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    ALIPAC Response to Complaints about Presidential Campaigns

    Friends of ALIPAC,


    This message is being crafted to address the concerns and complaints we are receiving from people who do not like our Draft Lou Dobbs for President website.

    RESPONSE TO CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAFT DOBBS WEBSITE

    First, let us remind everyone that the decision to launch the site was made with full prior consultation with our supporters. We have over 25,000 supporters nationally. We gave everyone a chance to weigh in and a sample of 10% of our supporters chose to participate in the survey. In the survey, 84% responded they liked the idea of a potential Lou Dobbs run.

    In response to the question, "Would I support CNN Anchor Lou Dobbs for President"? 70.19% said, "Yes, immediately" and another 14.05% said, "Yes, but only if my candidate loses the primary". From our prior survey, we know that 90% of the 14.05% are committed to other campaigns for the Primaries and are supporting Hunter, Paul, Thompson, or Romney.

    These online surveys are available for you to view and you can still vote, if you like at these links....

    Dobbs Support Survey
    http://www.alipac.us/survey-results-49-thread--0.html

    Presidential Candidate Survey
    http://www.alipac.us/survey-results-47-thread-1-0.html

    Clearly, this decision was made to offer the Draft Lou Dobbs site to a super majority of our supporters. From the hundreds of positive comments, that everyone should view, in the Guestbook at www.LouDobbsforPresident.org and from the fact that over $200,000 has been pledged to a potential Dobbs campaign in the first 24 hours proves there is a high interest level.

    RESPONSE TO CONCERNS ABOUT OUR POSITION ON PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS

    We have stated, over five times, that ALIPAC is not endorsing Lou Dobbs or any Presidential candidate. We have stated clearly that our goal is to help the public identify which candidates are supporting Amnesty for illegal aliens. The current list of pro-amnesty candidates are all the Democrats and the GOP campaigns of John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, and Mike Huckabee.

    While the Democrats are being open about their pro-amnesty positions, the three Republicans are going to great lengths to conceal their true immigration stances.

    While most of the e-mails we receive are polite and professional, we also receive constant e-mail contacts, many of which are hostile and accusatory, telling us we should endorse a particular candidate.


    Ron Paul

    While we have received such e-mails for most of the candidates, we must honestly state that the majority of e-mails (over half) containing threats to withdraw support or contain accusatory or hostile language are coming from self-described Ron Paul supporters.

    While these e-mails are not representative of the Ron Paul campaign, nor the majority of Ron Paul supporters, we do need to point out that such aggressive behavior can hurt a candidate and citizens supporting any candidate should be very thoughtful about how they express themselves, as not to alienate potential supporters.

    The video interview we did with Ron Paul has not been edited to mislead people or distort Ron Paul's positions in any fashion. The video was micro-edited because it was too long and I was very tired, as was Ron Paul, and some of the content needed to be removed.

    We understand that the Ron Paul campaign is facing a lot of censorship and political dirty tricks and it is good that supporters are on guard. However, there is no "conspiracy" going on at ALIPAC regarding Ron Paul and frankly we find some of the unfounded and unwarranted accusations to be outlandish.

    To illustrate this point, we will now archive all e-mails we receive of this nature beneath this post on the ALIPAC website.

    Website copy post
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99067.html

    This post will now serve as our standard response to the e-mail complaints that we receive about ALIPAC's position on the Presidential campaigns and the Draft Lou Dobbs effort.

    Our efforts to expose the Democrats and McCain, Huckabee, and Giuliani are helpful to the campaigns of Thompson, Paul, Hunter, and Romney. Our effort to expose the Democrats and the pro-amnesty Republicans are helpful to a possible independent candidate run.

    Another problem we are having is that many people do not take the time to actually read our e-mail alerts or the supporting material provided before sending us some knee jerk reactionary hostile e-mail.

    The decision not to endorse a particular candidate at this time was made for the following strategic reasons.

    1. ALIPAC must respect the fact that our supporters have made up their own minds about which campaigns they want to support. Aligning with an individual campaign would cost us many supporters. If we were to lose many supporters at this time, ALIPAC would have to reduce or shut down operations and we hope that none of you want that to happen.

    2. ALIPAC is in a position where we have the unfortunate task of exposing certain pro-amnesty candidates. This is a very difficult and challenging task and if we were to align with a rival campaign, it would diminish our credibility in the minds of voters, many of which are reluctant to believe the facts we bring to the table as it is. Many people would write us off claiming that the messages we convey are being made to support the candidate we had endorsed, instead of the truth which is our desire to get accurate information to the public.

    MORE ON DOBBS

    Since this is a long message....

    PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY.

    The Draft Lou Dobbs website at www.LouDobbsforPresident.org

    WILL NOT HAVE ANY NEGATIVE EFFECT ON ANY EXISTING CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT.

    No Lou Dobbs Campaign exists at this time.

    Therefore, no votes or funds can be diverted from the campaign you support to a non-existent Lou Dobbs campaign.

    The emotional e-mails we are receiving from people who are upset and believing the Draft Dobbs site is going to hurt their candidates of choice are not supported by any known campaign dynamics.

    The only candidates that would be harmed by Lou Dobbs actually running for President, would be the Republican and Democratic primary winners. Lou Dobbs is not running at this time and even if he were running, he would not be on any Primary ballots.

    The only way anyone could justify the complaint that "Your efforts to support Lou Dobbs are going to hurt candidate _____" would be if you believed someone spending a few minutes reading or filling out comments or a pledge of support at www.LouDobbsforPresident.org would somehow take away anything more than a few minutes of time from your campaign of choice. Most people would agree that such a concern is minimal.

    The Draft Lou Dobbs website was launched for the following reasons.

    1. We wanted to offer Lou Dobbs supporters a venue where they could express their political free speech in support of Mr. Dobbs.

    2. We want to show Lou Dobbs, ourselves, the media, and the nation what kind of support is or is not out there for a potential Lou Dobbs run.

    3. We want to communicate to both major parties that we will not be forced into a lose-lose situation on Amnesty for illegal aliens without resistance.

    4. We want to prepare for some escape attempt, if American voters find themselves trapped between a Republican and a Democratic winner of the primaries which both support Amnesty for illegal aliens.

    5. To have an existing network of Lou Dobbs supporters in place, in the event pro-Amnesty candidates John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, or Mike Huckabee win the GOP primary, which can help us to either intensify our calls for Dobbs to run or to provide Lou Dobbs with a list of supporters, if it becomes necessary for him to run.

    IN CLOSING

    We want everyone to keep in mind that politics is a contact sport and a form of civilized conflict.

    We want everyone to acknowledge that it is impossible to find any organization, candidate, or leader that you agree with 100% or that you agree with all decisions made.

    We want everyone to treat fellow patriots in this cause with maximum respect and to work for maximum unity during these difficult times because the way forward is not always black and white.

    Let us state clearly that ALIPAC is not receiving any financial support from any Presidential campaign or any influential organizations or political players.

    Our contributors are called "supporters" and even our large donors do not have any kind of undue influence on our decision making process.

    We do our very best to make decisions, in consultation with our supporters, the ALIPAC Board of Directors, and our core activists, that are in the best interest of our cause and our movement.

    Much time and energy is put into our decision making processes and your input and feedback is given the highest level of consideration possible.

    Many of the people helping with our decision making represent average Americans that have become activists, as well as seasoned campaign professionals and organization leaders.

    We are doing the best we can to do and all that we can to fight against illegal immigration, and Amnesty and for secure borders, enforcement of our existing immigration laws, the restoration of our Republic and the Rule of Law.

    We hope that this message answers many of your questions. Feel free to post any questions or concerns here beneath this post.

    We will answer your questions and this will allow others to review responses to increase their knowledge of our operations.

    All future complaint e-mails received by ALIPAC will be directed to this message and posted beneath this message.

    Here
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99067.html

    We truly appreciate your continued support, feedback, and understanding.

    Yours in the cause,


    William Gheen
    President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)
    Post Office Box 30966, Raleigh, NC 27622-0966
    Tel: (919) 787-6009 Toll Free: (866) 329-3999
    FEC ID: C00405878
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    Dear Sir,

    Until you decided to support an
    unqualified candidate for President,
    we respected your work.

    Now you are jeopardizing all that
    hard work and the future of the
    organization you have built
    by showing infinitely poor judgment
    by endorsing Dobbs for President.

    You will destroy your organization
    AND AMERICA by supporting him.
    You surely recognize he is NOT
    prepared to be President of these
    once United States.

    Furthermore, if Dobbs cared about for
    his country and not his ego, he would
    tell you to stop trying to kill the
    chances of the candidate that
    TOM TANCREDO determined would
    help us stop illegal immigration:
    Mitt Romney.

    WE URGE YOU TO DUMP THE
    LOSER DOBBS ENDORSEMENT.

    YOU WILL DISUNIFY THOSE
    OF US WHO ARE AVIDLY AGAINST
    ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

    AND WORSE THAN THAT . . .
    YOUR DOBBS FOLLY,
    UNLESS STOPPED NOW, WILL ASSURE
    HILLARY WINS AND AMNESTY WINS,
    AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE
    TRUSTED YOU WILL GO BYE-BYE.
    SINCE YOU WILL HAVE BETRAYED US.

    PLEASE LISTEN TO TANDREDO.

    UNTIL NOW YOU HAVE DONE WELL,
    PLEASE DO NOT BETRAY US WITH
    THIS LOSER DOBBS INSANITY.

    UNLESS YOU WANT CLINTON,
    EDWARDS, MCCAIN, HUCKABEE,
    OR OSAMA OBAMA TO WIN,
    IT'S NUTS.

    Thank you.

    (NAME REMOVED BY ALIPAC)
    California
    Dear (NAME REMOVED),

    Thank you for letting us know about your concerns. We have prepared the following response to address complaints and concerns on these issues.

    ALIPAC Response to Complaints about Presidential Campaigns
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-588937.html#588937

    We have not joined the Tancredo and Arpio endorsement of Mitt Romney out of respect for our many supporters that are helping other campaigns. This decision was made to maintain maximum unity for ALIPAC and the movement for immigration enforcement.

    We have not endorsed Lou Dobbs or any Presidential campaign and have done our best to make that very clear during this difficult time when pro Amnesty candidates are doing so well in the GOP Primary.

    We are hoping for the best, a win by Paul, Hunter, Thompson, or Romney. While preparing for the worst.

    A website calling for a potential Lou Dobbs run in the future, if a pro amnesty candidates emerge from both major party primaries, will not have any negative effects on existing campaigns.

    Please let me know if the message at the link above does not answer all of your questions.

    Kind Regards,


    William Gheen
    www.alipac.us
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    California Boy:
    You are way off the mark and totally out of control. Save your energy for helping right your leftist socialist state. It is truly remarkable how someone can totally twist up an issue into something its not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    California Boy:
    You are way off the mark and totally out of control. Save your energy for helping right your leftist socialist state. It is truly remarkable how someone can totally twist up an issue into something its not.








    Very nicely said Zeezil!

    This is, in all actuality, no different from how our cause has been twisted into an issue of racism which, I am sure, the sender objects to as much as the rest of us.

    We cannot afford to decry the hypocrisy of the other side of this issue and then engage in the same thing.....just because it is coming from the anti-illegal immigration side of the fence doesn't make any more right.
    If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. T. Paine

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    As a big time Ron Paul supporter, I want to say thank you to William and the team in helping educate America as to the Thomas Jefferson of our day: Ron Paul. I do not have a problem with Lou Dobbs being promoted, though I can not for the life of me imagine how a talking head could run a nation, but be that as it may, Lou is about the only one speaking truth to power about the illegal alien invasion.

    Pull together for America. This is not a drill.

    Restore the Republic.
    Vote Ron Paul.
    "Never suppose that in any possible situation, or under any circumstances, it is best for you to do a dishonorable thing..." --Thomas Jefferson

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    We're all heading toward the same place, right?
    Immigration Enforcement!!!
    Some of us may ride different horses to get there
    but don't shoot up the wagon train.

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    What's all the hollering about?

    I had much rather be given a choice of Ron Paul and Lou Dobbs.
    I simply can not find where Ron misses the mark, but certainly Tancredo lost my support when he voted for the "Home Grown" terrorist act of Bush's, to make it possible to stop us presenting truth on the Internet that otherwise would be hidden. (Designed to shut up Dr. Daneen Peterson, Charlotte Iserbyt, Jerome Corsi, Lou Dobbs, Ron Paul and Patriots like myself as well!) I do not just automatically trust his feelings on Romney either. After all, he is now running for VP and I hope he gets a better campaign staff than the "sleepy" self serving ones he had! I might speak differently if "Draft Ted, Bundy or Kennedy" were to come about!! But this one ....... Dobbs, has not hurt us! But still, Ron Paul has been unwavering and fighting for a just cause for 20 plus years!
    Look how many times Romney has switched in 10 years!! And on McCain, like I told Congressman Thornberry at a meeting one time, I wish McCain would defect completely to the Democratic Party, so we did not have to watch behind our backs so much! That got a good chuckle from my Congressman, which made me think he understood and agreed.
    Take America back! Pray for our troups! Secure Borders

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    GO LOU GO!!!!!!

    "Illegal Immigration" is just that. There are laws in this country that we are supposed to follow. It blows my mind that some people enter this country by violating our laws, and then get upset when someone says something.

    If these people think it is OK to start their relationship with the United States by breaking our laws first, what more can we expect from them?

    In my persnoal experience, these people do not respect us as individuals, or as a culture, and will take advantage of us as they can get away with it. YES, I support Lou Dobbs for president. He is the only public figure with the gumption to do something about these "law breakers".

    America is the great country it is because of the hard work of it's citizens.
    Our systems are set up to help, and support people who put into the system, and to try to ensure that they get something back from it when they need. Not to give thieves a free ride.

    If things are soo bad in your home country, then have a revolution and overthrow your governing body. That is what we had to do.

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    Lou Dobbs for President?

    While I agree with much that Lou Dobbs says, pledging $200,000 to him instead of contributing to, say, Ron Paul, hurts a bonafide candidate and gives it to a speculative candidate. That is why some of Paul's supporters are upset.


    ALIPAC RESPONSE: ALIPAC is NOT pledging $200,000 to Lou Dobbs. The over $400,000 pledged is from individual donors that are free to make up their own minds who they will or will not support. It is not within ALIPAC's power to pledge or deliver such large sums of money as your post suggests. No money is being taken from anyone or given to anyone over another candidate. Most Americans understand that as it is made very clear AGAIN, and AGAIN, and AGAIN, in our messages and the post above.

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    Mr. Gheen
    Way to put things in their proper perspectives! Thank you

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