter..

Well, he sounded pretty forked-tongued to me! But why didn't the other guy fill out the NumbersUSA survey if he's really interested in being on-board with us on this issue?
Maybe he can be prevailed upon by people like you to reconsider his refusal!?

It's a shame a survey is the only thing that kept Chris Gorman from being endorsed over the other canidate. It would seem there would be other qualifiers besides a survey that would invoke a endorsement from ALIPAC for a canidate in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Serenanocturna

Originally Posted by CSODeputy08

I'm telling you, this guy is dangerous for us.. he is no anti-illegal alien fighter..

Well, he sounded pretty forked-tongued to me! But why didn't the other guy fill out the NumbersUSA survey if he's really interested in being on-board with us on this issue?
Maybe he can be prevailed upon by people like you to reconsider his refusal!?

How quickly we forget. It's been a coon's age since I visited this site but things have sure changed. Back a couple of years ago, we were slicing Liddy Dole up and throwing her to the wolves for NOT supporting the cause and now I see she has gotten your endorsement. Are people so oblivious that they can't recognize opportunism when it hits them in the face??? I voted AGAINST Dole and I voted AGAINST McCain. In fact, Ivoted against every incumbent except for my one Congressman who is a Republican.

McCain USED to be my man but, when he came out with his amnesty plan, he caused me great concern. BUT, when he named that IDIOT, Sarah Palin as his running mate, I ran the other way. Basically, I didn't vote FOR Obama---I voted AGAINST McCain and Palin.

Originally Posted by EagleEye

How quickly we forget. It's been a coon's age since I visited this site but things have sure changed. Back a couple of years ago, we were slicing Liddy Dole up and throwing her to the wolves for NOT supporting the cause and now I see she has gotten your endorsement. Are people so oblivious that they can't recognize opportunism when it hits them in the face??? I voted AGAINST Dole and I voted AGAINST McCain. In fact, Ivoted against every incumbent except for my one Congressman who is a Republican.

McCain USED to be my man but, when he came out with his amnesty plan, he caused me great concern. BUT, when he named that IDIOT, Sarah Palin as his running mate, I ran the other way. Basically, I didn't vote FOR Obama---I voted AGAINST McCain and Palin.

EagleEye,

Welcome back to ALIPAC. What is your source that ALIPAC ever jumped on Dole about immigration?

I do not recall this at all.

Dole has been great on our issue. She voted against the Cloture votes on the Amnesty bills and actively spoke out against the amnesty bills. She was instrumental in their defeat!

Also, Elizabeth Dole has worked hard in NC to get our local police into the 287(g) program and took a great deal of time to campaign for those programs on the ground here in NC. She also voted against the bailout like we wanted even though that is not one of the criteria we use for endorsments.

Elizabeth Dole has a Career and Recent grade of A at betterimmigration.com and has voted consistently with our movement.

She has addressed illegal immigration in her campaign and made it a center piece. Her first major political add this year was about cracking down on illegal immigration.

Dole's office was very helpful to us when I rushed to DC to try and stop amnesty and she took time out of her very busy schedule to meet with me directly for almost an hour. Her staff was exemplary in their assistance to us as well.

Dole's opponent, Kay Hagan, has stood with the Democratic leadership in Raliegh blocking almost all immigration enforcement bills offered. This has taken place under my close and personal observations and is reinforced by my 15 years of experience working in and around the NC General Assembly. Also, I used to work for Kay Hagan some back in the day so I think I know here and her key allies pretty well on this issue and many others.

Losing Elizabeth Dole in 2008 would be a terrible blow to our cause and she would be replaced by a candidate that you can bet on support Amnesty for illegal aliens.

We may not always agree on endorsements, but let us stick with the facts of the matter please.

I will post an audio copy of our ad on behalf of Senator Dole soon for all of you to hear.

William Gheen
President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC
www.alipac.us

Originally Posted by CSODeputy08

It's a shame a survey is the only thing that kept Chris Gorman from being endorsed over the other canidate. It would seem there would be other qualifiers besides a survey that would invoke a endorsement from ALIPAC for a canidate in my opinion.

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CSODeputy08,

Welcome to ALIPAC. I hope you will take the time to get to know more about our operations before making such statements.

The betterimmigration.com surveys are not the only criteria we use in our candidate endorsements process, but we do promote those surveys and often use them as a starting point in our analysis.

Yes, it did weigh heavily against the Gorman campaign that they did not bother to respond to the multiple copies of NumbersUSA's survey's send to their campaign. We highly respect NumbersUSA and work with them often. The Goreman campaign also did not respond to ALIPAC's information requests sent several weeks ago before we endorsed Flemming.

There are other factors, such as the fact that Mr. Flemming was the one that introduced the illegal immigration issue into this race, not Gorman. Furthermore, Jim Gilchrist is backing Gorman and that is usually a bad sign for our movement as we believe Gilchrist's judgment on candidates is skewed after he endorsed Mike Huckabee and over 80 leaders in our movement signed an open letter disagreeing with his actions and ZERO leaders, out of hundred, came to Gilchrist's side on that. Gilchrist is desperate for attention and has very little real knowledge of campaigns around the country so when we see the hundreds of other groups ignored by a campaign, but they are clinging to a Gilchrist endorsement, that is usually a bad sign.

Our volunteer researchers have taken a second and third look at this race and I have personally interviewed Mr. Flemming and received written and public assurances from him. He greatly values our endorsement and we are satisfied at this time he is the best choice for voters in the interest of our movement.

Here is my open statement for your campaign and the media.

Clarification on John Fleming Endorsement in LA
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-136172.html

We can certainly appreciate your advocacy for you candidate Goreman and we appreciate your campaign's stances and advocacy for more immigration enforcement.

It is great to see so many people running on our issue of interest, but in this case, our support will remain with Flemming after careful and multiple considerations.

It is great that voters have two candidates supporting more immigration enforcement, but we feel that the current leader in the race Mr. Flemming is the best place for us to establish candidate access and focus our support.

William Gheen
Americans for Legal Immigration PAC
www.alipac.us

Mr. Gheen, sorry if I came off as brash, I've been supporting ALIPAC for 3 years now, just don't tend to post.. From a law enforcement perspective, I see what most citizens don't and that is the continual miss use of resources to house illegals and the man hours to transport/do paperwork for their deportation via ICE agents within my region. Not to mention the limitation on Spanish speakers we have in my dept, so if a call goes out to interagate a Spanish speaking subject, we have to wait til a interpretor gets there.

I feel confident Chris Gorman will better help us in our fight against illegal immigration and confident he will win..

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Originally Posted by CSODeputy08

It's a shame a survey is the only thing that kept Chris Gorman from being endorsed over the other canidate. It would seem there would be other qualifiers besides a survey that would invoke a endorsement from ALIPAC for a canidate in my opinion.

CSODeputy08,

Welcome to ALIPAC. I hope you will take the time to get to know more about our operations before making such statements.

The betterimmigration.com surveys are not the only criteria we use in our candidate endorsements process, but we do promote those surveys and often use them as a starting point in our analysis.

Yes, it did weigh heavily against the Gorman campaign that they did not bother to respond to the multiple copies of NumbersUSA's survey's send to their campaign. We highly respect NumbersUSA and work with them often. The Goreman campaign also did not respond to ALIPAC's information requests sent several weeks ago before we endorsed Flemming.

There are other factors, such as the fact that Mr. Flemming was the one that introduced the illegal immigration issue into this race, not Gorman. Furthermore, Jim Gilchrist is backing Gorman and that is usually a bad sign for our movement as we believe Gilchrist's judgment on candidates is skewed after he endorsed Mike Huckabee and over 80 leaders in our movement signed an open letter disagreeing with his actions and ZERO leaders, out of hundred, came to Gilchrist's side on that. Gilchrist is desperate for attention and has very little real knowledge of campaigns around the country so when we see the hundreds of other groups ignored by a campaign, but they are clinging to a Gilchrist endorsement, that is usually a bad sign.

Our volunteer researchers have taken a second and third look at this race and I have personally interviewed Mr. Flemming and received written and public assurances from him. He greatly values our endorsement and we are satisfied at this time he is the best choice for voters in the interest of our movement.

Here is my open statement for your campaign and the media.

Clarification on John Fleming Endorsement in LA
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-136172.html

We can certainly appreciate your advocacy for you candidate Goreman and we appreciate your campaign's stances and advocacy for more immigration enforcement.

It is great to see so many people running on our issue of interest, but in this case, our support will remain with Flemming after careful and multiple considerations.

It is great that voters have two candidates supporting more immigration enforcement, but we feel that the current leader in the race Mr. Flemming is the best place for us to establish candidate access and focus our support.

William Gheen
Americans for Legal Immigration PAC
www.alipac.us[/quote]

Anyway, let's go now to Lieutenant Colonel William Russell. He is a guy who is running against Murtha in Pennsylvania. And if I'm not mistaken, Bill, you are just a regular guy who just had enough. You are not a politician. You just decided to run because you couldn't take Murtha anymore?

RUSSELL: Well, that's correct, Glenn. And certainly it really hit me about a year and a half ago. I was stationed at the Pentagon and, of course, I had seen Mr. Murtha's comments, one calling for withdrawal from Iraq and two throwing the Hadith Marines under the bus. But the effect that that was having in terms of encouraging this really hit me emotionally when we had a visit from wounded warriors come to the Pentagon in March of '07. Of course, I had seen Mr. Murtha's comments, one calling for withdrawal from Iraq and two throwing the ID for Marines under the bus but the effect that that was having in terms of this really hit me emotionally when we had a visit from the wounded warriors come to the Pentagon in March of '07 and to see these men and women with the levels of wounds they had, some of them missing arms and legs, a lot of them had their shattered limbs being held together by the steel spikes going into the bones with the external braces and a couple had been wounded in the face and lost eyes. And it just really hit me emotionally that Mr. Murtha's encouragement of the enemy and putting the United States stamp of approval on enemy propaganda, just couldn't stand it anymore and that's my big why of getting into this race.

GLENN: And he has basically said that civilians were just sitting out in a room or they were in a field and they were executed on purpose by our troops. We were killing innocent women and children over there, and he has never apologized for that.

RUSSELL: That's correct. In effect, in his interview with the Pittsburgh Post Gazette in which that was one of the first interviews in which he made his racist comments. He also reiterated that he would not apologize to the Hadith Marines and in effect claim that he had claimed some positive effect by accusing these Marines of murder and it really is just, it's astounding to me because at every turn his comments have, one, put these Marines through hell all these -- in fact, one of them, in fact, is from our district that has put these Marines through, just turned their lives absolutely upside down. In fact, we've still got one who is still waiting to go to trial and all the others have been exonerated. Two, it has undermined our troops in the fight by encouraging the enemy and put out in the Arab street. And he put the United States congress stamp of approval on basically a terrorist front group acting as humanitarian rights group that got their story published in Time magazine. And when he endorsed that and put the congressional stamp of approval on it, it has impacted our ability to even negotiate our status of forces to protect United States soldiers from being subjected to Sharia law in the Middle East because --

GLENN: Let me -- because I've got a lot to cover with you. Let me just go on a couple of other things here real quick and then I want to get to some policies that you have that are not the same as Murtha. First of all, the racist comment is not the first time he said something like this. And even if you remember what Barack Obama said, Murtha has said the same thing, that people get bitter and they cling to guns and religion and it's a way to explain their frustration. I mean, he's done all of these things as well. He just doesn't stop. Are there racist, bitter people there in your constituency or what you hope to be your constituency?

RUSSELL: You know, there -- I mean, every district you've got a very small percentage but what was such a slap in the face about what he said is that this is an area that votes its values, it's a very pro life district. Yes, it is a very religious district and certainly they hold to their values of that fierce independence and the idea that every man's home is his castle and fully support that light of self-defense. But they vote their values. They, in fact, voted for Lynn Swann for governor, a black conservative, but they are adamantly opposed to Barack Obama because Barack Obama is, one, such an adamant pro abortion candidate, he is antigun rights, and everything he stands for is opposed to the core values of people of this district.

GLENN: Right.

RUSSELL: And to attribute that to the lowest possible of all motivations is just such a direct insult and it shows how little respect Mr. Murtha has for the constituents of the district and has just been demonstrated over and over again by his actions and his words.

GLENN: WilliamRussellforcongress.com is your website.

RUSSELL: Yes.

GLENN: You say that you want to strengthen the castle doctrine because Murtha has tried to water it down. With you explain?

RUSSELL: He also helped rewrite the D.C. gun law that was so restrictive, that was thrown out by the Supreme Court, and he helped write one and broker the deal on the new one that is almost as restrictive as the old one and will certainly be challenged in court. But with regard to, you know, locally he has been endorsed by the NRA as most incumbents are and so he hasn't actually been too bad on guns as far as Mr. Murtha's policies himself. The only way he has diverted from that has been one in the D.C. law and, two, in his vote for Barack Obama.

GLENN: He's also, a lot of people are afraid in your district that if you lose Murtha, you'll lose a lot of money. I mean, he's funneled $870 million to his district. That's an, I mean almost a billion dollars has gone to his district. How do you respond to that?

RUSSELL: Well, most people are beginning to realize that, one, the money that he is funneling into the district is only benefitting the selected few, specifically those who are close supporters of him. And two, it has undercut the development of business in the district. And three, he has specifically blocked development of economies that would grow independently of his earmarks. Basically he has developed an economy of dependence which requires his reelection. And what I want to see us do is develop our coal-to-liquid fuel, actually produce, get fuel for the Air Force in this area that could not only service the Air Force but the entire airline industry. We could do this economically and keep the price of gasoline and fuel down. And this region, we should be leading toward energy independence. We've got the greatest coal and natural gas reserves in the nation and we shouldn't need to wait on the next handout from Washington. And so what I'm proposing is that we develop industries that will grow beyond the defense industry and will answer the needs of the national and international markets.

GLENN: Murtha has said there's no G damned way he's going to lose. That's a quote. The arrogance of this guy just boggles my mind. People, are you starting to get the Republicans to look at you and look at your race as something that you actually could win? I see there's two polls. I think you have -- in one you're down by four. The other has, what is it, up by 13, or is that Murtha down by 4 and Murtha up by 13? But you're competitive?

RUSSELL: Yes. Yes, we are. And the one that shows the Susquehanna poll is the one that has me down by 4. And certainly that one's probably more indicative of our internal polls and closer would show us hovering about 50% because that one, the Susquehanna poll is within the margin of error, et cetera. The other one is Robo Poll. Yeah, we would like to believe it but, you know, we're still in a tight race; let's keep running as if we're neck and neck.

GLENN: Well, I've got to tell you, I hope if the people of Pennsylvania send you to Washington D.C. that you clear out the rats nest and you keep the honor that you obviously have and you learned in the military and you serve the people and do the right thing and stand up against the weasels.

RUSSELL: I'll certainly hold to those values, Glenn, and thank you so much for your compliments on that.

GLENN: You bet. You bet. Retired Lieutenant Colonel William Russell. He is running now. You can find out all the information about him at WilliamRussellforcongress.com. If you want to do something, I've been saying you want to get involved, you are supposed to seek these people out, which is what we're trying to do on the program. Seek these people out. If you hear one of them that you think, okay, that guy could make a difference, I would ask that you would support him. If you can't support this guy, find somebody else. But support these people. They need your support. That is, WilliamRussellforcongress.com. Thanks, Bill, talk to you again.

RUSSELL: Thank you so much, Glenn. Take care.


http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articl ... 196/17442/

Are we doing robo calls for Russell?

William Russell's site:

http://williamrussellforcongress.com/

http://www.russellbrigade.com

Dick Zimmer on Immigration…from his webpage
Zimmer believes that America’s immigration policy should be based on what is best for America. An essential part of being a sovereign nation is the ability to protect its own borders. Zimmer believes in order to protect our nation from out-of-control illegal immigration, we must build a physical fence on our border and augment it with state-of-the-art detection systems. To reduce the economic incentives for illegal immigration, he supports tamper-proof employee identification and strict employer sanctions. Zimmer opposes amnesty for those who broke our laws to come to this country. It is wrong to reward those who have cut in line while punishing others trying to immigrate legally. America was built on legal immigration and we need to ensure that the law is being enforced.
also this coverage of a debate
Lautenberg, Zimmer disagree on almost everything in debate
U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) and his Republican challenger, former congressman Dick Zimmer, disagreed about taxes, benefits for illegal immigrants and their records as they met in their first debate last night, less than a week before Election Day. Zimmer tried to blame Lautenberg for doing nothing during his 24 years in the Senate to avert the current financial crisis, while Lautenberg accused Zimmer of voting against federal health and education programs when he served in the House. ... Asked by one of the station's callers about federal benefits for illegal immigrants, Zimmer said, "I oppose health and education benefits being paid for by the federal government for people who came here illegally," while Lautenberg had supported such programs. Lautenberg countered by asking if the child of an illegal immigrant has a contagious disease, should others in the community be exposed "or do we want to get that child treated?" Lautenberg got an F on betterimmigration.com
Zimmer got a C- as a former congressman. So I will leave the decision up to Alipac to endorse him or not He is certainly better than the Democrat candidate.
www.zimmerforsenate.com