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We approve mas departations,Attrition through enforcement. the Majority de Americans choose, attrition through enforcement,Which would gradually reduce illegal inmigration over time and encourange illegal who are already here to their home countries and get right with the law.e[/b]
I see a few new members here so Welcome to ALIPAC!
Dixie
Welcome to Alipac calcrusader and eddiechicago
Every time these goofy Politicians do crazy stuff.. we get bigger
Over the next couple of months i look for a bunch more people to jump on board
Excellent piece of writing. I respect alipac's peaceful mission to resolve immigration issues. I will not my limit myself at this time to working within the system.
You are dead on on the health of American government and for that reason it has become the enemy of the people it serves. It is time to formulate plans within our communities to carry on with or without the federal government.
Give me liberty or give me death.
Hey Jrhino, I've been looking for someone to make me the very picture you have as an avatar. Could you PM me a larger rendition & allow me to pass it around. I'll send it with any byline you like.
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Originally Posted by calcrusader
Welcome to alipac calcrusader and Reuben. Glad to have you with us.
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Well, CA is in deep stuff. Fox News talked about the financial crisis we are in and mentioned that if they stopped the money going to educations for illegals that would fix a lot. They talked about wealthy residents moving from the state and taking their tax revenues with them, like Tiger Woods. YA, what was your first clue. BUT the CA legislature is being threatened to be called into session even over Christmas if they don't pass the budget. They just keep spending. People are leaving CA they've had it.
Let the uneducated pay for it. Anyone with money and brain is leaving if they can.
Thank you to the new members. Our nation appears to be in free fall, as we are on a daily changing, unchartered course which threatens our existence from many elements and situations. We need to be informed and we need to inform others.
While we may expect some devastating changes under the new Administration, every day is a day we can use to educate the public to help stave off the attempts to destroy us from within. With articles and emails such as this recent one by William that highlighst the dangers that the United States faces, apathy can change to action.
Don't let the time be wasted and be involved. Doing nothing gives strength to the opposition. They are not sitting idle and their voices are loud.
Luke 2 - "Unto us is born, in the City of David, a Saviour Christ Jesus."
Good to see the newbies who have found us and welcome.
These are indeed very unsettling times in so many ways, the more people try to make their voices heard the stronger we become.
As of now, General Motors pays more people who no longer work there than those who do. Unions are parasitic entities that eventually kill the host company. These unions have bled the industry dry as they sought more & more for themselves. Well, they've taken all there is.
As America's practically only remaining manufacturing industry it would certainly seem to be worth saving. I would only be in favor of it if they agreed to do whatever is necessary to desolve ALL their unions & agreements with them. This should go for any industry infected with unions, especially education & other government bureuocracies.
Ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimpasz
You picked the right place to come start your activism hat on. I have learned so much here at alipac and used what I learned in my own area.
Hey, Fedupinwaukegan:
How's Ill, holding up with all of it's recent "Special Events"?LOL :D :D
Thank you again to all of you that helped to distribute this article across the web.
This morning, I checked the statistics and wow did this article gather interest.
At the time of this post, the article "Dictatorship USA: The American Sky Has Fallen" appears on 585 websites according to Google.
Yahoo is showing article matches on 2,610 websites!
Here at ALIPAC alone, the article has been read over 20,000 times so far and is likely to push into our top 15 all time articles eventually.
You can see, using the Top 10 feature in the main menu in your left column, a new article has to exceed 22,000 reads to enter our top 15 now.
All of the existing top 15 articles have been on the web for many months, if not years, reaching the point they are at and this new article has almost entered their ranks after being out for less than four days.
W
Does the pay for people no longer there, mean retirees from the company or are you talking upper management?Quote:
"BobbyXD9"]As of now, General Motors pays more people who no longer work there than those who do. Unions are parasitic entities that eventually kill the host company. These unions have bled the industry dry as they sought more & more for themselves. Well, they've taken all there is.
So what's the point of all this bitc*ing, if no one is ready to do anything about it? Or allowed to. My experience here was like that. When I tried to organize people to help try impeaching Bush, I was told that I shouldn't do that because it's not productive to organize something here if Alipac doesn't support it. And at the time William didn't support impeaching Bush.
Now William is certainly free to run his group any way he wants, but it's kinda disapointing that the organization here is so top-heavy, and members are only allowed to complain and wait for the leader to suggest when to call Congress.
This group did some good work in the past, stopping many Amnesty bills, but with Obama in White house and Democrat-controlled Congress, I'm afraid calling your Reps in the future to stop Amnesty bills, just WON'T DO.
So waiting for the next Amnesty bill before you call your Rep, is kinda like waiting for your execution. It'll take a bit more to stop that, like getting out of the house to do some demonstrating, and the time to start is NOW.
I don't think so. One of the reasons is that without a government, all that's left is anarchy. Governments are like everything else; some are good and some bad. And generally, people get the government they deserve. If the majority is spoiled, materialistic or ignorant, they'll get a bad government.Quote:
Originally Posted by WorriedAmerican
But if a minority is willing to fight for their rights, like some did in 1776, they get a BETTER government, even though the majority is ignorant.
Socal,
Everyone may not always appreciate or support our strategies 100%, but as you mentioned we have been very successful in the past. We plan to continue that success.
Timing is very important and there are many call campaigns launched here on the boards by individual activists. Those are happening about every other day so your claim we only call Congress when the full ALIPAC organization moves is not accurate.
If you have some legitimate constructive criticism, that is fine. But if you are just looking to bash me or ALIPAC here that is not helpful.
We are not conducting major call programs right now for the following strategic reasons.
1. Calls, emails, and faxes during the Holiday season would have very diminished effects.
2. Our opposition is energized right now and has plans that involve timeing and it would be poltical suicide for us to move at the wrong time.
3. Our people are tired and need to recharge their spirits. In case you did not notice, ALIPACers were working hard across the nation donating and volunteering and organizing behind the campaigns a little over 30 days ago after completing multiple successful state campaigns across the nation.
4. You can't have your supporters on perpetual high alert without reducing their energy when you really need it.
I'm sorry that you feel more was not done to impeach Bush, but I will also remind you that ALIPAC was the only major organization in the movement that openly called for investigations of the Bush administration on these matters.
Internal polling was done to see where our supporters were on impeachment. Many here on the boards did not share your enthusiasm for impeachment and the people that post here are only a small component of our support base.
So if you feel your great wisdom and leadership would have resulted in a better outcome for our cause if only other people like me had followed your advice and did not, then I look forward to hearing about the launch of your own organization where you can do as you please and lead us all to victory. As long as your methods are non violent and non racist, we will support you all the way.
W
Mr. Gheen... you stated to one of your posters. "As long as your methods are non violent and non racist, we will support you all the way."
Certainly, the British considered the American Revolutionaries, not only as irritants but as traitors and terrorists. If the American Revolutionaries, you know, our Founding Father Terrorists had followed your wisdom, strategy and tactics with respect to violence, would the road to and eventual victory at Yorktown have ever been acheived? Of course not.
So, Mr. Gheen, while no one is advocating violence at this time, things are just hunky doory, at what point would you conceive of such a course of action? When they come to take you to your assigned fema camp? And was the 2nd Amendment then conceived for duck and deer hunters? [/b]
Amen, what an exciting time to be an Illinoisan. Obama, Blago... SNL made fun of Blagovich -yowza.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkfarnam
Our local sheriff -who applied for 287g- announced yesterday he is switching to the republican party. Also, a member of the county board announced yesterday that he is going from democrat to independent.
I almost hope they do have a special election as a prime republican candidate, Mark Kirk is thinking of running for the senator spot -and he has a good immigration record for our side.
Could Illinois slowly but surely be shedding it's sanctuary status?
(phhffftttt, maybe not in my lifetime)
Lonestarguy,Quote:
Originally Posted by lonestarguy
ALIPAC is a political group with political goals. We are a certain tool for a certain job. Our job is to work closely with elected officials, candidates, and on legislation.
There are many groups out there that are advocating measures the go beyond the realm of politics. We do not associate with them as that would destroy ALIPAC's abilities to work with the media, Congress, candidates, etc...
Our goal is to diffuse the current situation by doing all we can to seek a peaceful and political solution that puts American citizens back in charge of our country.
To consider or advocate anything outside of the realm of politics would be to destroy ALIPAC's ability to have any chance at accomplishing our core mission.
That is why we have zero tolerance for any violent language on our site and we do not allow gun talk or avatars.
I have said many times that we should all support gun rights because of the affect private gun ownership has on the power relationship between American citizens and the government.
My life is dedicated to doing all in my power to avoid that power relationship from every being tested again as long as the results put the people of America back in power.
Should we fail at our peaceful political mission, more extreme elements will begin to dominate this national discussion and my job will be over.
Our weapon is truth and our shield is faith. We must be as sheep that walk into the midst of wolves for our only real strengths and real protections come from the armor of God.
W
Speaking of bashing ALIPAC. There's another website, which has been posted here and there are several Alipacers registered there(including myself) fighting this guy that claims to be an Immigration Lawyer.
William and all of us are being call "Gheenies Wheenies"http://bestsmileys.com/lol/12.gif
That insult might actually have hurt my feelings in the 7th grade. Was it a 7th grader that made the insult or was it one of the open borders pro amnesty clowns that would harm our nation with their 7th grade emotional level as a an adult?Quote:
Originally Posted by mkfarnam
:D
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WilliamQuote:
Originally Posted by ALIPAC
The Lawyer Dave Bennion, is an OBL, illegal loven anti-American. He hosts the site. he can be found on forums that are for illegal immigration.
immigration(dot)change.org/
The one calling us Gheenies Wheenies is an obssessed illegal lover, anti-American and the crap he posts makes him sound like a 7th grader.
And then he claims to be an educated US Veteran.
user name: "Porter Corn"
http://www.change(dot)org/ideas/view/enforce_our_immigration_laws
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William,
I respect your opinion, but my main point was that we might need to go beyond just emails and calling our Reps, and organize some demonstrations and rallies. With Obama in White house, it'll be much harder to stop Amnesty with only calls and emails.
I've also suggested in another thread to start a Day Without a Patriot, and time it close to Obama's coronation on Jan. 21. That seems like something that could bring a lot of publicity to our cause and new people involved. I posted it here:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-140729.html
We also could schedule some anti-illegal rallies for that day and make a real event out of that. I mean, an opportunity like that doesn't come around very often. The TV media will be buzzing at that time, and an anti-Obama event like that would be hard for them not to cover. Why pass an oportunity like that to promote our cause?
Socal,
We have gone far beyond e-mails, faxes, letters, and calls. Remember when we hit 1 million households with automated calls in key states during the Amnesty battle? Remember when we flooded DC offices with 'Late Great USA' by Jerome Corsi? Remember when I went to DC short notice to intercept certain politicians? Remember when we led our allies into putting people directly in US Senate offices to await the cloture votes on the amnesty bills? Remember when we spoke at a rally over over 1,000 people outside of the White House last year during these battles? Remember when we mounted the air waves on hundreds of talk radio shows, CNN, Fox, MSNBC etc? Remember when last month when we were building up our contacts in DC and access to lawmakers as candidates? Remember when this past year we helped pass state laws that enforce immigration law making an Amnesty override from DC more difficult?
ALIPAC has been doing much more than e-mails, calls, and faxes and our messaging, strategies, and innovative plans have played a key role in this battle.
I understand that when you have an idea, you want to promote it and have it considered and that is great.
But please stop promoting or glorifying your ideas and positions in an antagonistic way that is derogatory towards me or the ALIPAC organization.
That is less likely to give you the results you desire and is unfair to ALIPAC and an inaccurate description of how we do business here.
W
SoCal.
I think you've underestimated William and ALIPAC's abilities.
I understand what you mean about the need for rallies and demonstrations. That takes more of a communty effort. If your could do that, it would really help.
But william has more direct ways for we the people to be hear more wide spread.
Even the president of La Raza is shaking in her boots because ALIPAC's actions are being seen instead of sitting still doing nothing while she tries to brainwash Washington DC.
William has countless videos of his actions. If you haven't seen them, I don't think your being fair about this.
But that's my opinion.
In Houston 2 police officers were murdered by Illegal aliens and numerous
other high profile crimes committed last year. The local news (and Alipac)
had extensive coverage of the stories. Some public outrage and response.
Now with the economy and job loss hitting home, Houstonians are waking up to the Illegal Alien issue as never before. When it hits you where you eat it gets your attention.
On the Alipac homepage is an article
TX: Study: Illegal immigrants' care costs state $677 million
At the sorce like at the Houston Chronicle are more then 900 comments
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6160505.html
There is a lot of anger and frustration building especially in sanctuary cities. Folks who are just now expressing their opinions on the issue are
coming out of the woodwork.
I would welcome any ideas on how to direct them to Alipac.
SoCal, I have always been one to "take to the streets" and protest. Do you know how foolish we look when we stage one and only a dozen people show up?
The most effective protest I personally attended only had two people involved. My hyperactive 4 year old and I sat in the local office of our representative until the bill was defeated. Nothing like a bored 4 year old in a small office to get a staffers undivided attention. It lead to numerous phone calls with her practically begging the rep. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Worried, Does the pay for people no longer there, mean retirees from the company or are you talking upper management?[/b][/quote]
Sorry for the delay, we had a death in the family that necessitated my return to VA. Anyway, at this point there are more retired assembly line "workers" being paid by GM than current employees. Thousands of retirees are drawing money, medical costs, etc. out of that company. Years ago they & their union put guns to the heads of execs & said," Pay us more than we are worth & more than you can afford forever or we will walk out". The execs crumpled. Now there is little or nothing left, the "workers" have already taken it all. Any bailout should include a total cancellation of ALL union deals & contracts or they should go under. It's time to halt the disasterous infection of unions in America.
Personally, William, SoCal, & others, I'd like Alipac help me form a new political party NOW. The Democrat Party has become Marxist, the Republican Party has become liberal & all the rest have huge amounts of baggage & are simply, all the rest. I have written up some ideas & how to promote new candidates for a new party. I took alot of heat from close Republican friends for refusing to vote for McBama because both candidates were the same. Ok, Osama Barak is a bit more destructive than McAmnesty but not much. The point is, we need a party of conservative patriotic Americans whose leaders won't run away crying when called biggotted, xenophobic, racist, Marxifobic, or whatever. We need tough leaders who will stand up for liberty, border agents, freedom of religion & all the other rights that "ARE ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR", unlike ALL other polititians in DC except Ron Paul. New party + new leaders = renewed freedom. Without a political party to enforce our interests, a movement goes nowhere.
One thing that can be done & which the Obama campaign did very well is take the truth to the people via grassroots involvement. Work up petitions with factual info. on policies & current pending legislation in direct language ordinary people can understand. Show how these practices & legislation will effect them personally. When people are made aware of how something will impact them, they tend to pay attention! You need to do this by bulk mail, or local distribution points at key locations (shopping malls, etc.). In more populated areas, you may rent a small storefront for distribution of petitions. The impact on one's family, resources, jobs & their children's future will be an attention getter. I hate to say it, but a lot of people out there are preoccupied with mindless leisure activities, such as stupid video games, reality TV, senseless computer involvement like My Space, etc. They haven't a clue as to what is going on right before their eyes. The "Man on the Street" interviews regarding this recent election showed that.
I am not certain Obama would know the truth if it bit him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ang
Other than that, I agree we need to spell it out for most of the sheeple who will not take the time or effort to find the truth on their own.
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Sorry for the delay, we had a death in the family that necessitated my return to VA. Anyway, at this point there are more retired assembly line "workers" being paid by GM than current employees. Thousands of retirees are drawing money, medical costs, etc. out of that company. Years ago they & their union put guns to the heads of execs & said," Pay us more than we are worth & more than you can afford forever or we will walk out". The execs crumpled. Now there is little or nothing left, the "workers" have already taken it all. Any bailout should include a total cancellation of ALL union deals & contracts or they should go under. It's time to halt the disasterous infection of unions in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyXD9
I was asking because i retired from the State (Maine) and I get retirement and healthcare. I'm assumming you are talking about people not in my situation.
I'm referring to all those union minions who get paid more than they are worth & strong-arm consumers &/or voters into exorbatant saleries & retirement packages that lead to our current economic troubles. The greedy b@atards who force entire industries to flee the state &/or country. The corrupt unions like the CA teachers union that devours 40% of the entire CA state budget but still can't graduate 5o% of students. These "schools" are turning out more students with psyche drug prescriptions than with diplomas!
Cayla99, I disagree with you. I would make the point that Osama Barak goes all out to keep from being bitten by the truth at all! In fact, He & his sycophantic press have kept the truth hidden well enough to to get a huge number of Cool Aid-drinking, mind-numbed, liberty-killing, self-hating, wage-stealing, business-busting, Marx-sucking, corruption-loving, Kennedy-kissing, profit-hating, income-redistributing, terrorist-coddling, ecology-worshipping, government teat-sucking, tax-raising, union-boosting, socialists to elect him. That's the problem withdemocratic type republics; we get the government we deserve, so we just have to live with it.
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Originally Posted by BobbyXD9
Touche'
Americans being murdered in Mexico, and murdered inside the U.S.A. by people from Mexico.
And shows like Wheel of Fortune keep right on giving prizes to Mexico?
Why?
No one is THAT disconnected to what's happening to Americas and the U.S.A. at the hands of Mexico!
There comes a time when a vacation to a hostile nation is not a good thing, and that time is much over due.
I was reviewing this today since this is one of the top stories ever published here at ALIPAC with over 56,000 reads in the main archives.
W