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    an american problem

    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.

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    an american problem

    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.

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    Re: an american problem

    Quote Originally Posted by never_more2000
    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.
    Admiring the gang culture and putting them on a pedestal? Who are you referring to?

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    Re: an american problem

    Quote Originally Posted by never_more2000
    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.
    Admiring the gang culture and putting them on a pedestal? Who are you referring to?

    One of the top leaders of MS13 was arrested in South Texas last month and is believed to be responsible for a deadly bus massacre in South America. He reportedly also has issued orders to incite violence on the upcoming MinuteMan project.

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    never_more2000 - Welcome to ALIPAC!

    As far as your comment of:


    Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.

    [b]Your comment is a little harsh. I don't think you actually meant you hate Pres. Bush, but that your not too fond of some of his policies. The only place that gang culture is celebrated is in the rap movement, not in other parts of society. But I have heard many rappers who are against some of the music other rappers are putting out. They too are disgusted with it and want to make changes. I don't know how old/young you are, but when Elvis became popular a lot of people thought he would be the downfall of our country too.

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    never_more2000 - Welcome to ALIPAC!

    As far as your comment of:


    Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.

    [b]Your comment is a little harsh. I don't think you actually meant you hate Pres. Bush, but that your not too fond of some of his policies. The only place that gang culture is celebrated is in the rap movement, not in other parts of society. But I have heard many rappers who are against some of the music other rappers are putting out. They too are disgusted with it and want to make changes. I don't know how old/young you are, but when Elvis became popular a lot of people thought he would be the downfall of our country too.

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    Re: an american problem

    Quote Originally Posted by never_more2000
    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.
    1st, welcome to the forum. Sorry, but you are wrong. The gangs originated in El Salvador. These gangs are evil, duh, and it has everything to do with illegal foreigners. "American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal." What? Who is admiring gang culture? Please read the link:

    http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/ms/ms_001.htm
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    Re: an american problem

    Quote Originally Posted by never_more2000
    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.
    1st, welcome to the forum. Sorry, but you are wrong. The gangs originated in El Salvador. These gangs are evil, duh, and it has everything to do with illegal foreigners. "American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal." What? Who is admiring gang culture? Please read the link:

    http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/ms/ms_001.htm
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    Re: an american problem

    Quote Originally Posted by never_more2000
    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.
    Welcome Never More!

    You don't have to love Bush to be on this site. There are many here that have a lot of respect for him, but many others that have found their respect dwindling as the news continues to come in. We are a diverse group.

    I agree that America has a gangster culture problem, but I do not consider MS-13 our creation by any means. MS-13 does not reflect the things that made our culture strong and prosperous. We did not ask the illegal immigrants to come here and we are fighting the MS-13 human slave smuggling activities.

    America has experienced its problems with gangs throughout history, the big difference is that gangs never held as much sway over Governments as these newer Latino gangs do. They are paramilitary in nature and our citizens are not going to live in the fear that citizens south of the border do.

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    Re: an american problem

    Quote Originally Posted by never_more2000
    This problem has very little to do with foriegners. This malice is a product of California. The 18th street gang and the MS13 gang both origanated in California than moved to El Salvador. Now I hate Bush and dislike most of his decisions but this has nothing to do with his willing workers bill, this has to do with the American Gang culture that we admire and put on a pedistal.
    Welcome Never More!

    You don't have to love Bush to be on this site. There are many here that have a lot of respect for him, but many others that have found their respect dwindling as the news continues to come in. We are a diverse group.

    I agree that America has a gangster culture problem, but I do not consider MS-13 our creation by any means. MS-13 does not reflect the things that made our culture strong and prosperous. We did not ask the illegal immigrants to come here and we are fighting the MS-13 human slave smuggling activities.

    America has experienced its problems with gangs throughout history, the big difference is that gangs never held as much sway over Governments as these newer Latino gangs do. They are paramilitary in nature and our citizens are not going to live in the fear that citizens south of the border do.

    William
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