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Ben Swann Maine Delegate Story Update - 08/07/2012
Submitted by Furious Primate on Wed, 08/08/2012 - 18:12
Delegates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzuSD...layer_embedded
From his Facebook page...
HUGE DEVELOPING STORY:
I've told you for months about the GOP establishment's efforts to control the Republican National Convention... here is more unbelievable proof of how far they are willing to go. In the state of Maine, it is well documented that 21 of the 24 delegates are strong supporters of Congressman Ron Paul. Those 21 delegates plan to go to Tampa later this month and cast a vote for Dr. Paul to receive the nomination.
A little over a week ago, 20 of those 21 delegates were told that their credentials were being challenged by Mr. Peter Cianchette (who headed the Romney campaign in Maine). The grounds for the challenge... that 20 of these 21 delegates were illegally elected to represent Maine. As a result, the RNC planned to not seat the entire Maine delegation at the RNC in Tampa.
Now, here is where it gets really interesting. This weekend, the RNC, via Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster offered a "compromise"... take a look:1. A majority of the delegates sign a statement agreeing that, if Ron Paul is not on the ballot, they will vote at the Convention for Mitt Romney.
2. Instead of Brent Tweed, Charlie Webster or Paul LePage would serve as the spokesperson for the delegation and announce the votes cast for president. That spokesperson would also handle all media on behalf of the Maine delegation.
3. There will be nothing negative said about Mitt Romney or positive said about Obama (especially to media)
4. The Delegation will be admitted to the Convention, and to all committee assignments, without barrier.
5. The Contest brought by Jan Staples and Peter Cianchette will be withdrawn
Tonight at 10:00 PM.. Reality Check is going to break down all the details of this.. as well as two unrelated efforts to block Gov. Romney from receiving the Republican nomination.
For now, you can read the official response from the Maine delegation to the RNC "Compromise" here: Just scroll to the bottom to read the PDF's for yourself.
http://www.fox19.com/stor...
Ben Swann Maine Delegate Story Update - 08/07/2012 | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Media Reports Paul Won Five States Needed for Nomination, Romney Breaks Rules to Deny Speaking Slot
Submitted by James_Madison_Lives on Tue, 08/07/2012 - 15:35
Ron Paul 2012
http://ralphlopez.hubpages.com/hub/Media-Reports-Ron-Paul-Wi...
Here's the research to hit people in the face with. Case closed.
Note: article revised 8/8/2012. Washington makes it six.
Continuing the bizarre shadow dance with reality, the major media has reported that Ron Paul has indeed won the five state minimum required to be on the ballot for nomination at the Republican Convention this month, even as it continues to imply the opposite. The latest parallel universe is the Nebraska story, in which "Ron Paul's Delegate Insurgency Ends." This is ABC News.
That's right, ABC News:
"Nebraska could have given Paul the support of a plurality of delegates in five states; according to Republican National Committee rules, Paul would have been officially eligible as a candidate for the nomination at the Tampa convention. Organizers would be required to grant Paul’s faction up to 15 minutes for a nominating speech."But the media forgot its own reporting. Ron Paul has already won six states, and maybe more: Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, Louisiana, Iowa, and Washington.
Washington Post: "Ron Paul wins majority of Nevada delegates":
"Thanks to organized Paul supporters, who have been working to increase their candidate’s support at state conventions around the country, 22 of the 25 Nevada delegates up for grabs will be Paul supporters."Fox News: "Ron Paul wins 21 of 25 delegates elected in Iowa":
........MORE AT HUBPAGES ARTICLE
Media Reports Paul Won Five States Needed for Nomination, Romney Breaks Rules to Deny Speaking Slot | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Video: Ron Paul Exposes United Nations Plan to Destroy US and Take Over the World
Submitted by Allegory on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 12:15
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An oldie but a goodie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ArUoyuDd74&feature=player_embedded
Video: Ron Paul Exposes United Nations Plan to Destroy US and Take Over the World | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Revolution In Michigan’s 11th: Paul – 1, Santorum – 0
Submitted by emalvini on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 12:24
Ron Paul 2012
REVOLUTION IN MICHIGAN’S 11TH: PAUL – 1, SANTORUM – 0
Kerry Bentivolio is a great liberty candidate running for Congress in Michigan’s 11th District. Bentivolio has been endorsed by Ron Paul, Rand Paul and Justin Amash.
His Republican primary opponent was Nancy Cassis, endorsed by Rick Santorum and much of the Illinois GOP establishment.
Reports Human Events:
Near-final results showed 60-year-old Kerry Bentivolio, an area leader in Ron Paul’s presidential campaign, winning more than 60 percent of the vote over Nancy Cassis, former state senator who ran as a write-in candidate…
Obviously alarmed at the thought of a Paul man being their nominee, local GOP leaders rallied behind the 68-year-old Cassis…
And it didn’t matter. The liberty candidate still won.
rEVOLution in Michigan's 11th: Paul - 1, Santorum - 0*|*Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign CommitteeRon Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee
Revolution In Michigan
High-ranking Mexican Drug Cartel Member Makes Explosive Allegation: ‘fast And Furious’ Is Not What You Think It Is
Submitted by fedup911 on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 13:27
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A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative currently in U.S. custody is making startling allegations that the failed federal gun-walking operation known as “Fast and Furious” isn’t what you think it is.
It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.
The explosive allegations are being made by Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, known as the Sinaloa Cartel’s “logistics coordinator.” He was extradited to the Chicago last year to face federal drug charges.
Jesus Vincente Zambada-Niebla (Source: MSNBC)
Zambada-Niebla claims that under a “divide and conquer” strategy, the U.S. helped finance and arm the Sinaloa Cartel through Operation Fast and Furious in exchange for information that allowed the DEA, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies to take down rival drug cartels. The Sinaloa Cartel was allegedly permitted to traffic massive amounts of drugs across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009 — during both Fast and Furious and Bush-era gunrunning operations — as long as the intel kept coming.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/high-ranking-mexican-drug-ca...
...and then of course they can crack down on the 2nd amendment based on "straw purchases" that end up in the hands of drug cartels. Everybody remember all of that talk before the fast and furious scandal broke?!
Incredible.
High-ranking Mexican Drug Cartel Member Makes Explosive Allegation:
Divisions appearing amongst GOP ranks against Romney (over Andrea Saul comments)
Submitted by Ian56 on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 07:40
Daily Paul Liberty Forum
Keep FIGHTING for a brokered convention! Romney is HELPING us with all his screw ups and gaffes. Keep the PRESSURE and heat turned up HIGH on Romney. The more pressure and heat that can be applied the more gaffe's that Romney and his team will make.
Romney is continuing to slide in the polls and questions amongst die-hard GOP are starting to be asked about Romney's nomination in Tampa.
There is a Twitter FireStorm currently raging over this and lots of divisions between different GOP people. Search "Andrea Saul"
Never one to miss an opportunity I am trying to stick red hot needles in the cracks that are appearing. Going for ex Santorum and Gingrich supporters mostly. And generally with Andrea Saul in the post.
Video links for this story (via the_chiefe71)
Using Romney Care to Defend Bain Record Suggests No Obama Care Repeal? - YouTube
Romney Spox: If Only Fired Employee Had 'Romneycare' - YouTube
It should have a very easy task to discredit Obama's angle, but Andrea Saul wasn't up to it. She repeated the blatant lie that Romney left Bain in 1999. She plainly does not know her a** from her elbow.
Ann Coulter Demands Andrea Saul Be Fired Or Conservatives Should Boycott Donating to Romney. Some interesting comments in this article.
If you read RedState, and some of the conservative rags, the rage against Romney is so lively I wonder if some conservatives haven't made the conscious choice that Romney is their equivalent of John Edwards, whose campaign will implode with scandal over taxes, Bain, and perhaps, even other stuff we haven't heard yet, so figure it is better to take him out before the convention, to avoid a total disaster for the GOP in November.
Even though most of us have scoffed at the GOP convention replacement scenarios (even though I wrote one up as a thought starter three months ago,) is it possible hard core Republicans figure sticking with Romney all the way through November after a convention lock in could be worse?
8:31 PM PT: A comment by Nailbanger prompted this question which could become quite a bit more significant if true. From my response to to nailbanger below. Could it
.. be possible that hard core conservatives realize that Romney is going to lose, or maybe even become the "John Edwards of the GOP" so it is better for them to cut their losses, now to preserve their own "credibility."
Like it would be better for their long-term reputations if they go down in history as the folks who took down Romney from the inside, rather than let it look like Democrats did it in a November landslide election that we will then use as evidence of public "repudiation" of their right-wing zealotry.
Dramatically, and publicly turning on Romney now could portray Romney as "the loser" rather than "right-wing zealotry" with would otherwise take the hit in November.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/08/1118160/-Ann-Coulte...
Divisions appearing amongst GOP ranks against Romney (over Andrea Saul comments) | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Liberty movement is roaring! Check this out!
Submitted by CapitalisticOrgy on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 13:59
Liberty Candidates
Quicklink
Must watch speech from SC GOP nominee for Senator Tom Davis. His speech got me so fired up... our movement is snowballing. People are pissed and getting madder by the second. In this week's primary votes, 3 different liberty candidates for congress won their primary. We are taking over, and once we hit the tipping point... we need a new word for one level above SHTF.. like 11 for an amp..
Tom Davis’ Army :: :: FITSNewsFITSNews
Did this pump you up or what? Haha you can clearly hear like 100 people simultaneously saying "Oh helllll no!"
Liberty movement is roaring! Check this out! | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Tom Davis’ Army
By fitsnews • on August 8, 2012
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RON PAUL’S “REVOLUTION” RALLIES BEHIND FISCAL CONSERVATIVE STATE SENATOR
During the 2012 Republican presidential primary, S.C. Senator Tom Davis (R-Beaufort) was one of the most coveted endorsements on the “First in the South” political board. The Politico named him one of its “50 politicos to watch” in early voting states, while a CNN story referenced him as a “rising star” in the national Tea Party movement.
To many insiders, though, Davis squandered his moment – choosing to endorse U.S. Rep. Ron Paul over a trio of establishment “Republicans.” Paul wound up finishing in fourth place in the Palmetto State – although his 80,000 votes represented a five-fold increase over his support from 2008.
So … did Davis squander his moment?
We don’t think so …
Davis’ decision to endorse Paul has netted him an energized army of new South Carolina supporters – a potent base from which to launch a statewide campaign. And Davis has shown remarkable adeptness at rallying this growing movement behind him – mixing Paul’s libertarian ideology with a fierce populist stump presence that’s eerily reminiscent of the late Louisiana Gov. Huey Long (minus the “every man a king” socialism, naturally).
In an especially feisty speech earlier this week, Davis welcomed Paul to South Carolina – praising him among other things for his efforts to audit the Federal Reserve.
“This is not a Republican issue, it’s not a Democratic issue, it’s not a Libertarian issue, it’s an American issue,” Davis said in his speech. ”It’s in our DNA as Americans to stand up as free people.”
According to Davis, Paul’s movement represents another effort to restore fiscal sanity and respect for individual liberty to the Republican brand – two concepts that have been sorely lacking over the last three decades (with costly consequences).
Davis says that Paul’s movement is pushing back against “the statism of the status quo” within the GOP the same way Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan pushed back in the 1960s and 1980s.
And he’s right … it just remains to be seen whether that push will be sufficient (and sufficiently sustained) to make any difference.
Anyway, here’s a clip featuring some of the most “amped up” portions of Davis’ speech …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zqxHl5hVBU&feature=player_embedded
Damn! That’s some fiscal fire and brimstone, people!
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Boats Armed with Automatic Machine Guns to Patrol RNC
Submitted by P.Au.L on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 11:10
Peace / War
TAMPA, Fla. - Law enforcement agencies are planning to boost their patrols of Tampa's waterways during the Republican National Convention. The RNC will be held later this month on the city's waterfront. Federal and local law enforcement agencies say they'll saturate the waterway with armed boat patrols.
The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office says machine guns and infrared technology that can pick up body heat are among the new tools being mounted onto boats for the patrols.
Continue:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Boats-armed-with-machine-gu...
Boats Armed with Automatic Machine Guns to Patrol RNC | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Romney Campaign Spokeswoman's "Romneycare" Gaffe is Going Viral and May Be a Blessing for Paul
Submitted by rpscallion on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 14:07
Daily Paul Liberty Forum
DP Original
Think for a moment - To us that support Ron Paul, of course, this is hardly newsworthy. We are already well aware of Mitt's "Romneycare" and his support for it, just as we are aware of, all of the other, almost identical, similarities between Mitt Romney and Obama.
But, for many of the TV watching voters out there, it is an issue that had been removed from their mind - Dodged by Romney and the right wing media, swept under the rug, and forgotten about completely, in the big "Anyone But Obama", "Republicans vs. Democrat" hype and frenzy.
That is...
Until now.
Now it seems to be going viral, and because of it, videos are surfacing showing Romney speak in pro-healthcare context, media outlets are all over it, and those that forgot all about Mitt's Romneycare now see this issue front and center again.
"So. What's the problem?" you might ask? Well, the truth is, it's a HUGE issue, and thanks to this incident, people are now remembering the mandatory healthcare issue and how important it was back at the beginning of the election cycle - And it is all happening right before the RNC's planned grand Mitt Romney coronation.
The RNC and Romney have to be shitting bricks right now. All of their burying and hiding has just been unearthed and set right back on the dinner table, front and center, voters are realizing it stinks, and a whole lot of desperate-to-remove-Obama republicans are now in deep thought thinking "Wait a minute... I didn't want mandatory health care..." "I thought he was going to repeal it?" etc..
You can bet, a lot of them are delegates as well. And you can be sure, they are wondering how this Romney campaign could ever win now, especially with the simultaneous onslaught of falling Romney percentages in the polls, and numerous other flubs.
All of the sudden "Anyone but Obama" begins to seem very foolish, when the anti-Obama just turned out to be the Obama Twin.
There is now only one other man standing that everyone knows has no baggage and a solid record of not flip flopping, who won't screw them over with bogus promises, that is truly a conservative and that CAN beat Obama - and I'll leave you to figure out who that is.
Keep pushing. Keep praying.
; )
Romney Campaign Spokeswoman's "Romneycare" Gaffe is Going Viral and May Be a Blessing for Paul | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
(Updated w/ Filings 8-9-12) Delegates to the Republican National Convention v. Republican National Committee (Court Documents)
Submitted by NewbornlxlHostage on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 12:06
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Greetings all,
I was asked to make a separate topic discussion for the sake of posting pertinent documentation to the Federal Case for delegates.
I will update as the documents become available in the PACER site. There is some speculation that this lawsuit is a ploy to uncover delegates. I am not as paranoid as some and simply do not have enough facts to put form an opinion. I will post the documentation. Please keep this thread from turning into a flame war and only post constructive questions or comments. I will update when more information is available.
Case numbers:
8:12-cv-00927-DOC-JPR
SACV12-927 DOC (JPRx)
*Updated with filings up to 8-9-2012* Litigation documentation (Google Docs - Download for index, No Sign-In Required):
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B42...lRNTWtCWWNKdFE
Interview Richard Gilbert:
8-8-12: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jeenyus-corner-radio/2012/08/08...
PollMan has another thread going on that captures what I am trying to as well.
Better to have more than one person on this!
http://www.dailypaul.com/239370/lawyers-for-ron-paul-civil-r...
(Updated w/ Filings 8-9-12) Delegates to the Republican National Convention v. Republican National Committee (Court Documents) | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Yes, there will be a Statue of Doctor Paul one day somewhere: The Only Question is...
Submitted by Treg on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:02
..."how tall will it be?"
I suspect that no matter how tall it will be, it will never rise to the heights of this man.
Awesome video from 1983 of Dr Paul ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PGlM2ENHunM#
Yes, there will be a Statue of Doctor Paul one day somewhere: The Only Question is... | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
Conservative Group Launches “Dump Romney” Campaign
Submitted by PWA on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 19:09
Daily Paul Liberty Forum
A group called "Jews and Christians Together," which backed Rick Santorum in the Republican primary, is sending a memo to Republican National Convention delegates urging them not to vote for Mitt Romney at the convention, even if they're bound to him.
The nine-page memo casts Romney's nomination in the direst terms. A press release from the group reads:
"DUMP ROMNEY" contends that no delegates are actually "bound" by law or GOP rules to vote for Romney and that, to win the White House and toss-up Senate seats, delegates must exercise their right to "conscientiously abstain" from Romney on the crucial first ballot, aiming for a stronger ticket leader in subsequent convention voting rounds. The core of a hard-hitting new 80,000 word book and incubating Tampa insurgency, the entire memo can be read online free via Amazon Kindle Cloud Reader using the Amazon.com search term "DUMP ROMNEY." "Were frontrunners simply entitled to the nomination, a convention wouldn't be necessary," the texts say, noting that Intrade predictive markets gives Obama odds of about 60-40 over Romney and that New York Times political analyst Nate Silver projects about 300 electoral votes for Obama, rating Romney's current odds around 21%.http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/conservative-group-launche...
Conservative Group Launches
Conservative Group Launches “Dump Romney” Campaign
“Disgusting and highly inappropriate,” says Ron Paul's campaign manager. Also a bit late in the game. posted Aug 9, 2012 5:30pm EDT
Rosie Gray BuzzFeed Staff
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...4545556-10.jpg
A group called "Jews and Christians Together," which backed Rick Santorum in the Republican primary, is sending a memo to Republican National Convention delegates urging them not to vote for Mitt Romney at the convention, even if they're bound to him.
The nine-page memo casts Romney's nomination in the direst terms. A press release from the group reads:
"DUMP ROMNEY" contends that no delegates are actually "bound" by law or GOPThe memo doesn't specify who Romney should be replaced with.
rules to vote for Romney and that, to win the White House and toss-up
Senate seats, delegates must exercise their right to "conscientiously
abstain" from Romney on the crucial first ballot, aiming for a
stronger ticket leader in subsequent convention voting rounds. The core of a hard-hitting new 80,000 word book and incubating Tampa
insurgency, the entire memo can be read online free via Amazon Kindle
Cloud Reader using the Amazon.com search term "DUMP ROMNEY." "Were
frontrunners simply entitled to the nomination, a convention wouldn't
be necessary," the texts say, noting that Intrade predictive markets
gives Obama odds of about 60-40 over Romney and that New York Times
political analyst Nate Silver projects about 300 electoral votes for
Obama, rating Romney's current odds around 21%.
A core of Ron Paul supporters had been the only organized Republican opposition to accepting Romney as the nominee, but Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton told BuzzFeed that the memo had nothing to do with them, calling it "disgusting and highly inappropriate."
Instead, it's a brainchild of Steve Baldwin, the former chief of the Council for National Policy, a low-profile, well-connected conservative group. Baldwin said the memo was sent out to 20,000 people in politics in media, as well as RNC delegates.
"We’re just saying that Romney has so many liabilities that will be exploited by Obama," Baldwin said in a phone interview. "I don’t have a problems with Mormons personally, but it is a liability issue" among evangelical voters, Baldwin said.
Baldwin said that the people who put together the memo are supporters of different primary candidates, including Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich (Baldwin is a Bachmann supporter).
Jews and Christians Together briefly made the news in March for putting out robocalls in Ohio on behalf of Rick Santorum, then still a presidential candidate. The call accused Romney of supporting "open homosexuality in the military, the appointment of homosexual judges, and the ENDA law, making it illegal to fire a man who wears a dress and high heels to work, even if he's your kid's teacher."
The memo is accompanied by an "expanded" 100-page version, available on Amazon. It devotes a lot of space to attacking Romney's Mormonism as "hostile to American monotheism and hetero-monogamy" (there's even a picture of Brigham Young in drag).
Conservative Group Launches "Dump Romney" Campaign
Poll: Should Republicans Dump Romney in Tampa?
http://iroots.org/wp-content/uploads...rs-150x150.jpg Given the recent fiasco (see video) and the inability of the Romney campaign to effectively take on Obamacare, should the Republican delegates dump Romney at the convention (it has happened before) and pick someone else?
Vote below the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9MK4POgGfA&feature=player_embedded
Should Republican delegates dump Romney at the convention and nominate someone else?
- No.
- Yes.
If so, who should Republicans nominate at the GOP convention in Tampa?
- Paul Ryan
- Jeb Bush
- Ron Paul
- Condoleezza Rice
- Rick Santorum
- Gov. Chris Christie
- General David Petraeus
- Marco Rubio
- Other
http://iroots.org/2012/08/09/poll-sh...mney-in-tampa/
Should Republican delegates dump Romney at the convention and nominate someone else?
- Yes. (98%, 593 Votes)
- No. (2%, 12 Votes)
Total Voters: 605
If so, who should Republicans nominate at the GOP convention in Tampa?
- Ron Paul (94%, 603 Votes)
- Other (2%, 14 Votes)
- Paul Ryan (2%, 11 Votes)
- Rick Santorum (1%, 5 Votes)
- Condoleezza Rice (0%, 3 Votes)
- Jeb Bush (0%, 2 Votes)
- Gov. Chris Christie (0%, 1 Votes)
- General David Petraeus (0%, 0 Votes)
- Marco Rubio (1%, 0 Votes)
Total Voters: 639
The current view of the 2012 presidential election, based on HuffPost Pollster charts and analysis.
Updated: Thursday, Aug. 9 4:29 pm ET
http://assets.elections.huffingtonpo...inny/obama.png Obama 281 Electoral Votes <---- Went down 10 points annnnnd... We Still Have A BINGO Vern
http://assets.elections.huffingtonpo...nny/romney.pngRomney 191 Electoral Votes
270 electoral votes needed to win
Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map
The GOP and RNC have a Suicide Run~Away Train happening and they just dont get it... Romney, just like McCain wasnt picked to Win; he was picked by the Elites to knock out any and all contenders against Obama
These 2 ~ Obama / Romney are Globalists and the Elite have hedged their Bets... there is NO change Coming
It will be a Democrat win and just like Dubya Bush... it will destroy the Conservative Movement and Gut the Republican Party
Obama vs Romney
Last Updated: 8/9
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Battleground States: Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania. General Election? Read the Karl Rove Playbook
Presidential Polls for 2012 Election - Latest Political National Polls
Projections Shift More Towards Obama
Even Karl Rove has Obama winning.
8/3/12
Last week, Obama was up 270-201 in the average of projections. He is doing even better this week.
Even Karl Rove has Obama winning the election outright, with tossup states included.
Obama Romney Tossup (margin) vs Last Week AVERAGE
278
206
Election Projection 332 206 0 - Electoral-Vote 332 206 0 - NationalPolls.com 341 197 0 Obama +32 US Election Atlas 303 235 0 - Race 4 2012 (no tossups) 290 248 0 Romney +26 Five Thirty Eight Nov. 6 Forecast 298 240 0 Obama +12 Huffington Post 290 191 57 Obama +18 NPR 237 206 95 - Washington Post 237 206 95 - Karl Rove 280 182 76 Obama +33 Real Clear Politics 247 191 100 Romney +49 NY Times 237 206 95 Obama +20 CNN 196 159 183 -
Read more at Projections Shift More Towards Obama
Poll: Should Republicans Dump Romney in Tampa?
http://iroots.org/wp-content/uploads...rs-150x150.jpg Given the recent fiasco (see video) and the inability of the Romney campaign to effectively take on Obamacare, should the Republican delegates dump Romney at the convention (it has happened before) and pick someone else?
Vote below the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9MK4POgGfA&feature=player_embedded
Should Republican delegates dump Romney at the convention and nominate someone else?
- No.
- Yes.
If so, who should Republicans nominate at the GOP convention in Tampa?
- Paul Ryan
- Jeb Bush
- Ron Paul
- Condoleezza Rice
- Rick Santorum
- Gov. Chris Christie
- General David Petraeus
- Marco Rubio
- Other
Poll: Should Republicans Dump Romney in Tampa? | iroots.org
Conservative Group Launches “Dump Romney” Campaign
“Disgusting and highly inappropriate,” says Ron Paul's campaign manager. Also a bit late in the game.
posted Aug 9, 2012 5:30pm EDT
Rosie Gray BuzzFeed Staff
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...4545556-10.jpg
A group called "Jews and Christians Together," which backed Rick Santorum in the Republican primary, is sending a memo to Republican National Convention delegates urging them not to vote for Mitt Romney at the convention, even if they're bound to him.
The nine-page memo casts Romney's nomination in the direst terms. A press release from the group reads:"DUMP ROMNEY" contends that no delegates are actually "bound" by law or GOPThe memo doesn't specify who Romney should be replaced with.
rules to vote for Romney and that, to win the White House and toss-up
Senate seats, delegates must exercise their right to "conscientiously
abstain" from Romney on the crucial first ballot, aiming for a
stronger ticket leader in subsequent convention voting rounds. The core of a hard-hitting new 80,000 word book and incubating Tampa
insurgency, the entire memo can be read online free via Amazon Kindle
Cloud Reader using the Amazon.com search term "DUMP ROMNEY." "Were
frontrunners simply entitled to the nomination, a convention wouldn't
be necessary," the texts say, noting that Intrade predictive markets
gives Obama odds of about 60-40 over Romney and that New York Times
political analyst Nate Silver projects about 300 electoral votes for
Obama, rating Romney's current odds around 21%.
A core of Ron Paul supporters had been the only organized Republican opposition to accepting Romney as the nominee, but Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton told BuzzFeed that the memo had nothing to do with them, calling it "disgusting and highly inappropriate."
Instead, it's a brainchild of Steve Baldwin, the former chief of the Council for National Policy, a low-profile, well-connected conservative group. Baldwin said the memo was sent out to 20,000 people in politics in media, as well as RNC delegates.
"We’re just saying that Romney has so many liabilities that will be exploited by Obama," Baldwin said in a phone interview. "I don’t have a problems with Mormons personally, but it is a liability issue" among evangelical voters, Baldwin said.
Baldwin said that the people who put together the memo are supporters of different primary candidates, including Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich (Baldwin is a Bachmann supporter).
Jews and Christians Together briefly made the news in March for putting out robocalls in Ohio on behalf of Rick Santorum, then still a presidential candidate. The call accused Romney of supporting "open homosexuality in the military, the appointment of homosexual judges, and the ENDA law, making it illegal to fire a man who wears a dress and high heels to work, even if he's your kid's teacher."
The memo is accompanied by an "expanded" 100-page version, available on Amazon. It devotes a lot of space to attacking Romney's Mormonism as "hostile to American monotheism and hetero-monogamy" (there's even a picture of Brigham Young in drag).
Conservative Group Launches "Dump Romney" Campaign
Ben Swan Reality Check: Operation Fast and Furious Was Really About U.S. Supporting a Drug Cartel?
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Divisions appearing amongst GOP ranks against Romney (over Andrea Saul comments)
Submitted by Ian56 on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 07:40
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Keep FIGHTING for a brokered convention! Romney is HELPING us with all his screw ups and gaffes. Keep the PRESSURE and heat turned up HIGH on Romney. The more pressure and heat that can be applied the more gaffe's that Romney and his team will make.
Romney is continuing to slide in the polls and questions amongst die-hard GOP are starting to be asked about Romney's nomination in Tampa.
There is a Twitter FireStorm currently raging over this and lots of divisions between different GOP people. Search "Andrea Saul"
Never one to miss an opportunity I am trying to stick red hot needles in the cracks that are appearing. Going for ex Santorum and Gingrich supporters mostly. And generally with Andrea Saul in the post.
Video links for this story (via the_chiefe71)
Using Romney Care to Defend Bain Record Suggests No Obama Care Repeal? - YouTube
Romney Spox: If Only Fired Employee Had 'Romneycare' - YouTube
It should have a very easy task to discredit Obama's angle, but Andrea Saul wasn't up to it. She repeated the blatant lie that Romney left Bain in 1999. She plainly does not know her a** from her elbow.
Ann Coulter Demands Andrea Saul Be Fired Or Conservatives Should Boycott Donating to Romney. Some interesting comments in this article.
If you read RedState, and some of the conservative rags, the rage against Romney is so lively I wonder if some conservatives haven't made the conscious choice that Romney is their equivalent of John Edwards, whose campaign will implode with scandal over taxes, Bain, and perhaps, even other stuff we haven't heard yet, so figure it is better to take him out before the convention, to avoid a total disaster for the GOP in November.
Even though most of us have scoffed at the GOP convention replacement scenarios (even though I wrote one up as a thought starter three months ago,) is it possible hard core Republicans figure sticking with Romney all the way through November after a convention lock in could be worse?
8:31 PM PT: A comment by Nailbanger prompted this question which could become quite a bit more significant if true. From my response to to nailbanger below.
Could it
.. be possible that hard core conservatives realize that Romney is going to lose, or maybe even become the "John Edwards of the GOP" so it is better for them to cut their losses, now to preserve their own "credibility."Like it would be better for their long-term reputations if they go down in history as the folks who took down Romney from the inside, rather than let it look like Democrats did it in a November landslide election that we will then use as evidence of public "repudiation" of their right-wing zealotry.
Dramatically, and publicly turning on Romney now could portray Romney as "the loser" rather than "right-wing zealotry" with would otherwise take the hit in November.
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Obama now leads Romney by 11 among independents in new CNN and Fox News polls
posted at 8:01 pm on August 9, 2012 by Allahpundit
Don’t focus on the topline numbers since it’s hard to gauge how reliable they are. The Fox poll has O leading 49/40 based on a sample of D+9; last month he led 45/41 with a sample of just D+4. As for CNN, they’ve got Obama up 52/45 but provide no partisan breakdown with which to judge the sample.
What to do, then? Let’s focus on the indies. CNN:
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The margin of error increases for a subsample, as you can see, but that’s a lot of cushion for the Unicorn Prince. No mystery where it’s coming from, either: According to CNN, 52 percent of indies have an unfavorable view of Romney now compared to just 40 percent who had one in May. Fox sees a similar overall margin:
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Lots of undecideds there, obviously, but the trendlines in Romney’s favorables aren’t encouraging after a solid month of Bain-mania. CNN’s and Fox’s numbers, respectively:
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Amazingly, The One’s not paying much of a price yet for negativity. When asked if Romney has attacked Obama unfairly, the response is 44/50 between “has” and “has not.” Obama’s numbers are almost identical at 45/49, suggesting that perceptions on this question are still breaking along predictable party lines. Maybe that’ll change in the next week or two; this poll was conducted over the last few days, before the sleaze-tastic steelworker ad really started buzzing.
I don’t like the looks of either of these numbers, though:
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Of the last four elections, only Clinton in 1996 had more lopsided numbers on that last question. (On the other hand, by a margin of 52/37, voters expected Gore to defeat Bush as of mid-September 2000.) Here’s the key question: Given that Romney and the constellation of conservative Super PACs have yet to really unload on O, there’s obviously going to be some movement in his numbers down the line just as there’s been movement in Romney’s numbers now after the Bain attacks. But how much? The two sides aren’t similarly situated; Romney’s an unknown quantity for most while Obama’s been the most famous man on the planet for four years. Not only does that make it harder for the GOP to define him than it was for him to define Mitt, but it gives O a much simpler task with regard to the shrinking pool of undecideds. Those people are already wary of reelecting him (that’s why they’re undecided), so they’re essentially Romney persuadables. Romney needs to persuade them, but all Obama needs to do is keep Romney on the defensive and keep the campaign dumb and nasty so that those persuadables stop caring and stay home.
It’s incredibly cynical but it’s his best bet. If you believe these two polls, it’s working okay so far.
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Romney spokesman on steelworker ad: In Massachusetts, he would have been covered under RomneyCare
posted at 4:59 pm on August 8, 2012 by Allahpundit
Via Mediaite, the key bit comes at 1:25. Are we sufficiently close to the election yet that we’re obliged to give Team Mitt a pass on this purely in the interest of defeating Obama, or is there still time left to wrist-slap him for touting a deeply problematic statist health-care expansion? (It’s not just his spokesman who alluded to RomneyCare this morning but, according to Reuters, Romney himself.) If the answer is the former then I’m not optimistic about holding his feet to the fire from the right once he’s elected. The Democrats have formidable challengers lined up for 2016 in Hillary and Andrew Cuomo, if they’re willing. You don’t really want to weaken President Mitt by criticizing him for moving to the center when he’s facing a brutal struggle for reelection, do you?
It’s not a big deal in the full context of the campaign but, like Erick Erickson says, any hint of backsliding by Romney is noteworthy:
[T]he Romney campaign decided to sabotage itself with a mind numbingly bit of spin that may mark the day the Romney campaign died…If I were an Obama advisor, I’d be looking at Saul’s comment as an escape hatch from the rolling clusterfark that is the steelworker ad. It’s a twofer. On the one hand, it lets them grind Romney’s face in the one policy “accomplishment” more than any other that irritates his base, and on the other, it gives them an excuse to tout ObamaCare as a solution to situations like Soptic’s. I’d be surprised if O’s Super PAC isn’t working up a new ad about it already, assuming they’re not backlogged with spots accusing Romney of causing cancer or whatever.
Conservatives have put aside their distrust of Romney on this issue in the name of beating Barack Obama. They thought he and his campaign team had gotten the message and the hints. Consider the scab picked, the wound opened, and the distrust trickling out again.
About the only thing more stupid in terms of building bridges with the right would be to say something nice about fetal stem cell research.
Start your watches for that one!
Exit quotation from stalwart RomneyCare skeptic Philip Klein, trying to imagine future Romney talking points in this vein: “Well, in Massachusetts, the rich pay a lot of taxes.”
Update: More from Klein:
It’s hard to say what type of political ramifications this specific development will have, but I do think it’s an example of a broader problem. Romney consistently attempts to make up with tactics what he lacks in vision. Romney’s campaign isn’t driven by any core ideology or governing philosophy, but by responding to news cycles. It is a campaign that was perhaps best summed up by senior advisor Eric Fehrnstrom, when he proudly tweeted yesterday, “On Fox just now Romney was asked to respond to ‘RomneyHood’ charge and called it ‘Obamaloney.’”
Conservatives, rest assured – Romney will not allow himself to be called a childish nickname without responding by calling Obama a childish nickname.
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