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    Quote Originally Posted by tinybobidaho
    It's not even about the Dream Act or the AgJobs Bill. It's just a way for some politicians to grant amnesty to illegal aliens so they have more voters at election time. Do you really believe that our elected officials care about fruit rotting on the vine? They don't even care about the 25 American lives we lose everyday to the unlicensed drunk drivers and crimes of illegal aliens.
    thats a nifty little statistic. how many die every day from licensed ones? since the people without licences arent going everywhere, how about giving them the ability to get their license (and a driving test) legaly?

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    the people they are looking to help actually deserve to be helped, if not for their sake than for yours, because you benefit from their progress as well.
    ...please elaborate and state your arguement that supports your hypothesis:

    1.) the people they are looking to help actually deserve to be helped, if not for their sake than for yours

    2.) you benefit from their progress as well

    ...because I firmly take a contrary stance to these unsupported statements. If they're not merely your viewpoints, then put forth logical, statistically supported and unemotional arguements on their behalf. Back to you, author georgian
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    There are billions of Poor starving kids all over the world, how many do you suggest we take in?
    When are jobs are gone how will we be able to help the poor?
    We must help the rest of the world through aid to their own country.
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    Georgian, I realize you feel sorry for the children of illegal immigrants, but we have plenty of under privileged American children who need assistance first. When illegal aliens bring their children to this country, they have not only broken the law for themselves, they have done so for their children. Their children are their responsibility, not America's. And if you do some research, you'll find we already allow over 1 million ag workers legally every year. The problem is, they don't stay at those jobs, they move on to take the good jobs from Americans, then more come to take their place. It's never ending.
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    I can not stand Feinstein!! she makes me sick and so does her side kick Craig!!
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    Its not FAIR to invade another country. Give taxpayer dollars for education, medical, etc. to illegal aliens. If you don't think so, maybe you should be the first to give all that you have to help an illegal alien in their home country. If you want facts, you can find plenty on this site. You are more than welcome to look around.
    If a child has a problem that was brought here when they were small...then they need to see their parents, WHO ARE THE PROBLEM!....not Americans!
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    I hope they THROW Fienstein out of OFFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    the people they are looking to help actually deserve to be helped, if not for their sake than for yours, because you benefit from their progress as well.
    ...please elaborate and state your arguement that supports your hypothesis:

    1.) the people they are looking to help actually deserve to be helped, if not for their sake than for yours

    2.) you benefit from their progress as well

    ...because I firmly take a contrary stance to these unsupported statements. If they're not merely your viewpoints, then put forth logical, statistically supported and unemotional arguements on their behalf. Back to you, author georgian
    Gladly. Dream act candidates are kids raised in this country from a very early age, and indoctrinated in the United States school system and moral philosophy of achievement based on effort. They have no criminal records, and are willing to pursue higher education and/ or serve our military for our mutual safety. Those that are educated will take a variety of jobs, including those most favorable to us as a progressive society, including medicine, social work etc. Regardless, they will all earn and pay taxes. AgJobs candidates serve a role that most Americans are unwilling to take- one defined by difficult labor.

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    Just to remind everyone... don't forget about Lou/ La Raza right now.
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    Gladly. Dream act candidates are kids raised in this country from a very early age, and indoctrinated in the United States school system and moral philosophy of achievement based on effort. They have no criminal records, and are willing to pursue higher education and/ or serve our military for our mutual safety. Those that are educated will take a variety of jobs, including those most favorable to us as a progressive society, including medicine, social work etc. Regardless, they will all earn and pay taxes. AgJobs candidates serve a role that most Americans are unwilling to take- one defined by difficult labor.
    I wonder if this is the teacher or the lawyer :P
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