Re: Certification of live birth vs Certificate of live birth
[quote="jcsjcm"]I didn't get to read all posts, but I had to post for those that state his Certification of live birth is a Certificate of live birth. I have a Hawaiian Certificate of live birth here: http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploa ... e-1963.jpg
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"Certificate of Live Birth"
Item "7c. County and State or Foreign Country".
1. Am I seeing things: Can a person be born in a "Foreign Country" and still get a birth certificate----a "Certificate of Live Birth"---from the state
of Hawaii?
2. Am I seeing things: Can a person be born in ANOTHER U.S. State and
get a birth certificate from Hawaii?
3. All of the above statements seem weird to me.
4. My point is this: How can a person born in another country or another U.S. state still obtain a valid, legal birth certificate from Hawaii?
5. It doesn't make sense that a person can be born somewhere else besides Hawaii and yet obtain a valid, legal birth certificate from Hawaii as if he was born in Hawaii.
Re: Certification of live birth vs Certificate of live birth
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Originally Posted by mirse
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Originally Posted by jcsjcm
I didn't get to read all posts, but I had to post for those that state his Certification of live birth is a Certificate of live birth. I have a Hawaiian Certificate of live birth here:
http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploa ... e-1963.jpg
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"Certificate of Live Birth"
Item "7c. County and State or Foreign Country".
1. Am I seeing things: Can a person be born in a "Foreign Country" and still get a birth certificate----a "Certificate of Live Birth"---from the state
of Hawaii?
2. Am I seeing things: Can a person be born in ANOTHER U.S. State and
get a birth certificate from Hawaii?
3. All of the above statements seem weird to me.
4. My point is this: How can a person born in another country or another U.S. state still obtain a valid, legal birth certificate from Hawaii?
5. It doesn't make sense that a person can be born somewhere else besides Hawaii and yet obtain a valid, legal birth certificate from Hawaii as if he was born in Hawaii.
That is an oddity of Hawaii. They have both a "Certificate of Live Birth" and a "Certification of live Birth". One, simply states a person was born and makes a public record of their existence without making any citizenship claims. The other is more like the other 49 states. It is usually filed by the midwife or hospital that delivered the baby and is indeed proof of citizenship. I have read in many places that the cert on the web is not the citizenship version of the record.
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Originally Posted by iQuestionEverything
..if there was ANY time to call Americans:
STUPID or LAZY..
..it would be NOW..!! 8O
Related: www.alipac.us/ftopict-134286-.html 8O
:wink:
WHY is this VERY important subject being moved from the General Discussion..?
We're talking of THE BIGGEST illegal alien..
..EVER..!! :twisted:
I Agree 100%
Now most importantly, I would like to say:
WELCOME TO ALIPAC JCSJCM, IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US!!!
What if it turns out that he was a citizen all along?
What if it turns out that he was a citizen all along?
It won't.
We have the recorded testimony of Barack Obama II's Kenyan step-grandmother or step-mother, Mama Sarah, on video, on audio, and by transcript. "Barack ñate dhailani." In the Luo dialect of Swahili, that means "Barack born of village," or "Barack native of village." Take your pick.
To corroborate that, we have the testimony of his half-sister and half-brother in Kenya.
We have the facts Dr. Jerome Corsi presented in Obama Nation, which caused the Kenyan government so much consternation that they arrested him before the news conference where he was to present his evidence, and possibly his witnesses. Kenya then deported him and told him not to come back.
We have the expert analysis and testimony of three fraud and counterfeiting consultants. The "Certification of Live Birth" posted by Daily Kos and FactCheck is both Photoshopped, which makes it invalid, and a counterfeit... a very bad counterfeit.
We have the Indonesian school record which listed his nationality as "Indonesian", citizenship which was necessary to have enrolled in school. Obama has not presented any evidence of an oath of allegiance between age 18 and 18½ to reclaim his U.S. citizenship.
We have knowledge of his visit to Pakistan at age 20, possibly to Pashtun territory for a "quail hunt," and probably on his Indonesian passport. That would violate too many laws to list. (Traveling on a U.S. passport would have been problematic, or dangerous, while touring Pakistan, especially north and west Pakistan.)
We have record of his sus picious behavior in sealing his vault long form Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, presenting a forged short form Certification in its place, and sealing his admission and financial aid records from Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, his faculty records at the University of Chicago, his medical records, and any other record which might include a copy of his long form Certificate of Live Birth.
We have record of his associations with Syrian convict Tony Rezko, Black Liberation Theology preacher Jeremiah (Wrong) Wright, and high profile Islamists such as former PLO operative Rashid Khalidi. Every notable in Islam except Osama bin Laden has endorsed or celebrated his election as POTUS. Osama must not be feeling well...
We have record of enormous illegal foreign contributions to his campaign, including $200 million which was apparently foreign currency, some being exchanged for dollars in "odd cents" amounts. Major contributors to political campaigns almost always expect major returns on investments. The Saudis are no different. Can you say, "Sharia-compliant finance?"
No, that doesn't mean "no more pork in the Congressional Appropriations bill."
Barack Obama II emerged from the corrupt Chicago political machine with many condemning connections but no identifying labels. No one has examined his Certificate of Live Birth to vet his Constitutional qualifications: not the DNC, not the DOJ, not the FEC, not the State Dept., not the CIA, not the relevant Senate committee, not (fill in the blank).
If he really was born in Honolulu, why does he not just show a Hawaii Dept. of Health-embossed, hospital-certified, paper "vault copy" of the long form birth certificate and make this all go away?
WHY NOT?