kathyet, I must respectfully disagree with Sen. Rand Paul and Marygreeley1954. We cannot stand aloof from our ally Israel while madmen perform warlike provocations - even acts of war - and prepare to kill as many Jews as they can.
(I'm not telling you anything you don't know when I write this:
Iran declared war against the U.S. in 1979 and has never called a truce since. Through Hamas, Hezbollah, and other Mus|im Brotherhood affiliates, Iran has been waging a terrorist campaign of war against Israel and the Jews for at least 25 or 30 years. Iran is supplied and supported by Russia and Communist China, armed with Russian military hardware, defended by advanced Russian anti-aircraft systems, and mentored by working relationships with Russia's nuclear program. Just as North Korea is Red China's military proxy, Iran is Russia's military proxy.)
Why does the United States have standing armies, in conflict with the Founders' expressed intent to the contrary? Is it not because, ever since Imperial Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941, we can no longer defend our country by just calling up the militia like a volunteer fire department. We sacrifice thousands of young lives, lives filled with promise, and spend trillions of dollars... not to force the blessing of freedom upon the billions enslaved by despots and malignant ideologies, not to spread the employee wages and consumer benefits of capitalism around the globe, not to set up constitutional republics governed by democratically elected representatives, not even to compel the heathen nations to come into God's family by trusting the blood sacrifice of His Son for salvation from sin and death, the devil and hell. It is nothing so idealistic as all that.
We have armed forces to defend our country and ourselves:
- because evil is loosed upon the world and loose in the world system;
- because millions of people envy us, hate us and want to kill us or enslave us, taking for themselves the blessings God has so richly bestowed upon us - our families, our homes and our native land, our health care, education, and welfare safety net systems, our pleasures, privileges, lifestyles and cellphones, and our position at the top of the heap;
- because entire nations are stirred up to violent hatred by toxic ideologies, false religions, and the lusts and ambitions of powerful and persuasive men;
- because America is "a city set on a hill" and "a lamp put on a lampstand," which makes other nations look bad, and "because their deeds are evil," they would rather bury the truth - and us with it - than be shown up as wrong.
The mad moolahs are possessed by a Satanic religious insanity, and they will steal, kill, and destroy the Jews and America to the extent of their capabilities... until Jesus returns and sees that insane ideology cast into the lake of fire, along with the Eurocentric, communist, atheistic, one world government. Those two kingdoms will no longer exist when Messiah, enthroned in Jerusalem, rules and reigns over all the earth for a thousand years.
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Originally Posted by marygreeley1954
Nothing is nice about war. War is "all-out ugly." If all-out war could be any dirtier, it would be.
This recent Senate bill is hardly an article of aggression, since Iran declared war upon the U.S. in November of 1979 and has never withdrawn that declaration of war. Need someone to blame for the Senate "war declaration"? Point your finger at Iran. The Senate is merely responding with an acknowledgement that Iran's standing declaration of war against the U.S. can no longer be ignored, and that nµclear weapons cannot be allowed to fall into the hands of madmen who have openly declared their intent to destroy Israel, and who are also threatening the U.S. through the invasion by hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Hezbollah cell members, all over the U.S..
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We’ve been warned over and over again by knowledgeable sources such as the LA Times and Family Security Matters that Iran has sleeper cells thoughout the US just waiting to unleash un-holy Armageddon upon Americans should we launch an attack against them. From the LA Times story linked above:
” Iranian terrorist cells inside the U.S. have weapons, explosives, money and safe houses; they use contacts with Mexican and Latin American drug cartels to smuggle explosives and weapons into the U.S.”
“They have very detailed information about sensitive sites such as bridges, railroads, airports, military bases, power plants, nuclear sites, water plants, railway stations,” he says.
“If the U.S. or Israel attacked Iran, he says, sleeper cells inside the U.S. would launch suicide bombings and sabotage. Iran would attack Israel and U.S. bases in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf.”
So, if Marygreeley1954 were to find rattlesnakes living under her house, she would let them be, in hopes that they would understand her inaction and return the favor. The book of Proverbs has a name for people like that; I'm just not allowed to use it. (But I can still think it.)
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And somehow, this is the reason why we should NOT defend Israel from Iran?
The illegal alien invasion, specifically, the invasion by Iranian illegal aliens and their reunitings in Hezbollah cells around the nation, are all the more reasons to put an end to the Iranian threats, not cause to give in to them.
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We’ve learned that Iran practices shooting off EMP missiles on a regular basis.
An EMP attack at 300 mile altitude, or even at 30 mile altitude, by high-altitude balloon would be unworkable, nonguidable, and indefensible. Iran could launch an intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM) attack from Venezuela or from a submarine purchased from Russia. However, that would be a "brick-and-mortar" based attack, which would provoke an automatic, immediate, and overwhelming retaliatory response against the launching nation and its infrastructure. MAD doctrine makes such an attack by an identifiable nation a thing of the past. Thermonuclear fusion weapons became so powerful and deadly that using them became morally and existentially objectionable. MAD pushed their use off the table except as the "doomsday" option. At that point in the history of warfare, terrorism - flexible, portable, and untraceable - became the weapon delivery system of choice.
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In fact, should they do this to the US after being attacked, over 90% of Americans would likely be dead within 10 months because of the widespread loss of what we depend upon most, electrical power. What a failure of National Security that would be. In the meantime, our own DHS has been shown to NOT have a plan to deal with an EMP attack. How many millions of dollars have these “people” wasted worrying about the trivial while neglecting potential attacks that could leave 90% of our country dead? This doesn’t pass the smell test.
Horsefeathers. Loss of electrical power would kill 90% of Americans within ten months? Puh-l-l-e-e-a-s-s-e! That's an insult to the Boy Scouts and Royal Raangers, not to mention active-duty and reserve military personnel. Those alarmists need to take a month-long wilderness camping trip.
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How is it that these Senate ‘leaders’ of our once great nation don’t take into account the potential loss of lives of hundreds of millions of Americans should we do something so insane as to launch an attack against a nation that hasn’t attacked another foreign nation in over 250 years?
Liar, liar, pants on fire. Four Pinnochios.
Student revolutionaries took over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran for 444 days, from Nov. 4, 1979, until Pres. Ronald Reagan was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 1981.
After Iraq invaded Iran in 1980, in 1983, Iran invaded Basrah in Iraq.
That's just in 3 particularly bad years. Do we really need to look up the history of Iran's "religion of peace" all the way back to 1762?
Iran has been threatening to "wipe Israel off the map" for years, but its quest for atomic bσmbs now makes that a serious threat, not to be ignored. Iran is enriching uranium to a U-235 concentration of 20% or higher, for which the atomic bσmb is the only application (at 90+%): .
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Iran’s own
neighbor secretly owns enough nµclear weapons to wipe out Iran and all the rest of the Middle East along with it.
Would that neighbor be Pakistan? I don't expect that the Middle East is particularly threatened by Pakistani nµkes, which were manufactured to counter India's nµkes.
But Marygreeley1954's anti-semitic tone leads one to believe she is taling about Israel. If Israel's nµclear arsenal is a secret, how does she know about it, and how does she have a count of warheads on hand?
Israel has made no nµclear weapon threats against anyone, even as retaliation in kind. Any perceived threat to Is|amic states would appear to be mere projection. Just because enemies of Israel want to blow it out to sea doesn't mean that Israel has any such desires in return.
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Any attack upon Iran should be thought out a whole lot more before we just go charging full steam ahead like we’ve done far too many times in the last 50 years. The lives of 9 out of the 10 people you see around you right now could very well be at stake with another disastrous US military decision. Or, is that what they want?
It's not the U.S. military decision that would be disastrous.
If Iran were to choose to openly attack the U.S. with an IRBM EMP attack, that would truly be INSANE. Of course, the Shi'ites believe that igniting World War IV would somehow cause the 12th Imam to show up or the Shi'ite Mahdi to stand up and take over the world (just as the Antichrist will do at some point during the seven year tribulation period before the 2nd Coming of Christ).
And that is undoubtedly what the Shi'ites want.
