Thread: ALIPAC issues clarification on 9/12 and Glenn Beck

Originally Posted by jinky

Whenever I have heard reference to the Tea Party Express and the 9/12 March I have heard Dick Armeys name interjected into it. Whether anyone believes or admits that he is one of the leaders, it is perceived that he is the leader.

Yes, and you have been listening to the Tea Party opposition and the mainstream media.

The groups that have firm opposition to the legal immigration cause, as well as the Tea Parties, and 9/12, have focused intently on Dick Armey.

Almost exclusively, I might add.

Originally Posted by navigeur

Originally Posted by jinky

Whenever I have heard reference to the Tea Party Express and the 9/12 March I have heard Dick Armeys name interjected into it. Whether anyone believes or admits that he is one of the leaders, it is perceived that he is the leader.

Yes, and you have been listening to the Tea Party opposition and the mainstream media.

The groups that have firm opposition to the legal immigration cause, as well as the Tea Parties, and 9/12, have focused intently on Dick Armey.

Almost exclusively, I might add.

Ummmm, no. I don't watch MSM. This was on FNC.

Perhaps one has to be "outside the box", so to speak, to really see this.

That works both ways, and probably the only reason I'm bringing this up

(After W's last note I was going to let it go).

I don't know any group that is "in charge", or has "taken charge".

Suggestion.

When you get to Washington watch very closely to see who gets the best speach times, the biggest introductions, etc. and seems to take charge or be incharge there. And then please report back here for those of us who can't make it to Washington. I would really appreciate a report from several different people who attend so that we can get several different viewpoints. I hope everything works out well for those of you who have invested your time and money in the Washinton trip.

Originally Posted by jinky

Originally Posted by navigeur

Originally Posted by jinky

Whenever I have heard reference to the Tea Party Express and the 9/12 March I have heard Dick Armeys name interjected into it. Whether anyone believes or admits that he is one of the leaders, it is perceived that he is the leader.

Yes, and you have been listening to the Tea Party opposition and the mainstream media.

The groups that have firm opposition to the legal immigration cause, as well as the Tea Parties, and 9/12, have focused intently on Dick Armey.

Almost exclusively, I might add.

Ummmm, no. I don't watch MSM. This was on FNC.

I didn't realize that Fox News Channel wasn't part of main-stream media.

Perhaps we can chalk that up to semantics. Perhaps not the "classic" main-stream media.

Fox, as I indicated, used to be at the "forefront", leading many to believe the Tea Parties were partisan, Republican only, grass-roots organizations. Any relationship with FOX, and there were many, were used to denigrate the movement as being partisan, right wing, and much worse. I did see a Fox News truck at one, but they have seemed to back off.

I don't watch TV, so my TV vision is limited, in this regard.

Remember, I said in my experience.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Perhaps one has to be "outside the box", so to speak, to really see this.

That works both ways, and probably the only reason I'm bringing this up

(After W's last note I was going to let it go).

I don't know any group that is "in charge", or has "taken charge".

Suggestion.

When you get to Washington watch very closely to see who gets the best speach times, the biggest introductions, etc. and seems to take charge or be incharge there. And then please report back here for those of us who can't make it to Washington. I would really appreciate a report from several different people who attend so that we can get several different viewpoints. I hope everything works out well for those of you who have invested your time and money in the Washinton trip.

Here is the weekend speaking list on the 912dc site:

http://912dc.org/agenda/

Originally Posted by jinky

Originally Posted by navigeur

Originally Posted by jinky

Whenever I have heard reference to the Tea Party Express and the 9/12 March I have heard Dick Armeys name interjected into it. Whether anyone believes or admits that he is one of the leaders, it is perceived that he is the leader.

Yes, and you have been listening to the Tea Party opposition and the mainstream media.

The groups that have firm opposition to the legal immigration cause, as well as the Tea Parties, and 9/12, have focused intently on Dick Armey.

Almost exclusively, I might add.

Ummmm, no. I don't watch MSM. This was on FNC.

When you heard reference to Dick Armey at Fox News channel was it positive or negative, or just as a matter of fact that his name was interjected as, perhaps, a leader, leading to that perception?

To clarify what I meant concerning the opposition, mention of Dick Armey and Freedom Works was intensely negative, and a focus, or a "forefront".

THANKS.

Let's put it out there for everyone.

.Agenda
(tentative – last updated 08/31/09)

We will be putting together the details of the week’s events soon. For now, this is our tentative agenda for 9-10 through 9-12. This is the most up to date, and accurate place for information on the web.

Thursday, 9-10
9:00am to 12:00pm Liberty Summit at DC Armory (REGISTER NOW!)
1:00pm: Press Conference on Capitol Hill (REGISTER NOW!)
1:30pm to 5:30pm: Grassroots lobbying visits on Capitol Hill
5:30pm Doctors Rally Against Socialized Medicine (REGISTER NOW!)

Friday, 9-11
9:00am Leadership Institute: Internet Activist Workshop (Agenda and Registration)
10:00am – 5:00pm ParentalRights.org Lobbyist and Activism Training Seminars (Agenda and Registration)
12:00pm to 4:00pm CEI/ARC Intellectual Ammunition Workshop (REGISTER)
1:00pm Leadership Institute: Grassroots On the Ground Workshop (Agenda and Registration)
2:00pm to 5:30pm Grassroots lobbying visits on Capitol Hill
4:00pm Bureaucrash Happy Hour at Bullfeathers (space limited to 100)
5:00 pm Leadership Institute: Grassroots on the Hill Workshop (Agenda and Registration)
6:30pm to 10:00pm Remember 911 and support the troops at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. (see the map)
8:00am – 11:00pm Sign-Making at the Hyatt Regency on Capitol Hill
(400 New Jersey Avenue, NW) Congressional Room B

Saturday, 9-12
9:00am Crowd gathers at Freedom Plaza
11:30am March on the Capitol Begins down Pennsylvania Ave. (See Map)
1:00pm March ends and Rally Begins at West Front of the U.S. Capitol

Click here to register for the March on Washington!

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR SATURDAY’S RALLY:

Dick Armey - FreedomWorks
Matt Kibbe – FreedomWorks
Mason Weaver, San Diego, CA
John Tate, Campaign for Liberty
Rep. Marsha Blackburn (TN)
Jenny Beth Martin, Tea Party Patriots
Darla Dawald, Resistnet.com
Brendan Steinhauser, FreedomWorks
Steve Elliot, Grassfire
Kellen Giuda, Founder of Parcbench.com and the New York City Tea Party
Deneen Borelli, The National Center for Public Policy Research/Project 21
Andrew Langer, Institute for Liberty
Stephen Baldwin and Kevin McCollough, X-Treme Radio
Yaron Brook, Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights
Lloyd Marcus, Tea Party Express
Rev. CL Bryant, Shreveport, Louisiana
Joel Aaron, Atlanta, Georgia
Chris Cassone
Phillip Dennis, Dallas, Texas
James Anderer, entrepreneur
Rep. Tom Price (GA)
Doc Thompson, Richmond, Virginia
Mario Lopez, Hispanic Leadership Fund
Toby Marie Walker, Waco, TX
Andrew Moylan, NTU
Kelly Hoag, Austin, TX
Bruce Bellot
Yvonne Donnelly, The 912 Project
Bruce Webster, Denver, CO
Julian Kulski
Hector Barreto, The Latino Coalition
Bob Levy, Cato Institute
Ashleigh Kenny, Georgia
Betsy McCaughey, Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths
Greg Harrell, Ohio
Rep. Joel Winters (NH), Free State Project
Martha Zoller, Georgia
Nicole Darland, Xclusive Xpeditions
Rep. Mike Pence (IN)
Richard Mourdock, Indiana State Treasurer
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC)
William Greene, RightMarch.com

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR FREEDOM PLAZA GATHERING:

Andrew Moylan, National Taxpayers Union
Hi Caliber, Mr. Conservative (music)
Charles Lollar, Maryland
Nic Lott, Mississippi
Diana Reimer, Pennsylvania Tea Party Patriots
Phillip Dennis, Dallas Tea Party Patriots
Tom Gaitens, Florida
Debbie Dooley, Georgia
Lee Doren, Bureaucrash
Everett Wilkinson, Florida Tea Party Patriots
Angela McGlowan
John O’Hara, Heartland Institute
Toby Walker, Waco Tea Party Patriots
Robin Stublen, Florida
Judy Pepenella, New York
Matt Kibbe, FreedomWorks
Brendan Steinhauser, FreedomWorks
Brian Williams, National Center for Policy Analysis
Sally Oljar, Seattle

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR THURSDAY’S DOCTORS RALLY:

Rep. Phil Gingrey (GA)
Rep. Tom Price (GA)

http://912dc.org/agenda/

My point being that it seems the Tea Party movement is getting hijacked by those with fame, as respected speakers in DC.
I think ALIPAC's major point here is that those with the most time on TV are not necessarily as supportive of any grassroots efforts, unless they can use it to further themselves and their careers. And we all better examine every piece of info we can find, so TEA does not end up in the sewer when the super-liberals get after them to a much larger extent than they already have tried.

I did notice that Dick Armey's name was first on the list of speakers even though they aren't in alphabetical order.

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR SATURDAY’S RALLY:

Dick Armey - FreedomWorks

It will be important to note who speaks at the press conferences and who does the news program interviews.

Here's the Tea Party Express delegation, for anyone interested.

http://www.teapartyexpress.org/about/index.html