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    SPIN , SPIN, SPIN.

    A reply from Coleman:
    dated 10/26/07

    Thank you for taking the time to contact me concerning the Development,
    Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act of 2007 (S. 2205),
    introduced by Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL).

    On October 24, 2007, I supported a procedural motion to allow the Senate
    to debate the DREAM Act. This was not a vote for the bill. I would not
    have supported the Durbin bill without significant amendments. Among
    the provisions I opposed were: it would put alien minors on an
    expedited path to citizenship ahead of other meritorious individuals; it
    contains no application deadline and would allow persons to register for
    its benefits decades from now; and its confidentiality provisions are
    too restrictive in terms of not allowing the Department of Homeland
    Security to use the information on a person's application for
    appropriate enforcement actions.

    I voted for cloture on the motion to proceed to this legislation after
    receiving assurances from Senator Durbin in a colloquy on the floor with
    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) that he would work with Senators to
    remedy these key weaknesses through the amendment process. Had we been
    unable to improve the bill, I would have opposed it in a subsequent
    cloture motion. In fact, that was my philosophy on the comprehensive
    immigration legislation we debated earlier this year. In that instance
    I voted to allow the Senate to debate the bill, but once it became clear
    that its flaws could not be fixed, I opposed cloture and the bill
    failed.

    There are some elements of the DREAM Act which I support. I would like
    to see a path that allows illegal alien children of good moral character
    to legally study, work and serve in the military in this country without
    jumping ahead of others in the line for citizenship. I don't think we
    should punish children for the actions of their parents. Many of these
    children came here illegally , through no fault of their own. They have
    grown up here and this is the only country they know. Also, because of
    its provisions related to military service, senior Defense Department
    officials have supported the DREAM Act as a way of meeting recruitment
    goals.

    In closing, my vote to allow this bill to be debated is consistent with
    how I view my job as U.S. Senator : not to avoid debate on the tough
    issues, but to try to find solutions and common ground. I voted to move
    ahead with this bill and fix its flaws - but if my concerns weren't
    addressed, I would have voted no at a later time. At any rate, the
    motion to proceed failed to receive the necessary 60 votes, and the
    DREAM Act was withdrawn from the Senate floor.

    Thank you once again for your attention on this matter. I appreciate
    hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to contact me on any
    issue of concern to you.

    Sincerely,
    Norm Coleman
    United States Senate
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    Thank you once again for your attention on this matter. I appreciate
    hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to contact me on any
    issue of concern to you.
    All the politicians say the above.. A more fitting message would be:

    Thanks for voting me into office, so I can do what I want ,when I want on what benefits me the most .I do not give a damn what the American people need or want. Please don't bother to contact me unless you are in agreement with me on the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April
    Thank you once again for your attention on this matter. I appreciate
    hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to contact me on any
    issue of concern to you.
    All the politicians say the above.. A more fitting message would be:

    Thanks for voting me into office, so I can do what I want ,when I want on what benefits me the most .I do not give a damn what the American people need or want. Please don't bother to contact me unless you are in agreement with me on the issues.
    Well said!! and so true!
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    John McCain through the eyes of a Dreamer

    http://www.cosaonline.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7726

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    But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
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    Sorry everyone, been busy taking care of lots of small things and getting bogged down with everything going on lately...

    Anyway, thanks for working on the follow up. You'll be glad (? - well, maybe....) to learn that I've been compiling vote/history info on all the candidates, with a lot of attention paid to the most recent DA vote, which we can use in the next go round with AgJobs. So,... *I think* we'll be about as ready as we can be.

    I'll be sending a few follow ups as well - now that I've basically caught up with everything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhredE
    Sorry everyone, been busy taking care of lots of small things and getting bogged down with everything going on lately...

    Anyway, thanks for working on the follow up. You'll be glad (? - well, maybe....) to learn that I've been compiling vote/history info on all the candidates, with a lot of attention paid to the most recent DA vote, which we can use in the next go round with AgJobs. So,... *I think* we'll be about as ready as we can be.

    I'll be sending a few follow ups as well - now that I've basically caught up with everything...
    Thats great Phrede, thanks!

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    the Dreamer's are currently working on a proposal of their own and want it submitted before the end of the year. The sense of entitlement they seem to demand baffles me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjsokay
    the Dreamer's are currently working on a proposal of their own and want it submitted before the end of the year. The sense of entitlement they seem to demand baffles me.
    I KNOW! WHAT THE HECK ARE THEY THINKING?
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    One thing I did not understand about the Dream Act is those student that have not been here 5 years but are in school, would this provide a progressive amnesty for them when next year when they would be here 5 years and on and on year after year? or is this a one shot thing?

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    It would have been the gift that kept giving, and giving, and giving, and giving............................................ .............................

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